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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Coleman on March 11, 2020, 09:41:50 AM
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-I have a 2 month old (who is healthy, thank God), after a very difficult delivery/recovery for my wife
-We are selling our city condo and under contract on a house in the burbs. This seems to be going well so far.
-This past weekend, my wife was bit by a dog. It was the neighbor's (who we have been friendly with) dog and was late on its vaccinations, and is now under quarantine for 10 days to make sure theres no rabies (trying not to worry about this too much, was 2 months late on vaccine and it is a domestic dog afterall). She is ok, but needed stitches for some deep puncture wounds.
-Same old job stresses
-Coronavirus stuff. Not so much worried about myself, but my high risk parents.
This has all led to a lot of anxiety, insomnia, etc. This week, I took the step of scheduling time with a therapist. I wanted to put this out there to remove any stigma. Take care of yourself guys.
That is all. End of my PSA
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Oh, I forgot, MU's slide hasn't helped either :o
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Good for you for taking care of yourself and for putting that out there to the Scoop world.
Life can be hard and heavy at times. Using the resources available to you is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Coleman
Thanks for sharing and the sound advice. Hope all goes well with all going on in your life. We are living a crazy time in history at the moment and praying for the best.
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After my twins were born (this is ten years ago), I went through male post partum depression, it's rare in men, and I thought I was just tired/stressed from the changes in life. After a year, I went and saw my doctor and then a therapist, and got medicated and the therapy helped. My anxiety got under control, and it was one of the best decisions I ever made to seek help.
Seeking help and getting treatment is the best thing to do, zero stigma around taking care of one's self. Good job by you.
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Thanks for sharing, Coleman.
Men tend to not take care of themselves regarding these issues. We need to and it's great you took this step.
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Thanks for coming forward. The world would be a better place if everyone went to therapy. I go.
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Thanks for posting. People should seek professional help and treatment for illness. Any illness. It really would be wonderful if there was no more stigma attached to seeking help for anxiety, depression or any other mental health issue than there is for seeking treatment for cancer, broken bones or any other physical issue.
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Well played, Coleman.
If it's of any consolation, one thing you do not need to worry about: drywall.
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I think the key is not just removing the stigma but educating what mental health issues feel like and that they can manifest at any point and it's not necessarily about how "tough" you are
I'll use myself as an example. I've always been easy go lucky, tough stuff doesn't bother me, eternal optimist type. Then right around the time we found out my wife was pregnant with our second I suffered my first ever panic attack(ultimately ended up having at least a half a dozen of them) and I had no idea what to do with it. Further that panic attack "gave" me anxiety where I was constantly internally monitoring myself to see if another attack was coming and the like. There are all sorts of factors that led to that moment in time my mental health taking a hit but the total stress wasn't more than anything I've had in the past, just the wrong time and place and it manifested, but I didn't know at the time that mental health could "work that way"
Worse than the attacks was the anxiety, it almost created this fog that I couldn't see past, because part of my brain was constantly working on the monitoring of myself. I was use to burying frustrations or ignoring discomfort but suddenly I couldn't do that. The good/bad part was that other than my wife no one could even tell, I just powered through hoping it would resolve itself and things would go back to "normal". Well it didn't and after about 6 months of internal hell I sought out a counselor, and I can't even say what explicitly helped but after about 3 months I got to a good place, I still have feelings of anxiety (no explicit explanation, I could be watching TV and just feel anxious) from time to time but it is extremely manageable and I haven't had a panic attack in almost a year.
But the key was I had no idea and we don't really talk about mental health in terms of what it is and what it can feel like so you know. Hell, my own father ended up revealing to me that part of why he was medically grounded from flight status was because he started having panic attacks and even at one point had a bit of a Xanax dependency in treating it. I had no idea until I opened up to him about what I was going through. Definitely changes my perspective about what I talk to my kids about and what I talk to others about. I've always generally been a keep the negative stuff to myself person and I definitely don't lead with "hi I'm mu03eng, and I suffer from anxiety sometimes" but I am much more open about it if it comes up(like here) because I think we need to normalize and contextualize the experience for others. It was amazing some of the conversations I've had with veteran buddies who have some form of PTSD While our "source" of issue is very different having that common experience allows some really good conversation. I think if people were generally more conversant in mental health regardless of experience we'd be in a better place as a society.
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Cheers, Coleman.
It can be a long road. Hang in there.
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Coleman - good for you for getting help, and coming forward here.
I see a therapist, and would be happy to chat sometime. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk to someone who has been (and still is) there....
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-I have a 2 month old (who is healthy, thank God), after a very difficult delivery/recovery for my wife
-We are selling our city condo and under contract on a house in the burbs. This seems to be going well so far.
-This past weekend, my wife was bit by a dog. It was the neighbor's (who we have been friendly with) dog and was late on its vaccinations, and is now under quarantine for 10 days to make sure theres no rabies (trying not to worry about this too much, was 2 months late on vaccine and it is a domestic dog afterall). She is ok, but needed stitches for some deep puncture wounds.
-Same old job stresses
-Coronavirus stuff. Not so much worried about myself, but my high risk parents.
This has all led to a lot of anxiety, insomnia, etc. This week, I took the step of scheduling time with a therapist. I wanted to put this out there to remove any stigma. Take care of yourself guys.
That is all. End of my PSA
Thanks for sharing Coleman. I’m hoping/praying for the best for you and your family.
Not to take away from your story, but I have my first kid on the way in less then a month and she’s going to have some medical problems. I don’t think I ever really realized what stress was until hearing my daughter may not be able to walk.
There’s no amount of money, items, knowledge, etc that can help when you realize you cannot control someone else’s health, it’s really a helpless feeling.
Just know that I truly will be thinking of you, and although you don’t know me, please feel free to reach out anytime and I’ll help in anyway I can. Even if it’s just listening, I’m more then happy to help. Friends seem harder to come by as one ages, and I’m in the camp that believes you can always use friends in life.
-J
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Bad_reporter
Good luck with your soon to be daughter. We will be saying our family prayers with your daughter in mind.
