Tyshawn Taylor

[lab_warrior]

OK, thank god this thread turned into a nice discussion about "best MU PGs", because, seriously, WHO CARES about Taylor?!  He went somewhere else, stop whining and move on with your lives!!  Who knows how he would have been had he ended up here, he could have been a complete CANCER whining about minutes.  He certainly acted real maturely during the Crean fiasco. 
As for MU PGs...I wasn't around to see Meminger, but as for who I've seen:
1.  Diener  2.  DJ  3.  Tony Miller  4.  Hutchins  5.  Cordell Henry...  2458. Niv Berkowitz.

[MU B2002]

But you forgot Barone, 2457?  Did he play point?  I can't remember for sure.

[MUSF]

+1

I don't think GYMBAR reads what he types before he posts it... and if he does, I'm not sure he thinks first.

But he says it with such certainty. It must be true.

Just like when he said Jamil Wilson will commit to MU.

[Sir Lawrence]

Not even a contest. Dean "Our Dream, Their Nightmare" Meminger was the Warriors' best point guard, ever.

I agree.  I'd then put Tony Miller at #2 and Travis at #3.

[ecompt]

Dean was the greatest 6-0 post player I ever saw. Amazing leaping ability. But he wasn't a true point guard. If you think DJ has problems with his shot, you shiould have heard the groans in the Milwaukee Arena when Dean went up for his 18-footers. Nothing against Dean (he's probably #3 on my list), but Travis did erverything well.

[THEGYMBAR]

How about some love for Mandy Johnson? He might be one of the best defenders in school history. In addition, he might be one of the worst ball handlers in school history.

While only here a couple of years Sam Worthen was fun to watch. Might have been our tallest PG ever. Who can forget Allie McGuire? Played on maybe our best team ever.

[CTWarrior]

I arrived at MU for the 79-80 season, and my favorite PGs:

1.  Deiner
2.  Miller - Probably more problematic as a shooter than even James, but as the only true ball handler or player with real quickness on a sweet 16 team, I don't think his contributions can be over-rated.  That team would not have accomplished anything without him.
3.  James
3A.  Doc Rivers - when he was here there was less delineation between PG and SG as MU's guards were just guards, but Rivers handled the ball as much or more than his backcourt mates
4. Hutch
5. Henry
 
When you think about it, we've been blessed with some tremedous PGs over the years.  I didn't even include Sam Worthen who played a bit in the NBA and was on some people's first team All-American teams going in to his senior season.  

[Marquette65]

does the name Butch Lee ring a bell?  He has to be in the mix.

[cheebs09]

Marcus Jackson

[4everwarriors]

Dean was the greatest 6-0 post player I ever saw. Amazing leaping ability. But he wasn't a true point guard. If you think DJ has problems with his shot, you shiould have heard the groans in the Milwaukee Arena when Dean went up for his 18-footers. Nothing against Dean (he's probably #3 on my list), but Travis did erverything well.

How many years did Meminger play in the Association? DJ won't make a roster. Dean was the smartest basketball player with the ball in his hands. Have to disagree with you, Eric.

[THEGYMBAR]

Can still see the Dream with NIT championship trophy sitting on top of his head. He could flat out play.

[The Man in Gold]

1. Tackling Dummy   2. Travis Diener

[ecompt]

4ever, I wasn't comparing Dean to DJ; I was just saying as a true point guard Travis was (I think) the best MU has had. Dean had a decent pro career, including one Game 7 against the Celtics that stands out, and you're probably right in saying DJ doesm't have much of a shot at the pros. If I had to rank MU point guards I'd put Travis first, Butch second, Dean third, DJ fourth, Hutch or Cordell fifth). I've got Butch in there because he handled the ball much of the time in 77 and 78; I realize in the true point-guard sense Boylan was more of a point.   

[mviale]

Travis First - you are smoking crack. Add Tony Miller

[ecompt]

You're right about Miller. He's in there somewhere. But smoking crack about Travis? You are kidding, right? Check out the record book.

[RedWebster]

The record books? If that was the barometer, then DJ would be considered the greatest player in Marquette history.

[ecompt]

No, because DJ isn't going to finish ahead of Travis in some key categories. Travis is #2 all-time in scoring, I believe.

[MuMark]

DJ is going to finish ahead of Travis in

Points
Assists
Steals
Rebounds
He is also a much better defensive point guard

Travis was a better jump shooter, 3 point shooter and free throw shooter.

I guess it depends what you like. With the game on the line I'd rather the ball in Travis's hands because of his ability to shoot the ball but DJ impacts the entire game as much or more then Travis did.

[BrewCity83]

Don't forget about Lloyd Walton.

DJ is certainly in the top 5 since 1980, along with Worthen, Miller, Hutch and Diener.

If you go all-time, he may not be.

[ecompt]

DJ will finish ahead of Travis because of more games played. Travis missed the last eight games of his college career at a time when he was averaging 18-20 points and 6-7 assists a night. DJ is a much better defensive player but if you need a three, Travis was your man. Whatever. I'm glad they both brought credit to MU.

[Marquette65]

tonight==10 points   11 ast   lets see if any of our guys has 11 ast tonight