Author Topic: Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers (Read 6140 times)

Hards Alumni · « **on:** February 06, 2011, 09:24:04 PM »

Feels great to say.

National Champs · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:29:46 PM »

I won't be flaccid for a while

Markusquette · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:53:33 PM »

Quote from: National Champs on February 06, 2011, 09:29:46 PM

I won't be flaccid for a while

that sums it up nicely

DJO's Pump Fake · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:55:50 PM »

Best franchise in sports brings home another championship!

That makes 13!

Go Pack Go!

augoman · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2011, 11:26:57 PM »

Awesome! In spite of all the injuries this season, they persevered. and the Lions can say they beat the superbowl champs!

wadesworld · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:33:17 AM »

And THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

(Vikings are even worse)

GGGG · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2011, 08:16:01 AM »

Quote from: wadesworld on February 07, 2011, 12:33:17 AM

(Vikings are even worse)

I think you'll find general CONSENSUS on that opinion.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2011, 09:13:05 AM »

Congrats to the Pack. That was a Patriot-esque type victory, plugging guys into the system and coming out on top. Matthews forced fumble really changed that game. No reason to think Pack can't be as good or better next season (hoping there is a next season).

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2011, 09:26:36 AM »

I hate the Packers but this is pretty cool... an actual belt.

MU B2002 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2011, 09:29:40 AM »

Quote from: MUDish on February 07, 2011, 09:13:05 AM

Matthews forced fumble really changed that game. \

That was huge, as the Steelers had all of the momentum. Weak play there by Mendenhall, as it seemed like there was not significant contact on the ball to knock it loose.

DJO's Pump Fake · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:18:35 AM »

I didn't breathe the entire second half, so worried about bush/lee combo in secondary

MU B2002 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:26:40 AM »

Did Big Ben have money on the green and gold yesterday? Horrible performance (IMHO), and hopefully that will end the nonsense I heard from the talking heads this week about him being an all-time top ten QB.

Passes were high, to the wrong spot, or forced into spots where they shouldn't have been thrown. And how do you not try and attack the GB secondary with the injury to Woodson??!

chren21 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2011, 11:01:47 AM »

When you think about how many guys were injured and what the team will look like next year, and the year after, etc., etc.,,.... SCARY.

wildbill sb · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2011, 11:09:05 AM »

Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on February 07, 2011, 10:18:35 AM

I didn't breathe the entire second half, so worried about bush/lee combo in secondary

So true, so true. Thirty very scary minutes.

mu-rara · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2011, 11:57:03 AM »

I think Ryan Pickett had a lot to do with the fumble by Mendenhall.

Plaque Lives Matter! · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2011, 12:49:00 PM »

I just plead for celebration at the packers victory, not the rest of the NFC north's expense.

shiloh26 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:50:00 PM »

Quote from: mu-rara on February 07, 2011, 11:57:03 AM

I think Ryan Pickett had a lot to do with the fumble by Mendenhall.

He definitely did, great play by Pickett as well. Clay is the new face of the defense, so it makes sense that he's getting more media publicity for making the play, but it was a great effort on both of their parts.

This one feels so good, if nothing but to finally put to bed the McCarthy/Thompson/Favre/Rodgers cluster*** that will no longer define this Packers team. They went out and were the better team, and Rodgers proved that he can perform at the highest level on the biggest stage. Really proud of the team today, especially with all the injuries.

Blackhat · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »

Helluva game. Extremely proud to be a Packer fan and proud of Packer nation and the fans as well. Most watched super bowl ever!!

Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers are a lethal combo...they'll take scrubs and coach em up to beat you.

Hope McCarthy is here for a long, long time....personally I'd be cool with giving him GM duties if it came down to that like Holmgren, though I don't think it will.

Blackhat · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2011, 05:24:08 PM »

Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on February 07, 2011, 10:18:35 AM

I didn't breathe the entire second half, so worried about bush/lee combo in secondary

Was with you....TT needs to find at least one experienced DB this offseason, cause when we get to Lee and Bush the secondary becomes sub par.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:18:14 PM »

Sorry Stone Cold, Head Coaches should never ever be GMs.

GOMU1104 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:21:29 PM »

McCarthy doesnt want to be a GM.

TT knows what the hell he is doing, why would you want someone else doing it?

The head coach/GM combo is a bad idea, period.

Blackhat · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:30:13 PM »

McCarthy is more valuable to this franchise than TT. He's a qb coach/o coordinator on par with Holmgren. You do whatever you can to keep the McCarthy and Capers duo in GB.

TT has drafted well of late, I'll give him props for that. But the way McCarthy and Capers utilized mediocre talent at many positions and coached them up to a Super Bowl victory is amazing. Keeping McCarthy is essential.

GOMU1104 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Stone Cold on February 07, 2011, 07:30:13 PM

McCarthy is more valuable to this franchise than TT. He's a qb coach/o coordinator on par with Holmgren. You do whatever you can to keep the McCarthy and Capers duo in GB.