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Thanks for the support everyone. I know my troubles are no worse than what anyone has to deal with (and mine pale in comparison to what some other members like Dish and Bad Reporter have gone through). I just think it is a healthy thing for people to be able to talk about!
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Thanks for sharing Coleman. I’m hoping/praying for the best for you and your family.
Not to take away from your story, but I have my first kid on the way in less then a month and she’s going to have some medical problems. I don’t think I ever really realized what stress was until hearing my daughter may not be able to walk.
There’s no amount of money, items, knowledge, etc that can help when you realize you cannot control someone else’s health, it’s really a helpless feeling.
Just know that I truly will be thinking of you, and although you don’t know me, please feel free to reach out anytime and I’ll help in anyway I can. Even if it’s just listening, I’m more then happy to help. Friends seem harder to come by as one ages, and I’m in the camp that believes you can always use friends in life.
-J
Good luck with everything involved in the birth of your first child. Hope you get as good of news as possible as the time approaches.
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Thanks for the support everyone. I know my troubles are no worse than what anyone has to deal with (and mine pale in comparison to what some other members like Dish and Bad Reporter have gone through). I just think it is a healthy thing for people to be able to talk about!
It's good to talk about, we (as a society, and other's have said well here) should talk about this stuff much more. It's important, and as Goose said, this is a CRAZY time and world right now, which has to absolutely add to your anxiety. Hang in there, sounds like you're taking the right steps, and just talking about it helps.
Virtual pat on the back from me to you. Hopefully in a few months (or weeks) you'll look back and feel pride in getting the help. Cheers to everyone on here, even with the fights here, there's really, really good people on this message board.
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Thanks for the support everyone. I know my troubles are no worse than what anyone has to deal with (and mine pale in comparison to what some other members like Dish and Bad Reporter have gone through). I just think it is a healthy thing for people to be able to talk about!
Your issues/problems are just as important as anybody’s. It takes a big person to bring this type of conversation up in a forum where many don’t see eye to eye. Thank you for doing that, and my offer always stands.
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Goose & wades
Thanks for the wishes, I appreciate it.
Wades, although we may not agree with each other’s opinions/facts, however you want to put it, I wish no ill will on anyone. Whether that’s you, WithoutBias, etc. I wish for good health, and prosperity for everyone in the Marquette family, and I’m thankful for everyone here.
Thank you all, and let me know if I can ever help in anyway.
(Wades, those brewer tickets are still available for you, I hope you take me up on the offer sometime :) )
We are.
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We are big mental health advocates in our family. I've seen a lot in my time.
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Lots of courageous Scoopers out there - proud of each and every one of you. Meeting mental health issues openly and honestly is a hard thing - I admire you all.
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Lots of courageous Scoopers out there - proud of each and every one of you. Meeting mental health issues openly and honestly is a hard thing - I admire you all.
Going to hospitals, psych wards and funerals is much more difficult, ya know?
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Going to hospitals, psych wards and funerals is much more difficult, ya know?
Amen to that, Ziggy.
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Bad_reporter,
Sorry to hear about your difficult news. As I offered to Coleman - if you want to talk to someone else who understands depression, anxiety, and the loss of control, send me a PM. My issues are very different from yours and Coleman’s, but they have taught me a lot about being humble and how to live with life’s curve balls. I have lots of work left to do, but hopefully still something to offer from one human being to another.
Best,
Goooo
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Goooo
Gotta admit, when I see your full name, I read it with a long "O" sound as in "Go Marquette!" When you include only the first part, I read it...well...differently.
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Gotta admit, when I see your full name, I read it with a long "O" sound as in "Go Marquette!" When you include only the first part, I read it...well...differently.
Never even thought about it, but I see what you mean.
GooooMarquette
;)
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coleman-wishing you all the best!
it takes a strong person to admit he/she is weak. good on you to seek out the type of help you need rather than trying to "self-help". you will come out of this a stronger, better person for you first, allowing you to continue to be a good person, husband and father. one minute, one hour, one day at a time. tamu had the message at the bottom of his posts that says it all-prayers coming your way man!
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Thanks for sharing Coleman. I’m hoping/praying for the best for you and your family.
Not to take away from your story, but I have my first kid on the way in less then a month and she’s going to have some medical problems. I don’t think I ever really realized what stress was until hearing my daughter may not be able to walk.
There’s no amount of money, items, knowledge, etc that can help when you realize you cannot control someone else’s health, it’s really a helpless feeling.
Just know that I truly will be thinking of you, and although you don’t know me, please feel free to reach out anytime and I’ll help in anyway I can. Even if it’s just listening, I’m more then happy to help. Friends seem harder to come by as one ages, and I’m in the camp that believes you can always use friends in life.
-J
wow, the cancelation of everything has given me some time to review stuff-just saw this BR. let us know if you need any help. as contentious as scoop can sometimes become, it can also be a place where we can put our differences aside and come together as you and coleman have shown here. it's threads like these that make us forget some of the "wars" being waged on the other threads and somehow give scoop some legitimate value.
keep us up to date BR-you know where to find us
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rocket
Totally agree. I personally have received unbelievable compassion, advice and support from fellow scoopers over the years. Everyone jumps on Cheeks, but he is one of a kind when it comes to being supportive. The original four MS gang has been there many times for me, and many of my foes on Scoop have as well. We all have each other’s back on here.
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Never even thought about it, but I see what you mean.
GooooMarquette
;)
And here I was thinking all along that Goooom was Alexis’s stage name or something.
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rocket
Totally agree. I personally have received unbelievable compassion, advice and support from fellow scoopers over the years. Everyone jumps on Cheeks, but he is one of a kind when it comes to being supportive. The original four MS gang has been there many times for me, and many of my foes on Scoop have as well. We all have each other’s back on here.
What has cheeks actually done to support you?
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What has cheeks actually done to support you?
you don't know cheeks-he is actually a really good guy off the board. he actually makes me chuckle with his postings. smart guy. sometimes i think he's just having fun. many times as we've messaged, the first thing he asks is how my wife and dad are as he knows the background. he's confided in me regarding some really tough times he has gone thru as well. i understand many here only know him for his postings, but behind all that is another great MU warrior
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rocket is right, he’s actually a decent guy. Just not as an online persona.
