2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[lawdog77]

It originates from medieval Spain, where the Spanish nobility claimed to have no Moorish, Jewish, or any other ancestry. Sangre azul is Spanish for blue blood. The Spanish Blue Bloods considered themselves pure Goths. Their lighter complexion allowed the blueness in their veins to show up more prominently than darker skinned people. The term grew over time to describe all European royalty.

Thank you, Mr. Clavin

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

It originates from medieval Spain, where the Spanish nobility claimed to have no Moorish, Jewish, or any other ancestry. Sangre azul is Spanish for blue blood. The Spanish Blue Bloods considered themselves pure Goths. Their lighter complexion allowed the blueness in their veins to show up more prominently than darker skinned people. The term grew over time to describe all European royalty.

Sorry, the card says "Moops."

[Pakuni]

Yikes

The police report cites three offenses for the three players: one count of false imprisonment, one count of harassment and two counts of sexual contact. The victim told police that the incidents had been occurring since July or August of 2022.
In the witness report, the victim states that on Feb. 6, 2023, three members of the basketball team – whose names were redacted in the police report released to KTSM – allegedly, “held him down with him facing down, removed his clothing exposing his buttocks and began to ‘slap his ass.’ He also went on to state that they also touched his scrotum.”
The victim also alleges in the report that the inappropriate physical and sexual touching by his teammates had been ongoing issues inside the locker room at both the Pan American Center and on road trips.

https://www.ktsm.com/news/false-imprisonment-sexual-contact-among-hazing-allegations-against-new-mexico-state-mens-basketball-players/

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wow. That’s more than just hazing.  Brutal.

[panda]

Yikes

The police report cites three offenses for the three players: one count of false imprisonment, one count of harassment and two counts of sexual contact. The victim told police that the incidents had been occurring since July or August of 2022.
In the witness report, the victim states that on Feb. 6, 2023, three members of the basketball team – whose names were redacted in the police report released to KTSM – allegedly, “held him down with him facing down, removed his clothing exposing his buttocks and began to ‘slap his ass.’ He also went on to state that they also touched his scrotum.”
The victim also alleges in the report that the inappropriate physical and sexual touching by his teammates had been ongoing issues inside the locker room at both the Pan American Center and on road trips.

https://www.ktsm.com/news/false-imprisonment-sexual-contact-among-hazing-allegations-against-new-mexico-state-mens-basketball-players/

Sounds like a Tuesday night in O’Donnell

[Dickthedribbler]

Sounds like a Tuesday night in O’Donnell

Now that's funny.

[We R Final Four]

Wow. That’s more than just hazing.  Brutal.

Sounds exactly like hazing. Brutal? No.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Sounds exactly like hazing. Brutal? No.

They allegedly sexually assaulted him. You don’t think that’s brutal?

[We R Final Four]

They allegedly sexually assaulted him. You don’t think that’s brutal?

It was terrible that they allegedly touched his scrotum.

[Tyler COLEk]

Sounds like a Tuesday night in O’Donnell

😂 😂 😂

[panda]

It was terrible that they allegedly touched his scrotum.

My ex wife and I would still be together if she “hazed” me..

[PointWarrior]

Don’t talk about a blue blood like that:

https://twitter.com/thefieldof68/status/1624842267478335488?s=46&t=ZLwC0iwJsZmJVDRTZAeDvQ

Well unnatural carnal knowledge, now the Walmart badgers will call them “blue bloods” in addition to the “Harvard of the the Midwest”.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sounds like a Tuesday night in O’Donnell

My ex wife and I would still be together if she “hazed” me..

I know you are trying to be funny. But it's that attitude (not you personally but a societal attitude) that allows for this kind of thing to continue and discourages men from coming forward about it. What's being described is a sexual assault.

It was terrible that they allegedly touched his scrotum.

