Oso planning to go pro
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I’d be worried if Lenny had me winning something. Glad to know I’m right where I should be.
The players told MLB today that they will play a season for as long as the owners wish but will not agree to less than prorated salary or expanded post season. Seems reasonable to me.
https://twitter.com/DanielDescalso/status/1271647651285487616?s=19
Not really. They are taking the top 2 things that are important to the owners off the table. If what they are looking for is a crapty 50 game season that just makes everyone mad, this is how to get it. Both sides have been completely stupid about this.
I love baseball, I miss baseball. But if my choice is no baseball or a 50 game season, it%u2019s not even close. No baseball (as bad as that would be) wins in a walk.
In 6 weeks, the NBA and NHL will be going and the NFL will be starting training camp. Baseball will be forgotten. That's what all of them (especially the owners) should be worried about.
Yeah. They are fighting over dollars now, and could all lose fortunes because of it. It is idiotic.
Both sides are willing to sacrifice this season to win the next CBA.
Don't give a chit 'bout boat deez entitled groups. Got bigga fish ta fry and baseball/sports is a small capillary feedin' da entire ocean, hey?
Nope. Players have no obligation to take a per game cut. And they shouldn’t. Why should they play for less than that?
They have no obligation, correct. But MLB has the power to implement a season of however many games they want, I believe as long as it is at least 50 games. The players have said that 30% of their salaries is not enough and they don't want that and won't negotiate on a per game pay cut. That will result in a 50 game season and players making 30% of their salaries. It is stupid. Neitgwr side is really negotiating in good faith ( but the players have tried at least, the owners haven't at all). With both sides essentially participating in boulwarism, nothing gets accomplished.
+1, Doc. No good guys vs bad guys. Just good old greedy self interest vs greedy self interest. People who can’t see that are blind partisans and/or fools.
I get that. I just don’t like the narratives I read suggesting the players are being greedy for not paying for less. Well protecting your self-interest is what negotiations are about right? Greedy is just in the eye of the beholder.
True. I understand the principle. But to my set of eyes someone living paycheck to paycheck negotiating with a business owner barely turning a profit looks different than a group of millionaires/multimillionaires arguing with a group of multimillionaires/billionaires about whether the former is willing to take a salary cut to help mitigate the latter’s losses due to a pandemic. However this one comes out the players and owners will be millionaires, multimillionaires and billionaires. And the ones who get screwed will be the fans.
I don't understand why the players are hell bent on the 100% prorating of their contracts. They would make more in 85% of 65 games than 100% of 50 games. And more in 85% of 81 games than 100% in 65 games. You'd think most players would be more interested in the bottom line they are making as opposed to their per game rate. Especially when so many people have had to take a % reduction of their rates this year. What they are looking at right now is a 50 game season with regular playoffs. Basically the worst possible outcome for both sides. Nice work guys. You negotiated a lose-lose deal.