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rocket is right, he’s actually a decent guy. Just not as an online persona.
You’ve met in real life?
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Keith
I feel zero need to share examples of Chico’s kindness with you. Seriously, was your question needed? Why the fxxk would you feel the need to question my comment? Difficult times in fellow scoopers lives, difficult times in the world and you want to know why I said Chico’s has provided me support.
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Keith
I feel zero need to share examples of Chico’s kindness with you. Seriously, was your question needed? Why the fxxk would you feel the need to question my comment? Difficult times in fellow scoopers lives, difficult times in the world and you want to know why I said Chico’s has provided me support.
Just curious, strange that my question would cause an angry reply. I happen to think being kind on a message board to strangers doesn't make up for treating people like garbage in real life.
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Just curious, strange that my question would cause an angry reply. I happen to think being kind on a message board to strangers doesn't make up for treating people like garbage in real life.
Huh?
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Huh?
Roger, Roger!
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That’s what some people do online.
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That’s what some people do online.
context and semantics my man. your question came off as why the he!! would anyone even like this guy? and besides, you asked so we told you
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So here's our mental health improvement plan:
Virtual dinners with another couple. You each cook yourself dinner, glass of wine, and fire up Skype. Chat.
It might be stupid, but .. it's better than turning into axe murderers from the isolation.
(Also, fyi, Ace Hardware is out of axes.)
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So here's our mental health improvement plan:
Virtual dinners with another couple. You each cook yourself dinner, glass of wine, and fire up Skype. Chat.
It might be stupid, but .. it's better than turning into axe murderers from the isolation.
(Also, fyi, Ace Hardware is out of axes.)
Why you giving dinner recommendations when we didn’t axe you for them?
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Maybe I’m being overly positive here as an unintended consequence of all this, but maybe people will come out of this as better communicators and nicer to each other?
I’ve called my parents every day since Wednesday to check in on them (they are both 70 and otherwise fine). Typically maybe I text them a few times a week, maybe call once. I went through my phone this weekend and texted people I hadn’t communicated with in a long time to see how they’re doing.
I’m by no means trying to self pay myself on the back, but rather trying to say that in the wake of everything slowing down, I’ve found it easier to focus on communication more.
Now a week from now after being held up inside with my wife and three kids, I’ll probably be singing a different tune.
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I’ve called my parents every day since Wednesday to check in on them (they are both 70 and otherwise fine). Typically maybe I text them a few times a week, maybe call once. I went through my phone this weekend and texted people I hadn’t communicated with in a long time to see how they’re doing.
Unfortunately my interactions with my folks have only increased my anxiety. They're being idiots about this.
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Unfortunately my interactions with my folks have only increased my anxiety. They're being idiots about this.
My inlaws are too. Both in their 70s with high risk health concerns.
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My inlaws are too. Both in their 70s with high risk health concerns.
My in-laws are in their late 60s with high risk health issues too.
Mother-in-law was volunteering on playground duty for recess at my niece's school as recent as Thursday.
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I was doing the pharmacy run for my mom yesterday and will be doing the grocery run for her sometime this week.
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I just cancelled a Board committee meeting for a local museum where there was a request for people to respond to the sender if “comfortable” meeting in person.
People well over 60 unanimously ‘replying to all’ saying they want to meet.
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My in-laws are in their late 60s with high risk health issues too.
Mother-in-law was volunteering on playground duty for recess at my niece's school as recent as Thursday.
In-laws just flew in yesterday. They were supposed to come two weeks from now for the birth of our daughter April 2, but came earlier.
They’re now living with us for the next 1.5 months minimum. 1 night so far, and I’m losing it already..
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In-laws just flew in yesterday. They were supposed to come two weeks from now for the birth of our daughter April 2, but came earlier.
They’re now living with us for the next 1.5 months minimum. 1 night so far, and I’m losing it already..
Leave your copy of Hustler in the guest bathroom, just to show them who's house it really is.
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In-laws just flew in yesterday. They were supposed to come two weeks from now for the birth of our daughter April 2, but came earlier.
They’re now living with us for the next 1.5 months minimum. 1 night so far, and I’m losing it already..
Buckle up it’s only going to get more challenging with a crying baby in the house.
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Guidance you can feel free to ignore, but make sure you establish with your in-laws that it is your baby and you and your spouse will be figuring out how it all works on your own. Seen lots of bad times where in-laws take over or get too pushy with their opinions.
Good luck and god speed
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In-laws just flew in yesterday. They were supposed to come two weeks from now for the birth of our daughter April 2, but came earlier.
They’re now living with us for the next 1.5 months minimum. 1 night so far, and I’m losing it already..
And we thought a quarantine would be rough?? Prayers added for not only baby, but for cooler heads at the reporter household. Nothing a good soft roll of tp can’t solve, Ain’er?
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Guidance you can feel free to ignore, but make sure you establish with your in-laws that it is your baby and you and your spouse will be figuring out how it all works on your own. Seen lots of bad times where in-laws take over or get too pushy with their opinions.
Good luck and god speed
And don't be shy about asking them to leave if things get too contentious.
Glow and I had no nearby relatives and took care of both of our newborns on our own. It's doable, and in many cases, preferable. I can't imagine anything worse than dealing with a screaming baby and post-partum hormones with other people constantly second-guessing everything you do.
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And don't be shy about asking them to leave if things get too contentious.
Glow and I had no nearby relatives and took care of both of our newborns on our own. It's doable, and in many cases, preferable. I can't imagine anything worse than dealing a screaming baby and post-partum hormones with other people constantly second-guessing everything you do.
And it can be very bad advice.
First time my parents came up to watch #NoRedforOwen after an hour I literally said "Are you kidding me, how did I survive to adulthood?"
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And it can be very bad advice.
First time my parents came up to watch #NoRedforOwen after an hour I literally said "Are you kidding me, how did I survive to adulthood?"
We Boomers had it even worse.
I had a friend whose mother treated her kids' earaches by blowing cigarette smoke into the kids ear and plugging it up with a cotton ball.
Today, those kids would be put in foster care.
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We Boomers had it even worse.
