Vaccine/Antibody updates

[Uncle Rico]

Right wing hypocrite complaining that there is one day without a press briefing seems on brand.

Redsteeze is one of the biggest lightweight intellectuals out there.  I’ve read his stuff and beyond his grammatical errors, poor grasp of policy and history, he’s made an entire schtick out of being a media watchdog, whatever that is.  There are thousands of conservative intellectuals and pundits worth following.  He isn’t one.  Anyone retweeting or linking to him is obviously unserious.

[JWags85]

Redsteeze is one of the biggest lightweight intellectuals out there.  I’ve read his stuff and beyond his grammatical errors, poor grasp of policy and history, he’s made an entire schtick out of being a media watchdog, whatever that is.  There are thousands of conservative intellectuals and pundits worth following.  He isn’t one.  Anyone retweeting or linking to him is obviously unserious.

His genre of media/schtick is the worst kind.  Find snippets or stories of the "bad guys", smugly post it, and the add some dumb crowing barb.  Ive unfollowed a bunch of formerly good Twitter follows who started to endlessly retweet idiots like him or his liberal counterparts.  Anyone who can't post something without framing every Dem/Dem supporter as a socialist crony with a dastardly agenda or every Rep/conservative as some MAGA adoring callous lunatic while lifting their own intelligence is just worthless noise, unless you just want to snort some like minded echo chamber political pixie sticks

[Uncle Rico]

His genre of media/schtick is the worst kind.  Find snippets or stories of the "bad guys", smugly post it, and the add some dumb crowing barb.  Ive unfollowed a bunch of formerly good Twitter follows who started to endlessly retweet idiots like him or his liberal counterparts.  Anyone who can't post something without framing every Dem/Dem supporter as a socialist crony with a dastardly agenda or every Rep/conservative as some MAGA adoring callous lunatic while lifting their own intelligence is just worthless noise, unless you just want to snort some like minded echo chamber political pixie sticks

It’s all nauseating

[jesmu84]

His genre of media/schtick is the worst kind.  Find snippets or stories of the "bad guys", smugly post it, and the add some dumb crowing barb.  Ive unfollowed a bunch of formerly good Twitter follows who started to endlessly retweet idiots like him or his liberal counterparts.  Anyone who can't post something without framing every Dem/Dem supporter as a socialist crony with a dastardly agenda or every Rep/conservative as some MAGA adoring callous lunatic while lifting their own intelligence is just worthless noise, unless you just want to snort some like minded echo chamber political pixie sticks

Whoa whoa whoa. Wait a minute....

What's wrong with snorting pixie sticks?

[naginiF]

I just updated the sign in the Scoop break room. It now reads:

"It's been 7 0 days since Chico's has been repeatedly dunked on"

[forgetful]

https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/fda-advisory-panel-refuses-to-green-light-booster-shots-for-people-16-and-over/

It will be interesting to follow up on whether this was the right decision in a couple months.

I've mentioned previously that this is a difficult call for the FDA as there are a lot of variables in this decision, some of which we do not have the full answers for yet. The lack of full answers is what ultimately left the advisory panel to recommend against a third dose for all. They are deciding being reactive is a better plan than proactive.

One key note: The advisory panel recommended the 3rd dose for a wider range than they report in this article. It is recommended for:

1. 65+
2. Certain medical conditions.
3. High risk occupations

The reason, is there is definitive data that the 3rd dose boosts efficacy, is safe, and enhances protection against both spread and severe infection. They pretty much universally agree that a 3rd dose is necessary, just concerned on the timeline on when that 3rd dose is best.

Israel was already seeing severe breakthroughs (they vaccinated earlier). Their models showed if they waited, hospitals would soon be overwhelmed. The argument from the advisory committee is that we haven't yet seen the wave of severe breakthroughs, so are uncertain on the optimal time to initiate a 3rd dose.

What the scientists, and administration are hoping is that increased vaccinations due to mandates via the OSHA rule decrease spread enough that we may not need the 3rd dose as early. Getting the unvaccinated to due the right thing is the current focus. Let's hope it works.

edit: Note that the pool of individuals being recommended a 3rd dose, are also the very first people on the initial priority list. So they would still be getting their 3rd dose at around the 8-10 month mark. That buys time to get data in the US on when the 3rd dose is most needed for the later vaccinated groups. This is a big factor in the final decisions, as it likely doesn't shift any of the WH's initial timelines.

