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Title: Nike, Hey?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 20, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Benny B on February 20, 2019, 10:17:02 PM
So, so, so, so listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But you, I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now, I keep it on and on
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: wadesworld on February 20, 2019, 10:53:20 PM
Shouldn't have been so quick to take that Nike Duke money, hey?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: 🏀 on February 21, 2019, 05:36:38 AM
So, so, so, so listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But you, I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now, I keep it on and on

Interesting theory.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 21, 2019, 08:13:19 AM
Wearing those shoes that Marquette wore in the 90's that kept blowing out in the O'Neil era?  Was it LA Gear or something like that?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:18:42 AM
Wearing those shoes that Marquette wore in the 90's that kept blowing out in the O'Neil era?  Was it LA Gear or something like that?

Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear.    I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.   
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Benny B on February 21, 2019, 10:23:37 AM
Interesting theory.

Not necessarily a theory... but first thing that popped into my head.

Consider:

1) Zion - as amazing as he is - wasn't doing anything extraordinary when his shoe disintegrated.  He's not the first 285 pounder who's ever stopped on a dime laterally.

2) Even if he was, weight shouldn't be a deciding factor.  These shoes aren't being designed by JPL engineers or manufactured to Boeing tolerances.... with so much variation in the construction, they must be designed to withstand at least 2x or 3x the weight of an average player; in other words, if the design spec was 284 lbs, you'd have players busting their shoes every game due to the tolerances alone.

3) That being said: if Nike does have a JPL engineer and a Boeing operator on the construction line, you'd better damn well believe that Zion's shoes were under their supervision.  They say there's no such thing as bad publicity... well, I'm not sure that applies to basketball shoes.  Right or wrong, if Zion ends up being done for the season, every D-I player sporting a pair of Nikes is going to lose a bit of confidence in their equipment.

4) How often does this happen?  Personally, I've seen busted laces, busted seams, detached soles at the toe or heel, popped bladders (remember the "Pumps"), but I've never seen a shoe fail like this.  For this to happen to the biggest player in D-I hoops, in the biggest game of the regular season (and possibly the biggest college game he'll play), with the biggest ticket prices, on a stage including the biggest of wigs like Pres. Obama.... that's too much of a coincidence of epic proportions for anyone to dismiss the possibility of nefarious UNC fans (or LA Gear execs).


Now, I won't go this far, but if Miller and Pitino are involved somehow, this is going to make for a great movie someday.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 10:31:50 AM
The Lebron is a little different than the Paul George that Zion was wearing. 
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: reinko on February 21, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
PG sneakers are traaaaassssh.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: jesmu84 on February 21, 2019, 12:38:58 PM
Not necessarily a theory... but first thing that popped into my head.

Consider:

1) Zion - as amazing as he is - wasn't doing anything extraordinary when his shoe disintegrated.  He's not the first 285 pounder who's ever stopped on a dime laterally.

2) Even if he was, weight shouldn't be a deciding factor.  These shoes aren't being designed by JPL engineers or manufactured to Boeing tolerances.... with so much variation in the construction, they must be designed to withstand at least 2x or 3x the weight of an average player; in other words, if the design spec was 284 lbs, you'd have players busting their shoes every game due to the tolerances alone.

3) That being said: if Nike does have a JPL engineer and a Boeing operator on the construction line, you'd better damn well believe that Zion's shoes were under their supervision.  They say there's no such thing as bad publicity... well, I'm not sure that applies to basketball shoes.  Right or wrong, if Zion ends up being done for the season, every D-I player sporting a pair of Nikes is going to lose a bit of confidence in their equipment.

4) How often does this happen?  Personally, I've seen busted laces, busted seams, detached soles at the toe or heel, popped bladders (remember the "Pumps"), but I've never seen a shoe fail like this.  For this to happen to the biggest player in D-I hoops, in the biggest game of the regular season (and possibly the biggest college game he'll play), with the biggest ticket prices, on a stage including the biggest of wigs like Pres. Obama.... that's too much of a coincidence of epic proportions for anyone to dismiss the possibility of nefarious UNC fans (or LA Gear execs).


Now, I won't go this far, but if Miller and Pitino are involved somehow, this is going to make for a great movie someday.

Where was Tim donaghy last night?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: wadesworld on February 21, 2019, 12:43:42 PM
PG sneakers are traaaaassssh.

Have never worn the 2 or 2.5, but his original ones are the best basketball shoes I've ever worn.  Light, low enough, but also enough support.  Very comfortable.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Benny B on February 21, 2019, 01:20:42 PM
Have never worn the 2 or 2.5, but his original ones are the best basketball shoes I've ever worn.  Light, low enough, but also enough support.  Very comfortable.


Yes, that may be well and true.  But could you dunk in them?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: wadesworld on February 21, 2019, 01:23:32 PM

Yes, that may be well and true.  But could you dunk in them?

I walked into the gym last night and one of the side hoops was set to 8 feet.  I dunked on that, so to answer your question...heck yeah I can!
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Cheeks on February 21, 2019, 01:42:46 PM
Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?

Make Sneakers Great Again


And yes, he is going to sign a contract with Zion for a gazillion dollars, or if not last night will allow him to get even more from someone else....either way, last night's scare just mean millions more in his bank account.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: GB Warrior on February 21, 2019, 02:05:57 PM
Don't be a bunch of Darren Rovells

https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175 (https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175)
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: cheebs09 on February 21, 2019, 05:37:16 PM
Don't be a bunch of Darren Rovells

https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175 (https://deadspin.com/darren-rovell-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-the-shoe-1832774175)

He’s the worst. Nerd.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: NYWarrior on February 21, 2019, 06:18:47 PM
Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear.    I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.