I had a friend whose mother treated her kids' earaches by blowing cigarette smoke into the kids ear and plugging it up with a cotton ball.
Today, those kids would be put in foster care.
That would be considered child abuse today, crazy what people used to do.
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That would be considered child abuse today, crazy what people used to do.
Ergo my foster care comment.
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We Boomers had it even worse.
I had a friend whose mother treated her kids' earaches by blowing cigarette smoke into the kids ear and plugging it up with a cotton ball.
Today, those kids would be put in foster care.
I suppose the fact that I regularly rode behind the back seat in a hatchback would be frowned upon these days (and also in the back of a pickup truck...but who didn't)
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We Boomers had it even worse.
I had a friend whose mother treated her kids' earaches by blowing cigarette smoke into the kids ear and plugging it up with a cotton ball.
Today, those kids would be put in foster care.
LMFAO!!
Seriously. Best laugh ive had in a while. Thanks.
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We Boomers had it even worse.
I had a friend whose mother treated her kids' earaches by blowing cigarette smoke into the kids ear and plugging it up with a cotton ball.
Today, those kids would be put in foster care.
Old millennials saw a lot of this sort of action as well. Brandy on the gums of a teething child also comes to mind.
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Old millennials saw a lot of this sort of action as well. Brandy on the gums of a teething child also comes to mind.
I did that to my kids. Blackberry Brandy. My mother, may she rest peacefully, recommended it. They all seem to have survived thus far. But they ignored passing it forward with my grands. Some high priced plastic Sophie the Giraffe thingy was their solution.
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I did that to my kids. Blackberry Brandy. My mother, may she rest peacefully, recommended it. They all seem to have survived thus far. But they ignored passing it forward with my grands. Some high priced plastic Sophie the Giraffe thingy was their solution.
I was a brandy and/or whiskey baby. I’m well.
Remembered when someone figured out those Sophie’s were just filled with mold on the inside?
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Glow and I had no nearby relatives and took care of both of our newborns on our own. It's doable, and in many cases, preferable. I can't imagine anything worse than dealing with a screaming baby and post-partum hormones with other people constantly second-guessing everything you do.
My parents lived in California and my wife’s in New Jersey. All 4 were wonderful people whom we loved a great deal (my MIL is actually still with us, will turn 98 in May) but we were very happy to raise our 4 kids in Chicago (for the most part) without their “help”.
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Guidance you can feel free to ignore, but make sure you establish with your in-laws that it is your baby and you and your spouse will be figuring out how it all works on your own. Seen lots of bad times where in-laws take over or get too pushy with their opinions.
Good luck and god speed
Best. Advice. Ever.
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Reporter, I will be dealing with that soon. We will be living at our in-laws for about 6 weeks starting in mid-April. Granted, our kid will be 3 months old so we kinda already have our routine, but it won't be fun. It is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath ranch house, 1400 sq ft., no basement. 4 adults and 1 infant.
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Reporter, I will be dealing with that soon. We will be living at our in-laws for about 6 weeks starting in mid-April. Granted, our kid will be 3 months old so we kinda already have our routine, but it won't be fun. It is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath ranch house, 1400 sq ft., no basement. 4 adults and 1 infant.
Coleman,
Back in 2003 when the wife and I put on a home addition, we had to move out for what was supposed to be about 2 weeks that turned into 6 weeks.
Myself, my wife, my 2 year old, my 1 month old plus the dog moved into my mom's basement. It was a cozy 6 weeks and thankfully my kids were good sleepers.
Good luck to you.
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Coleman,
Back in 2003 when the wife and I put on a home addition, we had to move out for what was supposed to be about 2 weeks that turned into 6 weeks.
Myself, my wife, my 2 year old, my 1 month old plus the dog moved into my mom's basement. It was a cozy 6 weeks and thankfully my kids were good sleepers.
Good luck to you.
Oh yeah, forgot about our dog. She's pretty low maintenance though. Just sleeps all day.
Thank you.
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Reporter, I will be dealing with that soon. We will be living at our in-laws for about 6 weeks starting in mid-April. Granted, our kid will be 3 months old so we kinda already have our routine, but it won't be fun. It is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath ranch house, 1400 sq ft., no basement. 4 adults and 1 infant.
Good luck Coleman, I’m PM you.
Thanks again everyone else for the advice.
I told my coworker a couple of things that already happened. He suggested that I assert myself and put an end to some of the shenanigans.
Example. I picked up my truck from the body shop because I accidentally scratched the hell out of it when I was transporting my lawn sweeper. My father in law said he’d come pick it up with me. He went joy riding for a while and when he came back to my house he said “so, you’re going to have to bring it back to the body shop, I hit some carS in the parking lot at woodmans” and laughed
Well, I let it go, didn’t really say anything and moved on.
Later that night, he grabbed my wallet (thought it was his) and started stuffing money in it. My wife said that it wasn’t his and he laughed. He took out all of the money and asked me if I had any in it. I mentioned there was some, but it’s fine. He threw me three bucks and said here you go.
Oh, yeah, when my father in law used my truck I told him if there’s little gas in it, to just tell me and I’ll fill it up at Costco since gas is cheap. He went to Costco and put 1/8 of a tank in it and brought it back to me. At that point I would prefer he didn’t fill it at all and just bring it back empty.. (I know he put gas in it because he told me)
Lastly, my in laws love “different” types of food. He’ll eat heart, cow brain, just weird sh**. He and his wife brought all of this fish and other types of odd foods. The fish package was warm by the time they got to Milwaukee from California, and put it in the freezer. The packages weren’t sealed and it leaked juice all over... I was gone yesterday and texted him to eat the food he brought if he’d like, because I wasn’t going to be around
You’d think he’d eat the disgusting food they brought? No, instead it was my black angus steaks I had in the fridge. (I can look past that, but my biggest issue was my kitchen was an absolute mess). They insist on keeping a gallon zip lock bag in my sink and put let over food inside of it with the bag open. My house smells like a dumpster and it’s really pissing me off.
Vent over, sorry again. That all happened in one day so far.
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Is this him?
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Good luck Coleman, I’m PM you.
Thanks again everyone else for the advice.
I told my coworker a couple of things that already happened. He suggested that I assert myself and put an end to some of the shenanigans.
Example. I picked up my truck from the body shop because I accidentally scratched the hell out of it when I was transporting my lawn sweeper. My father in law said he’d come pick it up with me. He went joy riding for a while and when he came back to my house he said “so, you’re going to have to bring it back to the body shop, I hit some carS in the parking lot at woodmans” and laughed
Well, I let it go, didn’t really say anything and moved on.
Later that night, he grabbed my wallet (thought it was his) and started stuffing money in it. My wife said that it wasn’t his and he laughed. He took out all of the money and asked me if I had any in it. I mentioned there was some, but it’s fine. He threw me three bucks and said here you go.
Oh, yeah, when my father in law used my truck I told him if there’s little gas in it, to just tell me and I’ll fill it up at Costco since gas is cheap. He went to Costco and put 1/8 of a tank in it and brought it back to me. At that point I would prefer he didn’t fill it at all and just bring it back empty.. (I know he put gas in it because he told me)
Lastly, my in laws love “different” types of food. He’ll eat heart, cow brain, just weird sh**. He and his wife brought all of this fish and other types of odd foods. The fish package was warm by the time they got to Milwaukee from California, and put it in the freezer. The packages weren’t sealed and it leaked juice all over... I was gone yesterday and texted him to eat the food he brought if he’d like, because I wasn’t going to be around
You’d think he’d eat the disgusting food they brought? No, instead it was my black angus steaks I had in the fridge. (I can look past that, but my biggest issue was my kitchen was an absolute mess). They insist on keeping a gallon zip lock bag in my sink and put let over food inside of it with the bag open. My house smells like a dumpster and it’s really pissing me off.
Vent over, sorry again. That all happened in one day so far.
I think this would qualify for justifiable homicide, TBF.
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Good luck Coleman, I’m PM you.
Thanks again everyone else for the advice.
I told my coworker a couple of things that already happened. He suggested that I assert myself and put an end to some of the shenanigans.
Example. I picked up my truck from the body shop because I accidentally scratched the hell out of it when I was transporting my lawn sweeper. My father in law said he’d come pick it up with me. He went joy riding for a while and when he came back to my house he said “so, you’re going to have to bring it back to the body shop, I hit some carS in the parking lot at woodmans” and laughed
Well, I let it go, didn’t really say anything and moved on.
Later that night, he grabbed my wallet (thought it was his) and started stuffing money in it. My wife said that it wasn’t his and he laughed. He took out all of the money and asked me if I had any in it. I mentioned there was some, but it’s fine. He threw me three bucks and said here you go.
Oh, yeah, when my father in law used my truck I told him if there’s little gas in it, to just tell me and I’ll fill it up at Costco since gas is cheap. He went to Costco and put 1/8 of a tank in it and brought it back to me. At that point I would prefer he didn’t fill it at all and just bring it back empty.. (I know he put gas in it because he told me)
Lastly, my in laws love “different” types of food. He’ll eat heart, cow brain, just weird sh**. He and his wife brought all of this fish and other types of odd foods. The fish package was warm by the time they got to Milwaukee from California, and put it in the freezer. The packages weren’t sealed and it leaked juice all over... I was gone yesterday and texted him to eat the food he brought if he’d like, because I wasn’t going to be around
You’d think he’d eat the disgusting food they brought? No, instead it was my black angus steaks I had in the fridge. (I can look past that, but my biggest issue was my kitchen was an absolute mess). They insist on keeping a gallon zip lock bag in my sink and put let over food inside of it with the bag open. My house smells like a dumpster and it’s really pissing me off.
Vent over, sorry again. That all happened in one day so far.
Whoa. And you married into this? I hope your bride fell very far away from that tree.
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Good luck Coleman, I’m PM you.
Thanks again everyone else for the advice.
I told my coworker a couple of things that already happened. He suggested that I assert myself and put an end to some of the shenanigans.
Example. I picked up my truck from the body shop because I accidentally scratched the hell out of it when I was transporting my lawn sweeper. My father in law said he’d come pick it up with me. He went joy riding for a while and when he came back to my house he said “so, you’re going to have to bring it back to the body shop, I hit some carS in the parking lot at woodmans” and laughed
Well, I let it go, didn’t really say anything and moved on.
Later that night, he grabbed my wallet (thought it was his) and started stuffing money in it. My wife said that it wasn’t his and he laughed. He took out all of the money and asked me if I had any in it. I mentioned there was some, but it’s fine. He threw me three bucks and said here you go.
Oh, yeah, when my father in law used my truck I told him if there’s little gas in it, to just tell me and I’ll fill it up at Costco since gas is cheap. He went to Costco and put 1/8 of a tank in it and brought it back to me. At that point I would prefer he didn’t fill it at all and just bring it back empty.. (I know he put gas in it because he told me)
Lastly, my in laws love “different” types of food. He’ll eat heart, cow brain, just weird sh**. He and his wife brought all of this fish and other types of odd foods. The fish package was warm by the time they got to Milwaukee from California, and put it in the freezer. The packages weren’t sealed and it leaked juice all over... I was gone yesterday and texted him to eat the food he brought if he’d like, because I wasn’t going to be around
You’d think he’d eat the disgusting food they brought? No, instead it was my black angus steaks I had in the fridge. (I can look past that, but my biggest issue was my kitchen was an absolute mess). They insist on keeping a gallon zip lock bag in my sink and put let over food inside of it with the bag open. My house smells like a dumpster and it’s really pissing me off.
Vent over, sorry again. That all happened in one day so far.
This isn't a real person, no way. If he is, what an alpha.
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This isn't a real person, no way. If he is, what an alpha.
Keefe is reporter's father in law? ;D ;D ;D
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Good luck Coleman, I’m PM you.
Thanks again everyone else for the advice.
I told my coworker a couple of things that already happened. He suggested that I assert myself and put an end to some of the shenanigans.
Example. I picked up my truck from the body shop because I accidentally scratched the hell out of it when I was transporting my lawn sweeper. My father in law said he’d come pick it up with me. He went joy riding for a while and when he came back to my house he said “so, you’re going to have to bring it back to the body shop, I hit some carS in the parking lot at woodmans” and laughed
Well, I let it go, didn’t really say anything and moved on.