That they allegedly forcibly held him down against his will, forcibly removed his clothing, and slapped him and touched him without his consent. This isn't two guys trying to sack tap each other.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Sounds like a Tuesday night in O’Donnell

Crickets? OD gowne, hey?

You guys are old.

[Hards Alumni]

I know you are trying to be funny. But it's that attitude (not you personally but a societal attitude) that allows for this kind of thing to continue and discourages men from coming forward about it. What's being described is a sexual assault.

That they allegedly forcibly held him down against his will, forcibly removed his clothing, and slapped him and touched him without his consent. This isn't two guys trying to sack tap each other.

100%

[We R Final Four]

I know you are trying to be funny. But it's that attitude (not you personally but a societal attitude) that allows for this kind of thing to continue and discourages men from coming forward about it. What's being described is a sexual assault.

That they allegedly forcibly held him down against his will, forcibly removed his clothing, and slapped him and touched him without his consent. This isn't two guys trying to sack tap each other.

What they did was wrong, not brutal.
Tens of thousands or women are BRUTALLY raped every year. Lets not lump this incident with those.

[JakeBarnes]

What they did was wrong, not brutal.
Tens of thousands or women are BRUTALLY raped every year. Lets not lump this incident with those.

Both are unacceptable. Not sure why you're dying on this hill of whataboutism.

[We R Final Four]

Both are unacceptable. Not sure why you're dying on this hill of whataboutism.

I guess in comes down to one’s interpretation of “brutal”.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What they did was wrong, not brutal.
Tens of thousands or women are BRUTALLY raped every year. Lets not lump this incident with those.

I think brutal is a reasonable adjective for multiple men hold someone down against their will, removing their clothing against their will, and touching and slapping their private body parts against their will. If you want to fight over the definition of brutal, that's a weird thing to get argumentative about. Because intentionally or unintentionally, you seem to be trying to minimize this.

Sexual assault is not a contest. It doesn't matter which one is worse.

I guess in comes down to one’s interpretation of “brutal”.

Does it? Or does it come down to the  sex of the victim? If multiple men held down a woman against her will, removed her clothing against her will, and touched and slapped her private body parts against her will, would you have an issue with someone describing that as brutal?

[We R Final Four]

I think brutal is a reasonable adjective for multiple men hold someone down against their will, removing their clothing against their will, and touching and slapping their private body parts against their will. If you want to fight over the definition of brutal, that's a weird thing to get argumentative about. Because intentionally or unintentionally, you seem to be trying to minimize this.

Sexual assault is not a contest. It doesn't matter which one is worse.

Not getting argumentative at all, but keep at it.
Having someone close to the family brutally raped……..this hits home.
What these men did was wrong and terrible.  If you want details of a brutal rape PM me and Ill give you the details. This is different.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not getting argumentative at all, but keep at it.
Having someone close to the family brutally raped……..this hits home.
What these men did was wrong and terrible.  If you want details of a brutal rape PM me and Ill give you the details. This is different.

Would you say the same if the victim was female?

[We R Final Four]

Would you say the same if the victim was female?

In our case…..she was. The brutality in which she was raped is horrific.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

To be fair, there are multiple contexts in which one can use the word "brutal." There is a brutally violent rape that your family member unfortunately endured. But there are also phrases like "this winter was brutal," or "the end of that game was brutal."

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In our case…..she was. The brutality in which she was raped is horrific.

Since you're not answering, I'm going to assume that the answer is no and that the victim being male is at least part of the reason why you objected to use of the word brutal.

I'm sorry for what your family member went through. I truly am. I spend all day listening to survivors and alleged perpetrators of sexual assault. The reality is, they are all brutal to those who lived them and those who love them. Someone else describing a sexual assault that was less violent than the one your loved one endured as brutal does nothing to minimize or make light of their situation. But saying another sexual assault wasn't bad enough to be described a certain way does minimize and make light of another situation.

[We R Final Four]

All sexual assaults are terrible and wrong.
Some are more brutal than others.
Ill leave it at that.