Dukiet - Pony
KO - Nike then LAGear back to Nike
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 21, 2019, 08:39:25 PM
Figurin' Zion's knot gonna sign a shoo contract wit Knight's brand. Wear has LA Gear and New Balance gone, hey?

   not to worry-LaVar will fill the vacuum-buy one, get one
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Cheeks on February 22, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
Charles Barkley is a national treasure
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: jesmu84 on February 22, 2019, 09:13:44 AM
Charles Barkley is a national treasure

What'd he say about Nike or Zion?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Cheeks on February 22, 2019, 09:22:34 AM
What'd he say about Nike or Zion?

He had opinions on a lot of things last night.  They had to stop the show a few times people were laughing so hard, especially the camera guys and behind the scenes folks.  Opinions on Zion, college basketball, Chicago, Jussie, etc.  People were in tears. 

"America, do not commit crimes with checks....get cash man"  OMG, funny.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/zion-williamson-injury-duke-charles-barkley/amp

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1098809760407785472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1098809760407785472&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2Fcharles-barkley-jokes-jussie-smollett-liam-neeson-065029409.html



Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: tower912 on February 22, 2019, 10:00:33 AM
Is it true he had worn the same shoes for every game this season?   If so, the blowout makes more sense.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 22, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
A little off topic, but Kevin Harlan was absolutely on fire last night too.  The game was pretty poor in the third quarter but he was keeping it interesting.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/bucks-celtics-kevin-harlan-beer
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: JWags85 on February 22, 2019, 10:06:11 AM
Inside the NBA is the best sports related show on TV.  Just unfiltered hilarity and insight.  It was amazing then went up another notch when Shaq joined.  He unleashed Barkley even more.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: wadesworld on February 22, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
A little off topic, but Kevin Harlan was absolutely on fire last night too.  The game was pretty poor in the third quarter but he was keeping it interesting.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/bucks-celtics-kevin-harlan-beer

The funniest part of his call last night was there were about 5-6 straight possessions of quick, early, open 3 point looks for both teams and all 5-6 of them bricked, and the only word either Harlan or Reggie could get in was basically saying "(enter player's name) takes an open 3...No!" and finally after a rebound Reggie just said, "NOOOO!" and started laughing.  That was one awful basketball game until the last 2 minutes or so when both teams hit some big shots.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Benny B on February 22, 2019, 03:05:21 PM
Is it true he had worn the same shoes for every game this season?   If so, the blowout makes more sense.

Even so, the odds that it happens 30 seconds into the game.... mmm mmmm mmmmm.
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Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 22, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
Sew, maybee UNC payd off a Dook manager ta damage da shoo just ta get Zion outta da game, hey?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU82 on February 22, 2019, 10:33:00 PM
Nike stock up 1% today, nearly double the S&P 500's gain. Stock is only about $1 lower than its all-time high.

It gained after the Kaepernick ad, too.

Great companies are resilient.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Jon on February 23, 2019, 08:22:06 AM
Mentioned elsewhere, but yes, it was LA Gear.    I think MU was a Pony school for a bit while I was there.

Pony. Those were the spikes we wore for our high school baseball team.

Wait, did I say high school?? I'm sorry. I meant to say our "elite east coast prep school." You know , like Phillips Exeter and Andover and what not. Great weekend parties and what have you.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU82 on February 23, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
Sew, maybee UNC payd off a Dook manager ta damage da shoo just ta get Zion outta da game, hey?

Tom Brady did it!
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 24, 2019, 04:57:20 PM
Inside the NBA is the best sports related show on TV.  Just unfiltered hilarity and insight.  It was amazing then went up another notch when Shaq joined.  He unleashed Barkley even more.

Love Inside the NBA, but I actually find Shaq more annoying than funny.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 09:41:38 AM
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.

Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."

Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.

Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Cheeks on March 01, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.

Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."

Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.

Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.

Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....

Your outrage about this has led you to buy zero products from Nike or any other company that operates similarly, correct?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Cheeks on March 01, 2019, 02:02:08 PM
Your outrage about this has led you to buy zero products from Nike or any other company that operates similarly, correct?

Nope, because I’m not outraged by it (wage part) for the same reason you continue to watch NFL games, watch NCAA games, even though railing on them.

Do I want kids working?  No.  How much is that happening now?  I have no idea, but from reports it seems to have been stopped for the most part.  Exceptions should be dealt with and violators punished. On the wage front, some of these jobs are paying more in that country then most.  Market rates.

Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Jockey on March 01, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
Nike stock hit new all-time high today.

Stuff like Zion's shoe and Kaepernick ad are what seasoned investors call "noise."

Noise makes stock prices go up or down short-term. More long-term, fundamentals rule the day.

Oh, and I agree with Chitown about Shaq. His almost incoherent mumblings add very little to the TNT show IMHO. I do like Chuck, Kenny and Ernie, though.

There is little doubt that Zion will be will Nike for a long time. He will make them a lot of money. Obviously, he will make himself a lot, as well. The blowout will only increase the haul.
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: Pakuni on March 01, 2019, 04:20:39 PM
Those little kids and sweatshops are just cranking out the products these days....I hope they are getting $15 an hour....

Cheeks .... here's an issue upon which we agree (though your claims of Nike employing child labor are vastly overstated). Regardless, it seems we both believe that it's wrong for big Western corporations like Nike to exploit low-skilled labor in emerging and poor nations for the sake of profit.
What do you think should be done about this?
Title: Re: Nike, Hey?
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2019, 04:52:42 PM
Nope, because I’m not outraged by it (wage part) for the same reason you continue to watch NFL games, watch NCAA games, even though railing on them.


Ah. Just standard goalpost-shifting to an issue that wasn't discussed and had nothing to do with the conversation. Got it.

I enjoy NFL games, and I'd welcome you showing examples of me being "outraged" by the NFL.