Next years backcourt

[GGGG]

at this point i think if tj is really good it hurts vanders time more than mayos.  i think right now todd rebounds and defends as well as vander, the offense is clear

Mayo defends pretty damn good...but Vander is a much better rebounder.  But that doesn't mean that I don't disagree with what you are saying.  Mayo bit into Vander's time when offense was needed (like yesterday).  I think there will be times next year when offense will again be a priority and Blue is on the bench.

[NavinRJohnson]

Blue needs to move on to many issues both on and off court. Both he and MU need a fresh start.

This Vander Blue talk is hilarious. Have any of  you been paying attention? The kid is going to be a big time contributor next year and beyond. Trust me, two years from now people will be lamenting his departure much as the are Crowder and DJO today.

[BCHoopster]

The best point for next year is that MU will have a full complement of players, 14 to be exact.  Playing time will be found in practice and the 5 players that mesh and play together will see
PT time.  Who wants to work hard this summer, will have a chance to play next season.

[lab_warrior]

I'd guess Junior, Todd, and Van all start, with Otule and Jamil up front. This is probably the most obvious starting five since 2008-09.

Yup, was thinking the "Starting lineup for 2012-2013" thread basically would just write itself.  That gives us a bench crew of (in order of minutes, I'm guessing) Gardner, TJ Taylor, Steve Taylor, DWill, Jamail, and Juan. 

We'll be young, but we've got a decent amount of experience on the roster.  We'll also be very versatile again, too. 

[ecompt]

The problem with Junior and Vander in the backcourt is that teams will pack it in all night since neither can hit anything outside a layup with any consistency. Mayo is streaky but he looks a lot better going up from 17 feet than either JG or VB.

[ibechillindoe]

I don't see how anyone says that Vander won't start next year.

Cadougan at point, with D. Wilson backing him up and some other minutes by Vander/T.J. Taylor.

Mayo/T.J Taylor at SG, edge to Mayo to start because he has been here, played our system and knows our defense. Jake may also get spot minutes.

Vander at SF, with Jamail/Juan getting minutes as well. Possibly Jamil, but I don't see it. Jamal might get spot minutes here, don't know enough about him.

Jamil at PF, with Steve Taylor/Juan subbing for him.

Otule starting C, with Davante equally splitting time.

[NavinRJohnson]

I don't see how anyone says that Vander won't start next year.

He will without question be no worse than second in MPG next year ((Junior).

[muwarrior69]

Buzz must have saw something in Durley. Will he surprise us like Devante has?

[Otule's Glass Eye]

I don't see how anyone says that Vander won't start next year.

Cadougan at point, with D. Wilson backing him up and some other minutes by Vander/T.J. Taylor.

Mayo/T.J Taylor at SG, edge to Mayo to start because he has been here, played our system and knows our defense. Jake may also get spot minutes.

Vander at SF, with Jamail/Juan getting minutes as well. Possibly Jamil, but I don't see it. Jamal might get spot minutes here, don't know enough about him.

Jamil at PF, with Steve Taylor/Juan subbing for him.

Otule starting C, with Davante equally splitting time.

Very realistic looking rotation

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I'd say Vander & Junior are near-locks. All this vitriol spewed in their direction is misplaced.  Mayo will probably join them, but people here seem to forget how he went MIA in mid-season. Certainly came back though.

[seakm4]

Buzz must have saw something in Durley. Will he surprise us like Devante has?

No he's going JUCO

[BCHoopster]

No he's going JUCO

Are you sure about that?  It makes total sense, should bring him back in 2014 with open scholarships are available and potential playing time as he is going to sit the next two years at MU
with Devante and Otule back the next two years.

[jsglow]

JC should see about 35 minutes next year. Jamil about the same.  My hope is that Todd gives us 30 along with VB and that TJ quickly earns those other 20. I'll be thrilled if Steve and/or Juan play well enough to get Jamil down to 31-32 during Beast play. Jamail could be in the mix too.  And I think CO/DG split the #5.

[jtrash37]

The Vander/Junior hate is ridiculous on this board.  Both have strengths and weaknesses, both carried us at times.  Did they do as much as Jae or DJO?  Nope, but they aren't seniors yet, and are going to keep growing as players.

Vander is by far the best rebounder for his size (maybe Jae), and an excellent defender.

Junior keeps the flow of our 1/2 court offense, and has great court vision.

Both will improve, and both will be key cogs next season.  We seem to forget that both (although Junior is a jr.) are sophomores for all intents and purposes.

[JakeBarnes]

The best point for next year is that MU will have a full complement of players, 14 to be exact.  Playing time will be found in practice and the 5 players that mesh and play together will see
PT time.  Who wants to work hard this summer, will have a chance to play next season.

Exactly.  Listening to this debate makes me pretty excited that we will have that range of players. