MUScoop
MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GGGG on January 30, 2010, 12:46:20 PM
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I mean, I hope he's OK and all, but if his contributions down the stretch were going to be so important, why isn't he in the game?
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I agree, especially with the pathetic defensive effort by acker and cubillian. Why bring the kid back if he isnt going to play?
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cubes getting hurt defensively....
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Buzz thinks that the two midgets are the answer!
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He must be aching. I can't believe Buzz thinks Cubes is a better option.
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This game should seriously be under investigation. 3 of Lazars 5 fouls were absolute garbage. Especially with all the contact on the other end, horrible.
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complete and utter home job, but UConn is an awful matchup for a team this small
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definitely home cooking. especially with the ref talking to him after #4
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Why do we always complain about the officiating?
Horrible officiating down the stretch.
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I actually thought it was worse in the first half. They called EVERYTHING on Uconns side of the court and aboslutely nothing on MU's side. Which is why it is amazing we had the lead at half and were even up 13 at one point. 3-pt shot the great equalizer in college hoops.
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I could see where the refs were leaning in the first half. Definitely got a beef there.
However, good teams find a way to win anyway. Glad we did it so I don't have to whine.
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I mean, I hope he's OK and all, but if his contributions down the stretch were going to be so important, why isn't he in the game?
Very interesting that EWill caught a few minutes and JC didn't see the floor.
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not really. needed a tall guy out there. he loooked non-terrible as well
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People need to stop hating on Cubiallan. I guarantee you Cadougan didn't play because Buzz didn't feel him being 80-85% would be sufficient to stop the absolute speed of Walker and Dyson. There aren't 2 quicker guards in college basketball, and Cadougan's strength probably is not quickness. If Cubi was getting abused, which he was to an extent (but alot of players get abused by Dyson and Walker) - Cadougan would have been abused much more.
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People need to stop hating on Cubiallan. I guarantee you Cadougan didn't play because Buzz didn't feel him being 80-85% would be sufficient to stop the absolute speed of Walker and Dyson. There aren't 2 quicker guards in college basketball, and Cadougan's strength probably is not quickness. If Cubi was getting abused, which he was to an extent (but alot of players get abused by Dyson and Walker) - Cadougan would have been abused much more.
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Why rush him back right now against quick guards for him to lose confidence in the things he does well?
Junior WILL contribute down the stretch. "Down the Stretch" is not 2 games after his return from a potential season ender. When his game speed/practice speed and endurance increases, his effectiveness will increase and so will his PT.
I thought Cubes was ok and hit a few big shots, they won the game so it turned out ok.
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i was wondering which idiot would bring up the complaint of why was Junior not in there, despite the fact that he is at 80%
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i was wondering which idiot would bring up the complaint of why was Junior not in there, despite the fact that he is at 80%
Well I guess I'm the "idiot" then.
Sorry, I guess when Buzz said that they would need him at some point, and that we were playing a close game against a tough team, that this is the situation in which we would see him play. No biggie...it obviously worked out.
Just for once though, you could stop being a db.
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Junior would have struggled to cover Dyson and Walker today as mentioned above. Probably good to have him build confidence against some other players.
His return, though, has lit a fire under Acker's butt to start contributing more so that he can keep his minutes. Having competition in practice like that is huge for the team. Next year all of the guards are going to do that to each other. Vander Blue coming into a place where he is not the best athlete on the team will definately push him.
Had junior played today, he would have could have found some time at the 4 spot with Acker at the 1, Cubillan at the 2, Buycks at the 3, and Jimmy at the 5. He wouldnt have had to guard Walker or Dyson.
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Still waiting, then, for the 1 or 2 ballgames he's going to win for us this year.
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Still waiting, then, for the 1 or 2 ballgames he's going to win for us this year.
God, what do some people expect?? Him to come in after a ruptured achilles and immediatly be a star?? It is hard to adjust from HS ball to Big East ball as it is, and this kid has 4 months of rust to burn off..and get over the injury. It isn't gonna happen overnight. Buzz said as much in his original quote..said by March Junior could help them win 1-2 games. That doesn't mean with him making buzzer beaters and putting up huge stats..but rather offering more depth and some decent play, and the ability to body up the physical point guards in the league (not the speedsters like Walker and Dyson)
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Well I guess I'm the "idiot" then.
Sorry, I guess when Buzz said that they would need him at some point, and that we were playing a close game against a tough team, that this is the situation in which we would see him play. No biggie...it obviously worked out.
Just for once though, you could stop being a db.
Funny, in a roundabout way, Mr. Hayward called Buzz an idiot. LOL
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Still waiting, then, for the 1 or 2 ballgames he's going to win for us this year.
If any of the guards don't compete in practice or play hard, they can now lose their spots since Buzz has another option. I don't think anyone on MU goes out there and says "today I'm only giving 80%" but when they know their playing time is secure they might ease up in practice. Buzz also can get a 5 on 5. Him coming back is huge even if he is not dishing out 10 assists/game yet.
