Oso planning to go pro
I am in no way questioning the experts and I have no reason to doubt Dr Fauci but we also need to understand both the source of that reference(in terms of possible accuracy) and intent of using that number. This is literally a scare number(10x) it is meant to drive a call to action and get people to pay attention as opposed to using the "real" number of 1% mortality rate. 1% sounds small and in the grand scheme of virology it is small but that doesn't drive action. So people are going to cling to 10x but context is important
Yes, but he is an expert, understands what he was saying and still chose to say it. That says something to me.
Did you see him say it and the context around it or did you read it through the media filter?
Great idea. Let's have everyone spend the entire day in completely packed bars instead.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/03/07/during-spanish-flu-milwaukee-closed-churches-schools-not-saloons/4979405002/In 1918-19, Milwaukee was among the most successful cities in minimizing the impact of the Spanish flu, though not all of the restrictions it imposed were popular. Clergy weren't pleased that in October 1918 the churches were closed, while saloons were not. Although saloons were allowed to remain open as usual for dining, "patrons stopping by for a drink had to consume it quickly and then leave," Navarro said.
So the Spanish Flu created the original bar crawl?
Just got reminded of the Spanish O’Donnells, talk about a pandemic inducing event.
No fans for March Madness. Family only. Should be “interesting” viewing.
As far as Coronavirus, what we know is that it is highly contagious (long incubation period without symptoms and remains on surfaces for a while) but the trade off is that generally the symptoms are mild as a trade off for the long incubation period. What we don't yet know is how much it can/will mutate....if it mutates a lot it will become seasonal, if it doesn't mutate much or at all we can eradicate it like Small Pox, etc. It's kill rate is higher than we are "comfortable" with but that is largely because it is a new virus that we haven't figured out the interventions on and it is exhibiting an tendency to "swarm" creating a lot of carriers and those carriers with underlying conditions become critical which flood the system resulting if likely higher than what will become the standard kill rate.
so when is it going to be officially "safe" to resume living our lives? when a proven vaccine comes out? so will this be like the small pox vaccine or whatever that was, sugar cube in a small paper cup? back in the 60's? i remember the lines into the high school gymnasium. what about the anti-vaccine crowd?
If you haven't been terrified in the past few minutes, try this link:https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-11/italy-doctors-coronavirus-covid-19-quarantine-milan-health/Highlights:"There are a lot of young people in our Intensive Care Units (ICUs) - our youngest is a 38-year-old who had had no comorbidities (underlying health problems)."They've told us that starting from now we'll have to choose who to intubate - priority will go to the young or those without comorbidities."At Niguarda, the other big hospital in Milan, they are not intubating anyone over 60, which is really, really young."She added: "This virus is so infectious that the only way to avoid a 'massacre' is to have the least number possible getting infected over the longest possible timescale."Right now, if we get 10,000 people in Italy in need of ventilators - when we only have 3,000 in the country - 7,000 people will die."Rome right now is like where Milan was 10 days ago. In 10 days there has been an incredible escalation."Lombardy, which has the best healthcare in the country, is collapsing, so I don’t dare to think what would happen in less efficient regions."But the very young are crazy carriers."A child with no symptoms will go to visit its grandparents, and basically kill them. So it’s essential to avoid contact between them"."All the resuscitation bays are full. They’re having to triage, deciding who to intubate and who to let die."He added: "You have no idea how many young people are here, I mean even 20-year-olds with no underlying conditions, in need of assisted breathing because of horrible pneumonia."There aren’t the resources to screen doctors for Covid-19 anymore - they’re just telling them 'stay home if you have symptoms, otherwise come to work'."The World Health Organisation ranks Italy second in the world for health care provision, with only France rated higher. The UK is 18th.And yet even a system as good as this is teetering on the brink.