Marquette: Steve Wojciechowski

[radome]

From: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-moves-grading-2014s-biggest-hires-four-years-into-the-job/

Grade: B

The Golden Eagles have made one NCAA Tournament (2017) in four seasons under Wojo, who has a 73-59 record. This is the Duke alumnus' first go of it as a head coach. Wojciechowski's done a solid job, but it's a letdown when you contrast with Virginia Tech's situation above. How so? Whereas Virginia Tech seldom makes the NCAA Tournament (and with Williams making back-to-back Dances, it bumps up his grade), Marquette has a much better history.

The Eagles have made only one NCAA Tournament in the past four years. The last time the school had this kind of "drought" under one coach was from 1989-1993, when it took Kevin O'Neill four years to make his first NCAA Tournament. Personally, I think Marquette is a sneaky candidate to break through next season and be a No. 5, 6 or 7 seed. Not many are projecting MU to be that good, but a lot of guys return.

[wadesworld]

Pretty fair. He was left nothing in the cupboard and took no shortcuts in trying to fill it. But we have a lot of talent and great balance heading into next season. Exciting time.

[NickelDimer]

Wojo is already an A recruiter and that is obviously half the battle. As a head coach he’s still young and learning. If he can match his coaching ability to his recruiting ability watch out

[VegasWarrior77]

If Wojo can continue the upward trajectory in recruiting I think we will see his coaching improve also...

[Floorslapper]

Pretty fair. He was left nothing in the cupboard and took no shortcuts in trying to fill it. But we have a lot of talent and great balance heading into next season. Exciting time.

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[naginiF]

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Thank you!  the over/under for you turning this into the same tired argument as the "Take it to the bank" thread and countless others was 10 posts.  I won $40 off your predictable posting over generations of user names.

Edit: also, i agree with the B rating.  I, like others, assume/see evidence that Wojo is building the program to be sustainable and is being graded in an 'immediate satisfaction' world.

[wadesworld]

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[mr.MUskie]

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[tower912]

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[Herman Cain]

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I agree with this analysis.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

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[barfolomew]

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[MU82]

From: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-moves-grading-2014s-biggest-hires-four-years-into-the-job/

Grade: B

The Golden Eagles have made one NCAA Tournament (2017) in four seasons under Wojo, who has a 73-59 record. This is the Duke alumnus' first go of it as a head coach. Wojciechowski's done a solid job, but it's a letdown when you contrast with Virginia Tech's situation above. How so? Whereas Virginia Tech seldom makes the NCAA Tournament (and with Williams making back-to-back Dances, it bumps up his grade), Marquette has a much better history.

The Eagles have made only one NCAA Tournament in the past four years. The last time the school had this kind of "drought" under one coach was from 1989-1993, when it took Kevin O'Neill four years to make his first NCAA Tournament. Personally, I think Marquette is a sneaky candidate to break through next season and be a No. 5, 6 or 7 seed. Not many are projecting MU to be that good, but a lot of guys return.

Hard to argue with this.

Next year is huge for the program.

[GooooMarquette]

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[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Hard to argue with this.

Next year is huge for the program.

[#UnleashSean]

That was the most negative review for a B I've ever seen.

[DCHoopster]

Wojo is already an A recruiter and that is obviously half the battle. As a head coach he’s still young and learning. If he can match his coaching ability to his recruiting ability watch out

This will be the big question mark next year, how to use 12 players correctly?  I think Bailey will have to get sometime to keep him happy?
He is older, then again he maybe like Froling and not deserve anytime or maybe one of the best players on the time?  That would make MU
real interesting next year, Stan seems to love him, has a good family pedigree and the 2 years off he has put on some weight as he was Cain
skinny.

[Daniel]

The question is, has the program turned the rebuilding corner now, and can we expect sustained performance from this point forward.   We will see.  But looking good.