TT has drafted well of late, I'll give him props for that. But the way McCarthy and Capers utilized mediocre talent at many positions and coached them up to a Super Bowl victory is amazing. Keeping McCarthy is essential.

Man, you dont know what you're talking about.

MU B2002 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:42:08 PM »

So... Those mediocre players that got plugged into the system, I am guessing it was probably TT that signed them.

Blackhat · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2011, 08:08:42 PM »

Quote from: MU B2002 on February 07, 2011, 07:42:08 PM

So... Those mediocre players that got plugged into the system, I am guessing it was probably TT that signed them.

not a popular opinion on TT I understand (although guys like Howard Green, Frank Zambo, Walden, etc. are in fact mediocre but Caper's scheme has utilized them well, imo). especially at this time but I still believe McCarthy (and Capers) and their coaching are the heart of this resurgence.

LON · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2011, 07:26:08 AM »

Regarding McCarthy, Capers, Thompson...it was a team effort, and it's fitting, because that's how GB won all year.

mu-rara · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2011, 08:46:41 AM »

Quote from: Stone Cold on February 07, 2011, 07:30:13 PM

McCarthy is more valuable to this franchise than TT. He's a qb coach/o coordinator on par with Holmgren. You do whatever you can to keep the McCarthy and Capers duo in GB.

TT has drafted well of late, I'll give him props for that. But the way McCarthy and Capers utilized mediocre talent at many positions and coached them up to a Super Bowl victory is amazing. Keeping McCarthy is essential.

You don't have the level of success the Packers had this year without both TT and MM. Look at the success Holmgren (FFW, the Fat F*&%ing Walrus) had without Wolf (none). Mike Sherman ?? Come on.

If I did have to pick one, I'd pick TT. How many coaches have succeeded without talent? How many mediocre coaches have succeeded because they did have talent. Thankfully, It seems that these guys understand their roles, and want to keep this thing going.

Canned Goods n Ammo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2011, 09:17:08 AM »

Quote from: mu-rara on February 08, 2011, 08:46:41 AM

You don't have the level of success the Packers had this year without both TT and MM. Look at the success Holmgren (FFW, the Fat F*&%ing Walrus) had without Wolf (none). Mike Sherman ?? Come on.

If I did have to pick one, I'd pick TT. How many coaches have succeeded without talent? How many mediocre coaches have succeeded because they did have talent. Thankfully, It seems that these guys understand their roles, and want to keep this thing going.

Didn't Holgren go to the superbowl in Seattle? And have several other good teams?

I wouldn't call that success "none".

Neverthless, separate coach/GM role is probably preferable. 2 heads are usually better than 1, and they can play good cop/bad cop when needed. However, they have to be on the same page, which can be challenging for some.

MUBurrow · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2011, 11:45:01 AM »

This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I think McCarthy is still only a mediocre coach. I definitely put him in the top 50%, but not as high up as 75%. When you look at the job TT did to get players in there despite being lambasted year after year for his drafting decisions and personnel (in)action, I think the depth he built and his refusal to dig deep into FA proved absolutely correct, often in the fact of conventional thinking. Further, Capers was a pretty successful head coach for awhile, and he showed why. He's one of the top 3-5 D-Coordinators in the league. Now I also think that McCarthy is a solid offensive mind, but I don't think that he overimpressively draws up schemes that make his players look more talented than they are or anything. He does a good job not getting in his own way, which is more than you can say for a lot of coaches, but I think he needs a lot of things to be going right around him as well.

mu-rara · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »

Quote from: 2002MUalum on February 08, 2011, 09:17:08 AM

Didn't Holgren go to the superbowl in Seattle? And have several other good teams?

I wouldn't call that success "none".

Neverthless, separate coach/GM role is probably preferable. 2 heads are usually better than 1, and they can play good cop/bad cop when needed. However, they have to be on the same page, which can be challenging for some.

He went to the SuperBowl in Seattle, but that is not the standard you are measured by after you've won one. He's been to three and lost two. He did not have a successful run in Seattle. His SuperBowl appearance saved his bacon out there. If he wasn't such an egomaniac, he'd have stayed in GB and won more.

wadesworld · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2011, 12:10:18 PM »

Quote from: MUBurrow on February 08, 2011, 11:45:01 AM

This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I think McCarthy is still only a mediocre coach. I definitely put him in the top 50%, but not as high up as 75%. When you look at the job TT did to get players in there despite being lambasted year after year for his drafting decisions and personnel (in)action, I think the depth he built and his refusal to dig deep into FA proved absolutely correct, often in the fact of conventional thinking. Further, Capers was a pretty successful head coach for awhile, and he showed why. He's one of the top 3-5 D-Coordinators in the league. Now I also think that McCarthy is a solid offensive mind, but I don't think that he overimpressively draws up schemes that make his players look more talented than they are or anything. He does a good job not getting in his own way, which is more than you can say for a lot of coaches, but I think he needs a lot of things to be going right around him as well.

