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Author Topic: Best Way to Support the Program?  (Read 5592 times)

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2023, 02:26:41 PM »
Marcus Lemonis was sitting courtside in MSG with prominent MU administration officials.  I am sure there are things going on behind the scenes to ensure we can support our SA's in order to keep them at MU.




 Nah, I heard he was on a billboard in Times Square, hey?
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2023, 02:26:55 PM »
This has nothing to do with a college athlete getting paid. I went to all four Be the Difference partners websites and they each have their own DONATE button. I am just troubled that donating money to Be the Difference is money that could be going to that particular charity itself.

If you want to donate to them independently, that's your prerogative. If you want your money to go to a 501c3 that helps our players earn money and contribute to the community in the process, this is your option. This isn't just about helping those organizations, it's about supporting the Marquette Basketball program.
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2023, 02:28:15 PM »
This has nothing to do with a college athlete getting paid. I went to all four Be the Difference partners websites and they each have their own DONATE button. I am just troubled that donating money to Be the Difference is money that could be going to that particular charity itself.

If you think your charity dollars are better spent elsewhere, that's obviously a legitimate opinion. But no one who was going to donate to these four non-profits is going to stop donating because of the collective. What will happen, is a bunch of people who would have never thought to donate to any of these organizations before will now donate because of the collective.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2023, 02:30:36 PM »

In my experience, giving a good employee a nice bump in compensation often prevents them from looking at other alternatives. IOW, show Kam some love, and we may not need to match some hypothetical brinks offer from Memphis.

I have no problem with that. I just have a problem with Be the Difference promoting itself that if you give here we'll help our "partners" in the community when donating directly to those organizations may actually do more good.

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2023, 02:32:56 PM »
If you think your charity dollars are better spent elsewhere, that's obviously a legitimate opinion. But no one who was going to donate to these four non-profits is going to stop donating because of the collective. What will happen, is a bunch of people who would have never thought to donate to any of these organizations before will now donate because of the collective.

How is that, any specifics?  I might change my mind.
If you want to donate to them independently, that's your prerogative. If you want your money to go to a 501c3 that helps our players earn money and contribute to the community in the process, this is your option. This isn't just about helping those organizations, it's about supporting the Marquette Basketball program.

I though that what the Blue & Gold fund was for.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2023, 02:51:12 PM »
How is that, any specifics?  I might change my mind.
I though that what the Blue & Gold fund was for.

The Blue & Gold fund also supports the program, but the two are completely different. However, the B&G cannot direct money to retaining players.

Quite simply, if you like what you are seeing and want to keep seeing it with this group of players, donate to BTD.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2023, 03:12:54 PM »
The Blue & Gold fund also supports the program, but the two are completely different. However, the B&G cannot direct money to retaining players.

Quite simply, if you like what you are seeing and want to keep seeing it with this group of players, donate to BTD.

So where is Memphis getting their money to allegedly poach Kam. Is it through a non-profit?

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2023, 03:13:32 PM »
There should be a very large, flashing "Donate to the BTD Fund Here" button at the very top of this forum's landing page.

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2023, 03:18:04 PM »
So where is Memphis getting their money to allegedly poach Kam. Is it through a non-profit?

Don't know. And I'll believe all MU will lose Kam or anyone else to poaching as soon as I see somebody poached. I believe we'll have the money (and, yes, the culture) to keep anybody who truly wants to stay.

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2023, 03:24:52 PM »
So where is Memphis getting their money to allegedly poach Kam. Is it through a non-profit?

The University of Memphis and Marquette University have distinctly different mission statements. Putting it plainly, Memphis NIL program does not need to set up any sort of charitable efforts to funnel money to their athletes. Two completely different situations.

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2023, 03:36:02 PM »
The University of Memphis and Marquette University have distinctly different mission statements. Putting it plainly, Memphis NIL program does not need to set up any sort of charitable efforts to funnel money to their athletes. Two completely different situations.

I suppose you're talking about the theoretical world, but their NIL fund is setup the exact same way:
https://www.901fund.org/post/901-funds-nil-efforts

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2023, 04:10:06 PM »
I suppose you're talking about the theoretical world, but their NIL fund is setup the exact same way:
https://www.901fund.org/post/901-funds-nil-efforts

Set out the same. Mission carried out much differently as you can plainly see below.

