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Agreed, seemed like a very reasonable trade for both sides. Buying the two decent prospects for the cost of Bradley makes sense. Renfroe should do well in Milwaukee at a reasonable price in 2022, and then we’ll see if they tender him in 2023 knowing it’ll cost above $10 mil.
Hahah, I like how the Cy Young is a bit more accolades. Haha. Its pretty funny, he is comparable in that he isn't really comparable at all, at least to Ray.Stroman for the most part is pretty consistent. He isn't going to K a bunch of guys or BB a bunch of guys, but he is going to give you good innings and a pretty good ERA and a chance to win most of the games he pitches. Ray gives you a much higher ceiling as a pitcher. He clearly has the stuff to dominate (as evidenced by winning a Cy Young pitching for the Blue Jays). But he can also be terrible. He is going to strike out a ton more guys, and walk a ton more guys. If he is the guy he was last year then his deal is a great deal. If he is the guy he was in 2020, its a terrible deal. If he is the guy he was in 2019, its an overpay, but not quite hideous. So in the end, its funny that they are a bit comparable, because their results are so completely different.
Sweet deal for JBJ too. He gets his contract and gets to go back to where he'd rather be anyway. I wonder if the Sox think they can probably get a little more out of him than the Brewers did. Heck, if he has his typical 3 week Willie Mays run like he's had every season except for 2021, his overall numbers wouldn't look so bad.
Totally agree with you, JBJ probably will feel a sense of "going home" back to Boston. He's not going to be an All Star, but you're right, the Red Sox most likely value JBJ more than any other team would because they know him.I think it's a great deal for the Brewers too. Renfroe is exactly the type of player from a production/salary standpoint that fits what they need. I'd rather pay Renfroe $7.5 - $8 mil (whatever final number he'll get in arb) than Avi Garcia at $12 mil (or if they would have given Garcia the QO).
I meant a bit collectively cause Gausman was an All Star. But Stroman had a better season in 2021 than when he was an All Star a few years back as well as when he finished in the top 10 for the Cy Young.Stroman has a career WAR of 18.1 and a WHIP of 1.26, only 1 season of a WAR under 1.5 since he became a regular starter. Ray has a career WAR of 15.1, a WHIP of 1.32, and literally 2 seasons OVER 1.5 WAR, 2021 and 2017.Stroman has had a better overall career by those metrics and arguably more potential for consistent production over a 5 year period. Ray had a really good 2021 but he wasn't some unreal world beater.Gausman for comparison, 16.9 WAR, 1.29 WHIP.None of these guys are a DeGrom, Kershaw, Verlander, Scherzer type. But I think they all project pretty similarly over a 5 year span. Its not like Ray was knocking on the door of Cy Young's before he finally got through. It was kind of out of nowhere. Interestingly, none of the 3 have had any post season experience since their early-mid 20s.
Yeah, I pretty much agree, which is why I said Stroman is more consistent. He has clearly been better than Ray over his career to this point. But what Ray did last season was next level. If he keeps that up, he could really our perform his contract, and Stroman. Of the three, Stroman would have been the last one I wanted, but I also think he is the most likely to deliver what you expect.
The prospects aren't nothing, but it opens up $2MM this year, and if Renfroe has another good year the Brewers should have to pay him about what they would have had to pay JBJ not to play for them.
Thats fair. I just don't see any trend or history to support that with Ray. But we'll see.
Rob Manfred being the same jerk that he always is. Within minutes of the lockout, all player likenesses were removed from all MLB sites.
A 7 minute meeting?No way this season starts before May.
Gil Hodges, Jim Kaat, Minnie Miñoso and Tony Oliva were elected by the Golden Days Era Committee, which considered a 10-person ballot comprised of candidates whose primary contribution to the game came from 1950-69.
The old-folks committee just put a bunch of guys in the Hall of Fame ...Six candidates earned election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame on Sunday via the Eras Committee process, it was announced today on MLB Network.Gil Hodges, Jim Kaat, Minnie Miñoso and Tony Oliva were elected by the Golden Days Era Committee, which considered a 10-person ballot comprised of candidates whose primary contribution to the game came from 1950-69.Bud Fowler and Buck O’Neil were elected by the Early Baseball Era Committee, which considered a 10-person ballot of candidates whose primary contribution the game came prior to 1950.
I was rooting for Minoso, Allen and O'Neil. Hodges and O'Neil are of an interesting type that doesn't get recognized by the Hall too much. Guys who were very good but not quite Hall of Fame players who made other contributions (manager of the 69 Mets for Hodges, Negro Leagues Manager, first black MLB coach and scout and all-around ambassador for the game for O'Neil). I was rooting for O'Neil just because of Ken Burns documentary and everything I've read about him. He seems to be a genuinely wonderful guy.It is just terrible that Minoso and O'Neil, who lived to be 89 and 95, respectively, got elected after they passed away and couldn't enjoy their election. Minoso missed a few MLB seasons on the front end of his career due to segregation and that may have cost him an earlier election.Happy for Kaat and Oliva that they will get to enjoy being HOFers while still here on Earth. Both border line guys (Oliva because of shortened career due to knees and Kaat being more of a complier than a great pitcher in his peak), but not bad selections and I am happy for them.Allen was hurt by playing in a pitcher dominated era that make his numbers look less impressive than they actually were, coupled with a relatively short career. I thought for sure he was going in this year.
I think its because in the absence of a CBA, they aren't allow to use their likeness. But regardless, this is really such a non-issue.It's just posturing. Nothing is going to happen without deadlines.
Buck O'neill was fantastic in the Ken Burns series.
Manfred hates baseball, exhibit 382:https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1478141889765421057?t=xeUGsos5LKklXVFPeEhlPw&s=19