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Buzz said from the outset: "Can Junior help us in January, probably not. Can Junior help us in February, probably. Can Junior help us in March, probably."
Junior's level of play will get better and faster with each additional practice and game. Right now he is still just getting back, Buzz deemed him not ready to stay in front of Dyson and Walker today. That is fine, let him come along at the right pace while in the meantime Acker and Cubllan are playing great.
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I mean, I hope he's OK and all, but if his contributions down the stretch were going to be so important, why isn't he in the game?
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Buzz said from the outset: "Can Junior help us in January, probably not. Can Junior help us in February, probably. Can Junior help us in March, probably."
Junior's level of play will get better and faster with each additional practice and game. Right now he is still just getting back, Buzz deemed him not ready to stay in front of Dyson and Walker today. That is fine, let him come along at the right pace while in the meantime Acker and Cubllan are playing great.
+1 - Welcome to MuScoop. Look forward to more of your posts/insights.
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Thought I'd bring this back up to the top, just for fun. Remember no whining ;D
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Put me in the minority, but I think this is a perfect situation for Junior. He already got some game experience, so the butterflies are gone (for the most part), and now is getting the chance to get in game shape, keep practicing, and catch up physically. If he can help us for the BET and NCAA/NIT tournament at this point, that's the best-case scenario, and I'm alright with him seeing limited minutes for another couple games if that's what Buzz thinks needs to happen. As long as he's getting some playing time in 2 weeks or so, that's fine.
Big win tonight, and let's keep them coming! I'd be curious to see what our record is in games with a week or more to prepare. I feel like we usually come out with a fire under us, but maybe that's just selective memory.
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I will re-state others whom I agree with. JC came to MU with a need to work on his defense. He has not been able to work on this....AND his injury directly affects his lateral quickness. One thing that is clear to me from limited Buzz exposure, is he gets as much minutes as he can from his horses. JC is obviously not there yet.
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I will re-state others whom I agree with. JC came to MU with a need to work on his defense. He has not been able to work on this....AND his injury directly affects his lateral quickness. One thing that is clear to me from limited Buzz exposure, is he gets as much minutes as he can from his horses. JC is obviously not there yet.
Agreed. Question remains, however, why not save the season (or highly suggest to Junior that he save the season) if he is not there yet? If he eventually gets up to speed in practice, then you begin to play him in actuall games...
Too late now, hopefully the fella helps us in the last 7 games of the season, so that maybe he can get more PT in the postseason
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The main reason I was hoping JC would take a redshirt is because Buzz plays a short bench and he needs time to get up to speed. The thing is.....Junior is a basketball player.....he wants to play.....and he is confident. I admire that. His time will come.
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I don't get what Buzz is doing here. If the guy is ready to play and contribute, burn the redshirt. If the guy needs more practice, keep the redshirt on.
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I don't get what Buzz is doing here. If the guy is ready to play and contribute, burn the redshirt. If the guy needs more practice, keep the redshirt on.
What does Junior an his family want?
That's the only thing that matters. It's selfish of us to demand to know/ask why the red shirt was removed.
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I don't get what Buzz is doing here. If the guy is ready to play and contribute, burn the redshirt. If the guy needs more practice, keep the redshirt on.
You assume that Buzz is doing something...you assume wrong. The decision is and always has been Junior's. If the kid doesn't want to redshirt, forcing him to do so is a terrible idea.
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You assume that Buzz is doing something...you assume wrong. The decision is and always has been Junior's. If the kid doesn't want to redshirt, forcing him to do so is a terrible idea.
+1 Same situation with Trevor. If the kid wants to play, it's the kid's decision. If you start getting into situations where the coach decides redshirts, you have transfer mania going on.
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kids that thought they were going to come in and start arent usually the redshirting type anyway. assuming a kid is going to be here five years is a heck of a commitment, and understandably more than the player is usually willing to make. the thought process is usually that the belated senior year might be better off playing European pro or D-league ball or something anyway.
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+1 Same situation with Trevor. If the kid wants to play, it's the kid's decision. If you start getting into situations where the coach decides redshirts, you have transfer mania going on.
Not really the same situation as Trevor.
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Care to elaborate?
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Not really the same situation as Trevor.
You're right, not the exact same situation as Trevor was likely to transfer. My point was, the kid didn't want to redshirt and he took the redshirt off. Junior didn't want to redshirt and the redshirt is gone.
It should be the kid's decision, not the coach. In that vein, similar situation.
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We do not really know if Cadougan plans on staying. I see DJO, Buyckes and Blue playing ahead of Cadougan next year. You also have two other incoming freshmen at guard. From what I seen so far from Cadougan he is the best passer on the team. He would be good on a team that wants the point guard to control the game. That does not seem to be Buzz's style. He likes his guards to move the ball around quickly instead of the point guard contoling the ball. Also, I know Cadougan is still recovering from his injury, but I am not sure he has the quickness to play Buzz's style of defense.