Later that night, he grabbed my wallet (thought it was his) and started stuffing money in it. My wife said that it wasn’t his and he laughed. He took out all of the money and asked me if I had any in it. I mentioned there was some, but it’s fine. He threw me three bucks and said here you go.
Oh, yeah, when my father in law used my truck I told him if there’s little gas in it, to just tell me and I’ll fill it up at Costco since gas is cheap. He went to Costco and put 1/8 of a tank in it and brought it back to me. At that point I would prefer he didn’t fill it at all and just bring it back empty.. (I know he put gas in it because he told me)
Lastly, my in laws love “different” types of food. He’ll eat heart, cow brain, just weird sh**. He and his wife brought all of this fish and other types of odd foods. The fish package was warm by the time they got to Milwaukee from California, and put it in the freezer. The packages weren’t sealed and it leaked juice all over... I was gone yesterday and texted him to eat the food he brought if he’d like, because I wasn’t going to be around
You’d think he’d eat the disgusting food they brought? No, instead it was my black angus steaks I had in the fridge. (I can look past that, but my biggest issue was my kitchen was an absolute mess). They insist on keeping a gallon zip lock bag in my sink and put let over food inside of it with the bag open. My house smells like a dumpster and it’s really pissing me off.
Vent over, sorry again. That all happened in one day so far.
Time for you to grab your FIL by the balls with a vice grips, strap the vice grips to the truck, and drag him back to California. Oh, and make him pay for the gas.
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Keefe is reporter's father in law? ;D ;D ;D
Lmao!!! This made me laugh
I’m such a beta
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No one should eat cow brains and fly fish in their suitcase to visit their daughter 2000 miles away from CA to WI. That’s so disgusting and how diseases like covid start. I’m completely horrified by the lack of sanitization and care for not eating rancid food.
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This isn't a real person, no way. If he is, what an alpha.
It sounds like cousin Eddy from Vacation.
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Lmao!!! This made me laugh
I’m such a beta
You could really score some points if you could find a golden coral with sweet breads(thyroid gland), cow and/ pangolin innnards, tripe, liver and onions, chitlins, and maybe even some bat heads and rhinoceros ...all you care to eat of course...nummmy num num. better get some ozium and wooden matches something tells me pangolin farts are worse than 2nd hand smoke
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You could really score some points if you could find a golden coral with sweet breads(thyroid gland), cow and/ pangolin innnards, tripe, liver and onions, chitlins, and maybe even some bat heads and rhinoceros ...all you care to eat of course...nummmy num num. better get some ozium and wooden matches something tells me pangolin farts are worse than 2nd hand smoke
Save the neck for me, Clark.
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Very sad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/nyregion/new-york-city-doctor-suicide-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/9eOiEMdkrV
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Very sad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/nyregion/new-york-city-doctor-suicide-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/9eOiEMdkrV
Of course it is, as is every instance of someone who takes their own life.
I do find it a little hard to believe that she had no history of mental illness. Maybe no documented history, but it is unbelievably odd that an ER doctor who dealt with horrible tragedy every single day - child abuse, rape, grisly murders, horrific auto accidents - would decide to end things over the Covid virus.
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Of course it is, as is every instance of someone who takes their own life.
I do find it a little hard to believe that she had no history of mental illness. Maybe no documented history, but it is unbelievably odd that an ER doctor who dealt with horrible tragedy every single day - child abuse, rape, grisly murders, horrific auto accidents - would decide to end things over the Covid virus.
Why? They have almost 6,000 deaths in the last couple months from it. They have freezer trucks to store dead bodies and hospital beds with body bags lining the hallways in some hospitals there. They’re doing mass burials for the unclaimed bodies. This is not something most doctors out there have had to deal with.
I would be beyond shocked if there weren’t people on the front lines that have worked in the field for many years who are dealing with emotional issues they’ve never faced before because of this.
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Why? They have almost 6,000 deaths in the last couple months from it. They have freezer trucks to store dead bodies and hospital beds with body bags lining the hallways in some hospitals there. They’re doing mass burials for the unclaimed bodies. This is not something most doctors out there have had to deal with.
I would be beyond shocked if there weren’t people on the front lines that have worked in the field for many years who are dealing with emotional issues they’ve never faced before because of this.
I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
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Why? They have almost 6,000 deaths in the last couple months from it. They have freezer trucks to store dead bodies and hospital beds with body bags lining the hallways in some hospitals there. They’re doing mass burials for the unclaimed bodies. This is not something most doctors out there have had to deal with.
I would be beyond shocked if there weren’t people on the front lines that have worked in the field for many years who are dealing with emotional issues they’ve never faced before because of this.
Gonna be a lot of PTSD among health care workers.
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Gonna be PTSD among grocery stockers. It is a MASH unit mentality right now. What is going to suck is when the next wave comes after a little down time.
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I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
Wow.
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I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
The difference is in the volume. They see a lot of terrible stuff, but there is time to deal with the episodes and grieve reflect.
Right now they are quite honestly, having to watch a patient die, move the body to free up a bed, watch a patient die, move the body to free up a bed. People screaming in pain everywhere, dying all around you, with no time to sleep, eat, or even reflect on what happened...with no possible sign of this ending anytime soon.
That amount of mental turmoil without any time to reflect, or deal with it will break almost anyone.
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Gonna be a lot of PTSD among health care workers.
Already a spike in suicide among non health care workers. People waiting for their states to handle unemployment benefits is not helping this statistic either as people talk of suicide.
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/delays-for-unemployment-no-food-people-talking-about-suicide/
At some point likely sooner than later, you have to open things up and people get back to work. If you don’t, you will have death as a result of the actions taken to stop the disease while driving other problems.
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I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
And this is one of the long time challenges of mental health.....People who casually decide for you what affects you in what way and what doesn't, and how much. Who are you to decide?
Depression is a very vast, broad category, as are other types of mental health.
We have had a discussion going in the TV thread. Not all people with Bipolar are similar to characters from Ozark or Homeland or remotely close to that. the ranges are vast. (They are good tv shows for entertainment however.)
