2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[MuggsyB]

Neither of these squads pass the eye test as tournament teams. 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Neither of these squads pass the eye test as tournament teams.

Agreed.

[MuggsyB]

Realistically could our head to head result vs Baylor work in our favor if we're the last 3 seed or first 4 seed?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Kansas State had three awful losses against Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Butler.

Only real bad Marquette loss is against Bucky

[brewcity77]

Kansas State, currently projected as one of the four 3 seeds ahead of Marquette on bracket matrix, down 13 on the road against the fighting Porter Mosers.
They are the one squad I sort of expect to fall off the top 4 seed lines and fade late in the season.

Would be another good result for Marquette on the night if it holds.

Another 3 seed on bracket matrix will be at FiServ tomorrow facing our warrior golden eagles.

Tang was also the front runner for NCOY before this current 2-5 stretch. With TJO also fading, I'm guessing that race is down to Painter and Shaka.

[GoldenEagles03]

Tang was also the front runner for NCOY before this current 2-5 stretch. With TJO also fading, I'm guessing that race is down to Painter and Shaka.

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

[DoctorV]

IF Marquette wins a BE title, or even just wins tomorrow night and next week at Creighton, plenty of people would be mentioning Shaka as National CoY.

Purdue just lost 2/3, have tough roadies at Maryland and UW, host Illinois and Indiana.
A fade there isn’t out of the realm of possibility either since they are due for a bit of a bounce back to reality.

5-0 finish by Marquette and a stumble by Purdue and it could happen.
Maybe even a 4-1 finish by MU along with a run to the BE final

[PGsHeroes32]

Tang was also the front runner for NCOY before this current 2-5 stretch. With TJO also fading, I'm guessing that race is down to Painter and Shaka.

Oates is in it.

[DoctorV]

Good call in Nate Oats

[wadesworld]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

First article when you Google NCOY candidates.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35615612/my-21-coach-year-candidates-2022-23

Second article when you Google NCOY candidates.

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2023/02/03/college-basketball-coach-of-year-tang-painter-smart

Third article when you Google NCOY candidates. From 3 weeks ago.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketballs-10-midseason-contenders-for-National-Coach-of-the-Year-203697357/Amp/

Fourth article when you Google NCOY candidates.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2023/02/07/ncaa-basketball-top-12-candidates-for-2022-23-coach-of-the-year/amp/11/

Fifth article is from 2/1/22, so I stopped there. Literally every one mentions Shaka.

But the media hates MU so nobody mentions him.

[PGsHeroes32]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

Shaka is mentioned as the clear BE front runner and has been for like a month haha

[MU82]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

I absolutely have seen and heard Shaka in the BECOY conversation; he's usually 1st or 2nd in most mentions (Miller being the other). Several announcers have thrown it out there, including Raftery and (IIRC) Butch. And here's a Sports Illustrated piece (published Feb. 3) that puts him No. 3 on the national COY list: https://www.si.com/college/2023/02/03/college-basketball-coach-of-year-tang-painter-smart

Picked ninth out of 11 teams in the Big East’s preseason poll, Smart has Marquette at the top of the conference and in the top 15 nationally in just his second season in Milwaukee. What’s more, he has done it despite losing star forward Justin Lewis late to the NBA draft last spring.

Smart originally made a name for himself in coaching with his “Havoc” defense at VCU. While Marquette’s defense is excellent at forcing turnovers, what has really caused this year’s team to take off has been the nation’s top-ranked offense on KenPom. The Golden Eagles are a joy to watch because of how they share the ball, with an elite point guard in Tyler Kolek and one of the nation’s best passing bigs in Oso Ighodaro. Smart’s player-development prowess has been on full display with this group after he bet big on internal improvement from the likes of Kolek, Ighodaro and forward Olivier-Maxence Prosper, all of whom have made huge strides from last season. If Marquette wins the Big East, Smart has as good a case as anyone for this award.

After we win tomorrow night vs. X and then go on to win the Big East, Shaka will emerge as the BECOY frontrunner IMHO. But I tend to agree with those that he's a long shot nationally. Painter, for one, has already gotten so much national pub, all of it deserved.

[brewcity77]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

Then you've yet to pay attention to any conversations about BECOY or NCOY.

[fjm]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

🤨
Field of 68 mentions him weekly as COY candidate.

[GoldenEagles03]

🤨
Field of 68 mentions him weekly as COY candidate.

Saw something just today with them picking between Painter, Oates, Randy Bennett, and Shaka.

Jeff Goodman started his list with Bill Self and then they had to tell him to start over because he wasn't an option in their little game.

I believe all 3 settled with

1. Painter
2. Bennett
3. Oates
4. Shaka

I'll take it, but he better at least be the BE COY.

[wisblue]

Neither of these squads pass the eye test as tournament teams.

Michigan isn't even close to the bubble so why would you expect them to look like a tournament team?

It's hard to tell if Howard's biggest problem is coaching or roster construction. Between transfers and players leaving for pro ball they weren't left with a lot of returning talent from last year.

[Uncle Rico]

Michigan isn't even close to the bubble so why would you expect them to look like a tournament team?

It's hard to tell if Howard's biggest problem is coaching or roster construction. Between transfers and players leaving for pro ball they weren't left with a lot of returning talent from last year.

Roster construction.  They took a big swing with some kids in the ‘21 class.  Two went pro, one transferred.  They brought in transfer to play point and he blew out his knee. 

Last night would concern me, however.  Giving up 13 offensive boards to Wisconsin is hard to do and they don’t communicate on defense at all

[Shark]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/court-report-how-marquette-became-one-of-college-basketballs-best-teams-despite-shunning-transfer-portal/

Good Norlander coverage

[StillAWarrior]

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/court-report-how-marquette-became-one-of-college-basketballs-best-teams-despite-shunning-transfer-portal/

Good Norlander coverage

From the Norlander coverage:  "Here's how Shaka Smart's worked his way to almost certainly winning Big East Coach of the Year."

[mugrad_89]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/court-report-how-marquette-became-one-of-college-basketballs-best-teams-despite-shunning-transfer-portal/

Good Norlander coverage

That is really good.

[GoldenEagles03]

From the Norlander coverage:  "Here's how Shaka Smart's worked his way to almost certainly winning Big East Coach of the Year."

He should be a BE COY lock, but he won't win the National COY.  People love Painter too much.

[brewcity77]

He should be a BE COY lock, but he won't win the National COY.  People love Painter too much.

Considering just 12 hours ago you said he wasn't even being mentioned for BECOY, I imagine by this time tomorrow you'll have him as the NCOY lock too.

Shaka won't win it.

I've yet to see anyone outside of Marquette mention him as BE COY yet alone the country.

[Its DJOver]

GE03 flip flopping?  I for one am SHOCKED.

[GoldenEagles03]

Considering just 12 hours ago you said he wasn't even being mentioned for BECOY, I imagine by this time tomorrow you'll have him as the NCOY lock too.

Huh?

I said I didn't see anyone talking about it.  I never said he wasn't going to.  What's your deal?

[GoldenEagles03]

GE03 flip flopping?  I for one am SHOCKED.

How is that flip flopping? Please explain?

I said I haven't seen anyone talking about him for either award, I didn't say anything about him not winning BE COY.  He should be a lock.

I'll await a response.