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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by rocket surgeon on Today at 09:30:18 AM »
How was Charlottesville crushed, exactly?

Last I checked, the occupant of the White House hasn't called the Columbia protestors very fine people.

if you are trying to quote previous potus, get it right!

  "very fine people on both sides."

so tell me how this is much different from-

“I condemn the antisemitic protests,” the president told reporters en route back from a speech he had delivered to commemorate Earth Day. “That’s why I have set up a program to deal with that. I also condemn those who don’t understand what’s going on with the Palestinians.”
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Welcome Jack Anderson!
« Last post by Viper on Today at 09:28:47 AM »
When is the last time MU has had a preferred walk-on?  I’m only familiar with this term because the Badgers seem to do it quite often; I believe Carter Gilmore was a preferred walk-on before being given a scholarship after his freshman season (could be totally wrong about that, though).

So, I guess my understanding of a “preferred” walk-on is that a scholarship isn’t out of the question if there’s one open and the team has no one else to use it on.  But I admittedly have a very limited understanding.
in football, preferred usually means a player is in line for a scholly. Whether that means after a season, two seasons…probably a tbd scenario…but is an avenue for a program to pick-up talent that might develop. I’m thinking Badger AA safety Jim Leonhard was initially a preferred walk-on.
Not that I obsess over the Badgers.
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by 4everwarriors on Today at 09:28:09 AM »
Never was a fan of BO, hey?
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by Not A Serious Person on Today at 09:27:49 AM »
All hate crime prosecutions must have a basis in some other criminal act. So, you can't talk about a hate crime without also talking about the underlying criminal offense. Hate crime charges are, for all intents, an enhancement of the underlying crime.
In this case, this guy was prosecuted for a hate crime and sentenced to life in prison because he killed someone. The motivation (the hate) cannot be separated from the underlying act (the killing), even for the sake of a silly argument in which one attempts to compare murder to saying something offensive.

Federal hate crimes require that there be some type of violent act. People aren't prosecuted for hate crimes based on engaging in a peaceful protest.

https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/learn-about-hate-crimes

"The "crime" in hate crime is often a violent crime, such as assault, murder, arson, vandalism, or threats to commit such crimes. It may also cover conspiring or asking another person to commit such crimes, even if the crime was never carried out.

Under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, people cannot be prosecuted simply for their beliefs. People may be offended or upset about beliefs that are untrue or based upon false stereotypes, but it is not a crime to express offensive beliefs, or to join with others who share such views. However, the First Amendment does not protect against committing a crime, just because the conduct is rooted in philosophical beliefs."

They have assaulted hundreds of Jewish students. They have committed battery against dozens of Jewish Students.

At least everyone protesting at UCLA and the Ivies can be charged under these standards
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by Pakuni on Today at 09:27:45 AM »
So, was this wrong? And if it was not, should we expect several hundred such charges for all those involved in these protests who are effectively doing the same thing as "Unite the Right?"

And if any of your students protest, should they be subject to Federal Hate crime charges as well?

(To be clear, this is about being charged with a Federal Hate crime, not Trespassing, Manslaughter or Vehicular Homicide)

Ohio Man Sentenced to Life in Prison for Federal Hate Crimes Related to August 2017 Car Attack at Rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ohio-man-sentenced-life-prison-federal-hate-crimes-related-august-2017-car-attack-rally

All hate crime prosecutions must have a basis in some other criminal act. So, you can't talk about a hate crime without also talking about the underlying criminal offense. Hate crime charges are, for all intents, an enhancement of the underlying crime.
In this case, this guy was prosecuted for a hate crime and sentenced to life in prison because he killed someone. The motivation (the hate) cannot be separated from the underlying act (the killing), even for the sake of a silly argument in which one attempts to compare murder to saying something offensive.
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by Uncle Rico on Today at 09:26:35 AM »
Wrong, could not be any worst than what we're stuck with for now, aina?

So, you don’t believe in law and order?  Interesting.  I’d probably get rid of the police scanner then.
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Federal hate crimes require that there be some type of violent act. People aren't prosecuted for hate crimes based on engaging in a peaceful protest.

https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/learn-about-hate-crimes

"The "crime" in hate crime is often a violent crime, such as assault, murder, arson, vandalism, or threats to commit such crimes. It may also cover conspiring or asking another person to commit such crimes, even if the crime was never carried out.

Under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, people cannot be prosecuted simply for their beliefs. People may be offended or upset about beliefs that are untrue or based upon false stereotypes, but it is not a crime to express offensive beliefs, or to join with others who share such views. However, the First Amendment does not protect against committing a crime, just because the conduct is rooted in philosophical beliefs."
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Last post by TAMU, Knower of Ball on Today at 09:11:02 AM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Another update to the tracker. Uconn and Creighton both solidified themselves as contenders. Seton Hall is down to 7 scholarship players. Xavier picks up their 4th transfer who was all confrence second team from a mid major conference last season. And Marquette gets a transfer!
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by Not A Serious Person on Today at 09:09:04 AM »
I should have said that protests on campus can only include current students and employees of the college. So we wouldn't allow the KKK to hold a rally here if it included non-College people.

But if we have a KKK student group, and it was limited to those students and staff, they could do that sure.

So, was this wrong? And if it was not, should we expect several hundred such charges for all those involved in these protests who are effectively doing the same thing as "Unite the Right?"

And if any of your students protest, should they be subject to Federal Hate crime charges as well?

(To be clear, this is about being charged with a Federal Hate crime, not Trespassing, Manslaughter or Vehicular Homicide)

Ohio Man Sentenced to Life in Prison for Federal Hate Crimes Related to August 2017 Car Attack at Rally in Charlottesville, Virginia
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ohio-man-sentenced-life-prison-federal-hate-crimes-related-august-2017-car-attack-rally

“Hatred and bigotry have no place in our nation. Violent actions inspired by such warped thinking are a disgrace to our people and our values, and the Department of Justice will not tolerate such depraved acts,” said Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband. “Prosecuting hate crimes and acts of domestic terrorism continues to be a top priority for the Department of Justice. Anyone who commits a crime motivated by hatred for the race, color, religion, national origin or other protected trait of any person should be on notice: the United States government will use its enormous power to bring perpetrators to justice, and we will continue to do so for as long as it takes to rid our nation of these vile and monstrous crimes.”

“On August 12, 2017, this defendant committed a hate-inspired act of domestic terrorism that killed 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injured over 30 peaceful protesters,” U.S. Attorney Thomas T. Cullen stated. “We believe that his life sentence furthers the Department of Justice’s substantial interest in prosecuting hate crimes and protecting the civil rights of all Americans. We are grateful for the dedication and hard work of the FBI and the Virginia State Police in investigating this matter and bringing the defendant to justice.”

“Hate crimes are not just an attack on the victim: they are also meant to threaten and intimidate an entire community,” said Special Agent in Charge David Archey of the FBI’s Richmond Division. “This is also a case of domestic terrorism, and we must send a message that terrorism and hatred-inspired violence have no place in our communities. The FBI will continue to work with our law enforcement partners to ensure Virginia’s citizens do not fall victim to violence because of hateful ideologies or intolerance of others. The FBI is grateful to the Office of the United States Attorney, the Virginia State Police, the Charlottesville Police Department, and to all the members of the public who assisted in this investigation.”
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The Superbar / Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Last post by 4everwarriors on Today at 09:06:22 AM »
Wrong, could not be any worst than what we're stuck with for now, aina?
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