Bowling With Basketball was a successful event, Memphis Tiger basketball players had a great time meeting Tiger fans. The players got the opportunity to take part in the event as an NIL deal and they spoke to media outlets about the upcoming season.
While at the event, Alex Lomax officially stated that he was back on the Memphis Basketball team for his final year. He talked about his excitement to return the Memphis court and how he has so much pride in wearing "Memphis" across his chest for one last season.

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“This is the best thing we can do," MU Men's Basketball player Oso Ighodaro says. "Hang out with the kids, give them some positive influences and it's fun. We're just doing what we love with the kids and it's fun out here."

Also realizing I didn't answer the original posters question correctly. Memphis has big money donors (like Marquette does) but they're going out to get the biggest guys in the portal with that NIL Money. BTD fund is meant to keep players like Kam at the school. Shaka has made it clear he doesn't want to go after the guys in the portal with their hands out.

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2023, 04:10:22 PM »
So where is Memphis getting their money to allegedly poach Kam. Is it through a non-profit?

Most of it is likely coming from FedEx.
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2023, 04:23:08 PM »
So did Chones have a bad relationship with Al when he left for the ABA?

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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2023, 04:27:14 PM »
Marcus Lemonis was sitting courtside in MSG with prominent MU administration officials.  I am sure there are things going on behind the scenes to ensure we can support our SA's in order to keep them at MU.

I wonder how many of the guys in our rotation are campers.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2023, 04:32:01 PM »
Suckers.  Marquette has  a $1 billion dollar endowment.  I’ll support the team by going to games but they are doing quite well financially.  They’ve got plenty of money.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2023, 04:33:18 PM »
I know for volleyball some assistant coaching positions are basically minimum wage jobs to work like 80+ hours a week.  But they get compensated very well overall because they'll be paid off of the summer camps that the programs will run.

Could players eventually get paid for working the MUBB camps?  Or if it can't be from the school they go to, maybe they work local high school camps?
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« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2023, 04:35:57 PM »
Suckers.  Marquette has  a $1 billion dollar endowment.  I’ll support the team by going to games but they are doing quite well financially.  They’ve got plenty of money.

You obviously have no idea how endowments work.
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2023, 04:37:39 PM »
They take .001 percent of endowment money from the hedge funds and they’ve got their athlete money.
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« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2023, 04:38:24 PM »
They take .001 percent of endowment money from the hedge funds and they’ve got their athlete money.

You obviously have no idea how NIL works.
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« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2023, 04:38:50 PM »
I don't understand the objection.  Don't all of these NIL collectives have to come up with some phony way to transmit the cash to the athlete?  I thought you still couldn't run afoul of "pay to play" so the athlete has to "do" something using their name image or likeness, their "brand" to get the transfer.  If that is to help out a charity instead of a gym or a car dealership, might as well be the charity. I guess my concern that the charity pay be competitive the other options.
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Re: Best Way to Support the Program?
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2023, 04:42:31 PM »
The courts may declare athletes employees soon so direct payment may be coming anyway instead of the facade that’s there now.
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« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2023, 05:03:34 PM »
You obviously have no idea how endowments work.
He's obviously not well (versed) endowed

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« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2023, 05:05:30 PM »
Ouch.
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« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2023, 06:21:32 PM »
Set out the same. Mission carried out much differently as you can plainly see below.

Bowling With Basketball was a successful event, Memphis Tiger basketball players had a great time meeting Tiger fans. The players got the opportunity to take part in the event as an NIL deal and they spoke to media outlets about the upcoming season.
While at the event, Alex Lomax officially stated that he was back on the Memphis Basketball team for his final year. He talked about his excitement to return the Memphis court and how he has so much pride in wearing "Memphis" across his chest for one last season.

That appears to be an event to raise money for the fund - not paid performances by the athletes.  You don't have to like them, but they're doing the exact same thing as Marquette, maybe they're even doing it better..

https://choose901.com/901-fund-bowl-with-memphis-basketball/
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