"your experience with depression" .....I'm curious to what that is....because you can't exactly paint depression with a broad brush. That would be one of the first things people learn about depression and other types of mental illness.
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I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
It is not that what doctors and nurses are dealing with is necessarily different from the traumas and tragedies they have dealt with before. It is the MAGNITUDE of the deaths in cities like New York. Mass graves. hundreds dying in your hospital a day. I don't find it difficult to believe at all.
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And this is one of the long time challenges of mental health.....People who casually decide for you what affects you in what way and what doesn't, and how much. Who are you to decide?
Depression is a very vast, broad category, as are other types of mental health.
We have had a discussion going in the TV thread. Not all people with Bipolar are similar to characters from Ozark or Homeland or remotely close to that. the ranges are vast. (They are good tv shows for entertainment however.)
"your experience with depression" .....I'm curious to what that is....because you can't exactly paint depression with a broad brush. That would be one of the first things people learn about depression and other types of mental illness.
Great, great, great point. I have had to deal with this my entire life with anxiety. When I try to explain my anxiety to someone who does not suffer, they don't understand why I am anxious about things that they wouldn't be anxious about. As if I should just see things the way they do and my anxiety will be cured.
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I could understand that if a doctor had already suffered from clinical depression that it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. But if you are otherwise mentally healthy, and your job involves dealing with women who lose a full-term pregnancy, children who been mortally wounded in gang crossfire, accidents where screaming victims have lost limbs, and telling people every single day that their loved one didn't make it, I can't imagine that dealing with the victims of a virus is sending you over the edge. Just my opinion given my personal experience with people who suffer from depression.
Not your best take, chickadee.
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Already a spike in suicide among non health care workers. People waiting for their states to handle unemployment benefits is not helping this statistic either as people talk of suicide.
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/delays-for-unemployment-no-food-people-talking-about-suicide/
At some point likely sooner than later, you have to open things up and people get back to work. If you don’t, you will have death as a result of the actions taken to stop the disease while driving other problems.
Or how about a competent government who doesn’t make their citizens wait for benefits during a pandemic.
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This article gives some reflections of what it is like for these medical professionals. The quotes below show something new in this crisis that I personally would struggle with (if I were a medical prof).
“It’s just difficult seeing these patients. A lot of them are alone, and they don’t have their families. Sometimes it’s a lot of burden on one nurse.”
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The patients have panic in their eyes. Along with the anxiety that comes with not being able to have adequate oxygen and breathe, comes that panic of them saying, “Am I going to die? Am I ever going to see my family again?” It’s very emotional for them and for us.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-hospitals.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-hospitals.html)
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Or how about a competent government who doesn’t make their citizens wait for benefits during a pandemic.
Which one? In this particular case we are talking about 50 of them. The federal gov't provided the funds to the states, the states then are having problems pushing them to their citizens. Some states with very few problems, others are having enormous challenges. Old infrastructure, computer technology that hasn't been updated. Competency comes in all forms.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/27/those-600-unemployment-checks-delayed-in-some-states.html
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while i was in Az, got a call from a patient with a tooth ache on lower right and left sides. i have remote access to my records, checked her xrays, health history and dental history. sure enough, both teeth were dx'd with issues over a year ago, but regardless, they were of course bothering her now. many people put things off when they don't hurt, are very busy and/or don't have the "disposable income" to attend to what became "essential emergencies". i prescribed antibiotics and a pain reliever and gave her a referral to an endodontist(root canals) and an oral surgeon. i called her back the next day and she reported an improvement/decreased discomfort.
this lady, in her early 50's, a nurse at a small nursing home said that due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the other nurses would either call in sick or no show for their shift, necessitating her to work double shifts. she also worked weekends as a hospice nurse.
toothache(s), not surprisingly, reoccur and come back with a vengeance. no surprise as her body was taking a beating working all those extra hours, and the pain causing her immune system to weaken and become less effective to fight the growing infections. she called the endodontist-they told her, for reasons i have yet to find out, they would not see her. i'm going to assume it was money. she has insurance and said she told me that she was willing to pay cash. she called the oral surgeons-they, according to her and i have yet to find out their story, would not see her because she wasn't a patient of record. weird because i send them a lot of patients and many of them are not patients of record and we simply fax them a referral slip and xrays on record.
by this time, she was in agony and started calling multiple dentists in the milwaukee area. she told me "every dentist in milwaukee and waukesha"-NO ONE see her despite her telling me she would have given her left testicle to have something done. my words to describe the amount of pain she was in for over 2 weeks. i did not find this out until 2 days before returning home. i assumed, as most do, the antibiotic settled things down
the day after i return from Az.(my flight arrived at 10 pm night before) i see her in my office. the tooth on the lower left had a crown on it and it was broken off at the gumline and flapping around like it was on a hinge. she said that one isn't near as bad as the other side and was merely annoying. the tooth on the lower right had a broken filling with a piece of the filling jammed down into the gum between that tooth and the one in front of it plus a deep cavity into the pulp chamber in full "hot tooth" mode.
the point of that whole rambling story? what the hell does it take for someone to be seen today. does one need to limp into an office with a compound fracture? a gun shot? these teeth were probably more painful than a gunshot, but i really wouldn't know as i've never had a gun shot. i did have an infected wisdom tooth many years ago and the memory of that pain is something i wouldn't wish upon anyone
just wondering what this virus is doing to us as a society. well, not wondering, but very very concerned how we are triaging stuff. have we lost our humanity? the "unintended" consequences of this covid thing are very scary in more ways than one
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while i was in Az, got a call from a patient with a tooth ache on lower right and left sides. i have remote access to my records, checked her xrays, health history and dental history. sure enough, both teeth were dx'd with issues over a year ago, but regardless, they were of course bothering her now. many people put things off when they don't hurt, are very busy and/or don't have the "disposable income" to attend to what became "essential emergencies". i prescribed antibiotics and a pain reliever and gave her a referral to an endodontist(root canals) and an oral surgeon. i called her back the next day and she reported an improvement/decreased discomfort.