[willie warrior]

Wojo is already an A recruiter and that is obviously half the battle. As a head coach he’s still young and learning. If he can match his coaching ability to his recruiting ability watch out

Riiiggghhhttt... "Still young and learning.." Lets see, he spent what.. about 15 years "learning" at the elite level of Duke and is in his 40's. I would submit that his learning curve should have been achieved well before now. But that is OK, get this one cued up in the EXCUSE LIST so if necessary, it can be called out later.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Hard to defend Wojo on some areas of coaching, there is no doubt on this in my mind.  With that said his roster has been defensively inept regardless of scheme and no number of years as an assistant can fully prepare a guy to be head coach.  Absolutely entirely different. Every head coach was arguably and at least in some peoples eyes an exemplary assistant in fact the best assitant available and warranted the job. Yet most fail. 
All that said Wojos recruiting has even better than i could imagine .  IMO its gonna be really interesting to see what he does with this 2019 class if he gets some of the current targets we will have an absolutely incredibly highly rated roster. Really good times potentially ahead. 🍆

[wadesworld]

Riiiggghhhttt... "Still young and learning.." Lets see, he spent what.. about 15 years "learning" at the elite level of Duke and is in his 40's. I would submit that his learning curve should have been achieved well before now. But that is OK, get this one cued up in the EXCUSE LIST so if necessary, it can be called out later.

Haven’t gotten your Mazos burger in you yet today Willie? Your exceptionally crabby today, even by your standards.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Riiiggghhhttt... "Still young and learning.." Lets see, he spent what.. about 15 years "learning" at the elite level of Duke and is in his 40's. I would submit that his learning curve should have been achieved well before now. But that is OK, get this one cued up in the EXCUSE LIST so if necessary, it can be called out later.

Wee willie whines weekends

[willie warrior]

Haven’t gotten your Mazos burger in you yet today Willie? Your exceptionally crabby today, even by your standards.

Crabby---really? Nothing like stating facts about Wojo and learning, which he had quite a bit before he arrived at MU. Don't see how that is crabby. Your standards may need adjustment.

[wadesworld]

Crabby---really? Nothing like stating facts about Wojo and learning, which he had quite a bit before he arrived at MU. Don't see how that is crabby. Your standards may need adjustment.

Go get yourself a burger bud. You’ll feel better.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Willie sounds constipated again

[MU82]

willie is completely joyless.

It must be a difficult way to go through life.

[willie warrior]

Go get yourself a burger bud. You’ll feel better.

Thank you. Had a burger yesterday. It was great and I love burgers. Better than Arby's, although their sandwiches are good too. But it is obvious that if the excuse for Wojo is that he is still learning, with his pedigree, then if you accept that, give him a lifetime contract to keep learning.

[We R Final Four]

yes, we know............Mazos burger.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Thank you. Had a burger yesterday. It was great and I love burgers. Better than Arby's, although their sandwiches are good too. But it is obvious that if the excuse for Wojo is that he is still learning, with his pedigree, then if you accept that, give him a lifetime contract to keep learning.

Why is saying Wojo is still learning an excuse? I would think that all coaches are still learning. You either keep learning or get left behind.

[jutaw22mu]

From: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-moves-grading-2014s-biggest-hires-four-years-into-the-job/

Grade: B

The Golden Eagles have made one NCAA Tournament (2017) in four seasons under Wojo, who has a 73-59 record. This is the Duke alumnus' first go of it as a head coach. Wojciechowski's done a solid job, but it's a letdown when you contrast with Virginia Tech's situation above. How so? Whereas Virginia Tech seldom makes the NCAA Tournament (and with Williams making back-to-back Dances, it bumps up his grade), Marquette has a much better history.

The Eagles have made only one NCAA Tournament in the past four years. The last time the school had this kind of "drought" under one coach was from 1989-1993, when it took Kevin O'Neill four years to make his first NCAA Tournament. Personally, I think Marquette is a sneaky candidate to break through next season and be a No. 5, 6 or 7 seed. Not many are projecting MU to be that good, but a lot of guys return.

I think this is a fair assessment.  I am really looking forward to this season. I think Wojo will put it all together and this team will be a second weekend NCAA tourney team this year.  Will miss Rowsey, but I am excited to see what Morrow, Hauser II, and Chartouny will add.  Plus Greg Elliot, Sam, and Jamal fully healed.

[wojoswarrior]

Don't you know by now that Willie knows everything there is to know about basketball and coaching?  For him there's nothing more to know! That's why he's making millions of dollars a year coaching a Power 5 basketball team! Oh wait, he's not is he!