[forgetful]

For those interested in seeing all the data and discussions. They can be found here:

https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-september-17-2021-meeting-announcement#event-information

and the data slides here.

https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-september-17-2021-meeting-announcement#event-materials

[pacearrow02]

I just updated the sign in the Scoop break room. It now reads:

"It's been 7 0 days since Chico's has been repeatedly dunked on"

Because people don’t like a guy I linked a tweet to?  Nothing that was said in the message was wrong, not sure that’s getting dunked on.

Remember when I got “dunked” on because I brought up RSV and how that poses a significant risk to kids.  I was told I was wrong and crazy.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/health/2021/09/17/wisconsin-pediatric-icus-fill-because-non-covid-viruses-like-rsv/5704313001/

I wasn’t.

[forgetful]

Because people don’t like a guy I linked a tweet to?  Nothing that was said in the message was wrong, not sure that’s getting dunked on.

Remember when I got “dunked” on because I brought up RSV and how that poses a significant risk to kids.  I was told I was wrong and crazy.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/health/2021/09/17/wisconsin-pediatric-icus-fill-because-non-covid-viruses-like-rsv/5704313001/

I wasn’t.

nm. Not worth my time.

More clear trolling.

[Uncle Rico]

nm. Not worth my time.

More clear trolling.

Your original post was correct

[Pakuni]

Remember when I got “dunked” on because I brought up RSV and how that poses a significant risk to kids.  I was told I was wrong and crazy.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/health/2021/09/17/wisconsin-pediatric-icus-fill-because-non-covid-viruses-like-rsv/5704313001/

I wasn’t.

This may no doubt shock many here, but this isn't what happened in the previous RSV discussions at all.
Rather, you claimed that RSV "almost exclusively hospitalizes kids," which is provably false, then posted outdated stats to compare COVID vs RSV hospitalizations among kids.

Nobody called you crazy. We just pointed out your selective/misleading data.
I'll post the receipts if you wish.

Oh, and the link you chose to prove you were right contains these paragraph, which proves you weren't.
Southern states are meanwhile seeing their pediatric ICUs fill with children infected by the more contagious delta variant of COVID-19. Children now account for more than a quarter of new cases nationwide, according to a Sept. 9 report from the American Academy of Pediatrics, and as more children get the virus, more will be hospitalized with it.

[forgetful]

Your original post was correct

Thanks, I just figured I was wasting my time and indulging the troll, so simply removed the factual rebuttal.

I'm positively convinced now that he knows he's inaccurate, shifting goal posts, and arguing in bad faith now as some kind of fun game to him.

[Jockey]

Thanks, I just figured I was wasting my time and indulging the troll, so simply removed the factual rebuttal.

I'm positively convinced now that he knows he's inaccurate, shifting goal posts, and arguing in bad faith now as some kind of fun game to him.

Are you new here?

[🏀]

Thanks, I just figured I was wasting my time and indulging the troll, so simply removed the factual rebuttal.

I'm positively convinced now that he knows he's inaccurate, shifting goal posts, and arguing in bad faith now as some kind of fun game to him.

Yet there’s of slew of dentists and jizz-moppers cheering him on and worse, believing he’s correct.

[MU82]

So in addition to selfish, stupid people refusing to get vaccinated, getting infected and taking up so many ICU beds that hospitals in many states have to turn away non-covid patients ... dopes who are taking a horse de-wormer to treat the infection they wouldn't have gotten had they been vaccinated are messing things up for horses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/19/ivermectin-horse-dewormer-owners-covid/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F34b95d2%2F61475a989d2fda9d41d6ac89%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F43%2F74%2F61475a989d2fda9d41d6ac89

Equine ivermectin comes in small tubes and syringes and helps eliminate “many types of worms,” often for less than $10. And lately it’s been hard to find.

Amid the recent clamor for the deworming agent — commonly used on horses, livestock and sometimes dogs and cats — as an unproven covid-19 treatment for humans, people who need to treat their horses with the substance have been faced with empty shelves and the fear that they could be mistaken for the people who are using the drug on themselves.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Jealous of DeSantis, Noem, and whatever the dork's name is in Mississippi, Gov. Kemp points out that mandating the AIDS vaccine didn't work...