this lady, in her early 50's, a nurse at a small nursing home said that due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the other nurses would either call in sick or no show for their shift, necessitating her to work double shifts. she also worked weekends as a hospice nurse.
toothache(s), not surprisingly, reoccur and come back with a vengeance. no surprise as her body was taking a beating working all those extra hours, and the pain causing her immune system to weaken and become less effective to fight the growing infections. she called the endodontist-they told her, for reasons i have yet to find out, they would not see her. i'm going to assume it was money. she has insurance and said she told me that she was willing to pay cash. she called the oral surgeons-they, according to her and i have yet to find out their story, would not see her because she wasn't a patient of record. weird because i send them a lot of patients and many of them are not patients of record and we simply fax them a referral slip and xrays on record.
by this time, she was in agony and started calling multiple dentists in the milwaukee area. she told me "every dentist in milwaukee and waukesha"-NO ONE see her despite her telling me she would have given her left testicle to have something done. my words to describe the amount of pain she was in for over 2 weeks. i did not find this out until 2 days before returning home. i assumed, as most do, the antibiotic settled things down
the day after i return from Az.(my flight arrived at 10 pm night before) i see her in my office. the tooth on the lower left had a crown on it and it was broken off at the gumline and flapping around like it was on a hinge. she said that one isn't near as bad as the other side and was merely annoying. the tooth on the lower right had a broken filling with a piece of the filling jammed down into the gum between that tooth and the one in front of it plus a deep cavity into the pulp chamber in full "hot tooth" mode.
the point of that whole rambling story? what the hell does it take for someone to be seen today. does one need to limp into an office with a compound fracture? a gun shot? these teeth were probably more painful than a gunshot, but i really wouldn't know as i've never had a gun shot. i did have an infected wisdom tooth many years ago and the memory of that pain is something i wouldn't wish upon anyone
just wondering what this virus is doing to us as a society. well, not wondering, but very very concerned how we are triaging stuff. have we lost our humanity? the "unintended" consequences of this covid thing are very scary in more ways than one
JESUS, rocket what a horrible experience for that nurse. I can't imagine the pain she must have been in, and what she must have been doing to deal with it. I guess we all process pain differently, but what you described sounds like pure agony.
Anecdotally, my MIL got a splinter in her finger a week and a half ago and it took her a full week, puss, and a massive infection for her to go to the urgent care. She waited for a couple of reasons. She is one of those people who HATES the doctor. She is one of those people who doesn't want to bother anyone with her problems. And now, of course, there is covid to worry about. She didn't want to go to the urgent care for this splinter because she didn't want to take up space for 'someone who needed it more'. My MIL is a wonderful lady, and the kindest person you would ever meet, but she takes this sort of thing too far to her own detriment.
She said the office she went to was not busy at all and she was glad she went when we finally made her.
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Keefe is reporter's father in law? ;D ;D ;D
I will play FIL as long as there is single malt in the liquor locker
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Which one? In this particular case we are talking about 50 of them. The federal gov't provided the funds to the states, the states then are having problems pushing them to their citizens. Some states with very few problems, others are having enormous challenges. Old infrastructure, computer technology that hasn't been updated. Competency comes in all forms.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/27/those-600-unemployment-checks-delayed-in-some-states.html
Everything. The federal government. Many state governments. A lot of it is broken.
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JESUS, rocket what a horrible experience for that nurse. I can't imagine the pain she must have been in, and what she must have been doing to deal with it. I guess we all process pain differently, but what you described sounds like pure agony.
Anecdotally, my MIL got a splinter in her finger a week and a half ago and it took her a full week, puss, and a massive infection for her to go to the urgent care. She waited for a couple of reasons. She is one of those people who HATES the doctor. She is one of those people who doesn't want to bother anyone with her problems. And now, of course, there is covid to worry about. She didn't want to go to the urgent care for this splinter because she didn't want to take up space for 'someone who needed it more'. My MIL is a wonderful lady, and the kindest person you would ever meet, but she takes this sort of thing too far to her own detriment.
She said the office she went to was not busy at all and she was glad she went when we finally made her.
Thanks hards, the scenario I presented, I’m sure was experienced by many and this has to wear on the mental health of someone. In my case, the lady was incredibly well adapted as she had to compartmentalize her discomfort in order to function and accomplished it better than average
(Including me)to say the least. However, I would guess that most would not have been able,to deal with it as she did and turn to drugs and or alcohol which can lead to all forms of violence and who knows what other uncharacteristic behaviors.
There has to be a better way to triage these things as while we think we are taking care of the elephant in the room while the forest is being pushed aside. As we go forward, we better be on the alert for all the things we pushed aside. Some may be more subtle than others
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rocket, what caused these places to not see her? Were they worried because of her background as a nurse? Didn't have adequate safety measures in place?
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rocket, what caused these places to not see her? Were they worried because of her background as a nurse? Didn't have adequate safety measures in place?
that is a good question fluff. i intend on talking to the ones i know specifically. i've known the oral surgeons personally and professionally for over 30 years. they've worked on many of my patients. my understanding so far is they told her that because she wasn't a patient of record...well, i send them multiple patients each month that are new to them. all they had to do was simply ask me for a referral slip and i have the capability to fax it over as we have many times. i had someone at my office every day for at least 3-4 hours answering the phone. i was getting calls down in Az as my cell # is on our vm.
as for the endodontist(s) upstanding people. my dad was a classmate of their father. as a matter of fact, i promised to take them out to dinner as soon as the restaurants reopen. usually it's the other way around, but they have sent their appreciation my way as well. without giving away their identity, they are very well known and respected within the dental community throughout the state and probably midwest and beyond.
since i have been back, my time as been taken up readying the office to reopen, catching up on admin. stuff, and seeing a few emergency patients. but tomorrow or monday, i intend on calling them to see what happened here
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What happened to cheeks or whoever’s unborn kid? This was the genesis of the mental health topic. Someone was having a baby they thought might be born with significant challenges.
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This is a good piece from Joe Rexrode.
https://theathletic.com/1787061/2020/05/06/what-if-ut-got-a-dooley-do-over-heres-one-life-that-might-not-have-made-it/?amp#click=https://t.co/TrXDwi2JmF