[Marcus92]

A few facts:

Wojo is 41 years old, with 4 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.

Dave Leitao is 57, with 12 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Jay Wright is 56, with 24 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Patrick Ewing is 55, with 1 season of Division I head coaching experience.
Chris Mullen is 54, with 3 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Greg McDermott is 53, with 18 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Ed Cooley is 48, with 12 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Kevin Willard is 43, with 11 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
LaVall Jordan is 39, with 2 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Travis Steele is 36, with 0 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.

The fact is that Wojo is the 3rd youngest head coach in the Big East.

The fact is that Wojo has less experience as a Division I head coach than all but 4 first-time head coaches hired in the past 3 years. Only one of those 4 coaches (Jordan) has ever taken his team to the NCAA tournament. That coach has won just 1 postseason game.

Based on the above, it's fair and accurate to say that Wojo is young and learning. That's not an excuse or a justification. Simply reality.

[willie warrior]

A few facts:

Wojo is 41 years old, with 4 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.

Dave Leitao is 57, with 12 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Jay Wright is 56, with 24 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Patrick Ewing is 55, with 1 season of Division I head coaching experience.
Chris Mullen is 54, with 3 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Greg McDermott is 53, with 18 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Ed Cooley is 48, with 12 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Kevin Willard is 43, with 11 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
LaVall Jordan is 39, with 2 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.
Travis Steele is 36, with 0 seasons of Division I head coaching experience.

The fact is that Wojo is the 3rd youngest head coach in the Big East.

The fact is that Wojo has less experience as a Division I head coach than all but 4 first-time head coaches hired in the past 3 years. Only one of those 4 coaches (Jordan) has ever taken his team to the NCAA tournament. That coach has won just 1 postseason game.

Based on the above, it's fair and accurate to say that Wojo is young and learning. That's not an excuse or a justification. Simply reality.

About 15 years "learning" coaching at the most elite program in the country eliminates that half baked reality.

[willie warrior]

Why is saying Wojo is still learning an excuse? I would think that all coaches are still learning. You either keep learning or get left behind.

Knew that lame argument would come up. Of course learning is important, but to paint it in the context that Wojo is some novice is just plain bullcrap. Over a decade at the most elite BB program in the country loses that excuse, which many like to offer for Wojo's mediocre success. And that prior experience is what got him hired in the first place.

[wadesworld]

Knew that lame argument would come up. Of course learning is important, but to paint it in the context that Wojo is some novice is just plain bullcrap. Over a decade at the most elite BB program in the country loses that excuse, which many like to offer for Wojo's mediocre success. And that prior experience is what got him hired in the first place.

So you think being an assistant coach and being a head coach are no different?  That if you are an assistant at a top program the transition to being a head coach is seamless?  Interesting take there willie.

[Goose]

Wades

KO and TC did quite well making transition. Plus they had less assistant experience. It really does come down to this and next year for Wojo. Hope he hits it out of the park.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

So you think being an assistant coach and being a head coach are no different?  That if you are an assistant at a top program the transition to being a head coach is seamless?  Interesting take there willie.

Wojo is a head coach of an institution that aspires to play basketball at the highest level.  All the rest doesn’t matter. At least that’s the way it works where I have been employed. 

[MU82]

Wades

KO and TC did quite well making transition. Plus they had less assistant experience. It really does come down to this and next year for Wojo. Hope he hits it out of the park.

I don't want to hijack this thread by turning it into another "who had it tougher" thing, so I won't.

But by record and by NCAA appearances, KO was no more successful than Wojo in each coach'es first four years.

In KO's fifth season, he and his lads pulled off that wonderful upset of Kentucky to reach the Sweet 16, a game I remember very fondly. KO then used that as his ticket out of town.

So yes, I do hope that Wojo replicates (at least) KO's 5th-season success. But I hope that he sticks around.

TC obviously was well ahead of Wojo through four seasons, as Year 4 was a 3 seed and a Final Four. Of course, his team then regressed to NIT status despite having 2 future NBA players.

[WarriorDad]

About 15 years "learning" coaching at the most elite program in the country eliminates that half baked reality.

Shouldn't people always be learning in their craft?