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1439573491481780231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1439573491481780231%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100215874503

[Jockey]

So in addition to selfish, stupid people refusing to get vaccinated, getting infected and taking up so many ICU beds that hospitals in many states have to turn away non-covid patients ... dopes who are taking a horse de-wormer to treat the infection they wouldn't have gotten had they been vaccinated are messing things up for horses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/19/ivermectin-horse-dewormer-owners-covid/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F34b95d2%2F61475a989d2fda9d41d6ac89%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F43%2F74%2F61475a989d2fda9d41d6ac89

Equine ivermectin comes in small tubes and syringes and helps eliminate “many types of worms,” often for less than $10. And lately it’s been hard to find.

Amid the recent clamor for the deworming agent — commonly used on horses, livestock and sometimes dogs and cats — as an unproven covid-19 treatment for humans, people who need to treat their horses with the substance have been faced with empty shelves and the fear that they could be mistaken for the people who are using the drug on themselves.

If it comes down to either keeping horses alive or keeping republicans alive?

I love horses. They're smarter.

[Mutaman]

If it comes down to either keeping horses alive or keeping republicans alive?

I love horses. They're smarter.

Certainly true if we're talking about the thoroughbred.  They're faster than any other animal, they can jump higher than any other animal. and they are the most beautiful of all animals. Take a thoroughbred over a republican and many democrats any day.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

If it comes down to either keeping horses alive or keeping republicans alive?

I love horses. They're smarter.

Don't mess with my Triple Crown and Saratoga!

[Pakuni]

Looks like Tucker figured it out.

@justinbaragona: Tucker Carlson: "The point of mandatory vaccinations to identify the sincere Christians in the ranks, the freethinkers, the men with high testosterone levels, and anybody else who doesn’t love Joe Biden and make them leave immediately. It’s a takeover of the U.S. military!" https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1440107390813212672/video/1

[tower912]

Tucker gotta Tucker.

[MU82]

From the Charlotte Observer:

A truck claiming to be from a funeral home was emblazoned with a blunt message Sunday while driving around Bank of America Stadium, where the Panthers were playing the New Orleans Saints: “Don’t get vaccinated.”

It remains unclear who might be behind the scare tactic urging people to finally get vaccinated against COVID-19.

The website for the “Wilmore Funeral Home” on the truck takes people to a site that simply says, “Get vaccinated now. If not, see you soon.”

[Jockey]

Looks like Tucker figured it out.

@justinbaragona: Tucker Carlson: "The point of mandatory vaccinations to identify the sincere Christians in the ranks, the freethinkers, the men with high testosterone levels, and anybody else who doesn’t love Joe Biden and make them leave immediately. It’s a takeover of the U.S. military!" https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1440107390813212672/video/1

Tuckums is vaccinated.

[MU82]

Charlotte's second-largest hospital system has stored the carrots and has gotten out the sticks ..

Novant Health employees had a deadline of Sept. 15 to be compliant with a new program that required them to either get a dose of the COVID vaccine or get a medical or religious exemption. Now, nearly 400 employees who failed to comply have been suspended and put on a five-day unpaid suspension period with the chance to follow original orders.

Refusal to comply after that five-day period will result in termination, according to Novant.

As the Observer’s Hannah Smoot reports, 98.6% of more than 35,000 employees are compliant with the program. Workers who have gotten their first vaccine of Pfizer or Moderna have until Oct. 15 to get the second dose.

Employees who have an exemption must undergo weekly COVID testing, wear N95 masks or other PPE, and wear eye-protection while working on Novant premises, according to the hospital system.

The largest system, which also is the largest employer in the region, has a later deadline: Oct. 31.

[jesmu84]

How about instead of boosters, we focus on first shots in the unvax in the US -> Canada -> Mexico -> Central/South America?

Secure the virus on a global level.

You could MAYBE get buy-in from me on boosters for eldery/at-risk groups.

Otherwise, focus on obtaining herd immunity within our borders and then geographically close->far.

Of course, I'm guessing here, that's not the best way to guarantee top dollar for pfizer/moderna/jj