I gave McCarthy a ton of crap this season, but to me the only problem he has is his playcalling. When we are in do-or-die situations, whether it's playing essentially an "elimination" game or being down 4-7 with the ball and a few minutes to go in the game, he calls very aggressively (because he has to) and the Packers dominate; however, when it's early in the season to the middle of the season he called, to me, way too conservative of games and that is why we lost the games to the Bears, Redskins, and Dolphins. If he calls games like he did in the last 6 games of our season for the entire season the Packers would go no worse than 12-4. Other than the playcalling early on I think McCarthy has done a really good job as the head coach.

As far as Thompson goes, the guy has done an incredible job. Not many people would make the decision to let a legend go like he did, and he clearly knew what he was doing. And to say that the players being plugged into the system is a sign that the coaches developed these players moreso than Thompson seeing talent that nobody else saw is just wrong. Guys like Howard Green were picked up mid-week and stepping in and playing that weekend. If our coaches can develop players that quickly...DAMN! No way...Thompson has picked up guys that nobody else would give a chance because he knows talent and hard work when he sees it. He has done an incredible job. Keep McCarthy as head coach and Thompson as GM.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2011, 01:54:11 PM »

As a Bears fan, I'd happily take Ted Thompson. That guy has done a hell of a job in my opinion. No GM will ever be perfect, but good GM's build rosters from the bottom to the top, and that's exactly what he's done, and ultimately it was the bottom half of the roster he built and the depth he created that probably won the Pack the Super Bowl.

I think McCarthy is an above average head coach, not great, but that said, it's hard to say (outside of Belichick, maybe Tomlin) who is a great head coach. I do think McCarthy game plans well, but his in game decisions are sometimes head scratching.

Canned Goods n Ammo · « **Reply #32 on:** February 08, 2011, 02:27:58 PM »

Quote from: mu-rara on February 08, 2011, 12:10:09 PM

He went to the SuperBowl in Seattle, but that is not the standard you are measured by after you've won one. He's been to three and lost two. He did not have a successful run in Seattle. His SuperBowl appearance saved his bacon out there. If he wasn't such an egomaniac, he'd have stayed in GB and won more.

Eh. We'll agree to disagree.

Seattle has never really been a good franchise, and they weren't very good went he got there.

He made them very good with a few nice playoff runs and a SB appearance.

I'd call that a successful run. Like I said, we'll agree to disagree.

GGGG · « **Reply #33 on:** February 08, 2011, 03:05:16 PM »

Holmgren was a good coach...not a very good GM.

The history of the Coach/GM holding the same position is so crappy, I'm surprised that anyone suggests it any longer. About the only one that really does this anymore is New England.

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2011, 03:25:20 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 08, 2011, 03:05:16 PM

Holmgren was a good coach...not a very good GM.

The history of the Coach/GM holding the same position is so crappy, I'm surprised that anyone suggests it any longer. About the only one that really does this anymore is New England.

The reason that some suggest it is ego, a quality most head coaches generally possess in large quantities. The reason that some owners still fall for it is the chance, however slim, of hitting a home run with a guy like Bellichek.

LON · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2011, 03:30:04 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 08, 2011, 03:05:16 PM

Holmgren was a good coach...not a very good GM.

The history of the Coach/GM holding the same position is so crappy, I'm surprised that anyone suggests it any longer. About the only one that really does this anymore is New England.

And Seattle.

Holmgren and now Carroll.

mu-rara · « **Reply #36 on:** February 09, 2011, 10:12:28 AM »

Quote from: 2002MUalum on February 08, 2011, 02:27:58 PM

Eh. We'll agree to disagree.

Seattle has never really been a good franchise, and they weren't very good went he got there.

He made them very good with a few nice playoff runs and a SB appearance.

I'd call that a successful run. Like I said, we'll agree to disagree.

I'd have to agree that Holmgren has been the most successful coach the Seahawks have had.

I will also admit to a high degree of personal dislike for the FFW. He spent Super Bowl 32 campaigning for a new job, and took the Broncos lightly. The Packers should be 5-0 in SuperBowls. Wolf giving Sherman the HC and GM jobs was a big F U to Holmgren.

GOMU1104 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 09, 2011, 10:15:04 AM »

Quote from: LancesOtherNut on February 08, 2011, 03:30:04 PM

And Seattle.

Holmgren and now Carroll.

The GM in Seattle is John Schneider...who actually worked in Green Bay for a long time before taking the Seattle job.

wadesworld · « **Reply #38 on:** February 09, 2011, 10:53:20 AM »

Would like to hear Jay Beezy's take on the Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers. Sorry you don't know the feeling, man.

LON · « **Reply #39 on:** February 09, 2011, 11:11:36 AM »

Quote from: GOMU1104 on February 09, 2011, 10:15:04 AM

The GM in Seattle is John Schneider...who actually worked in Green Bay for a long time before taking the Seattle job.

Thanks for the correction, Carroll does have a job title that's more than just Head Coach though, correct?

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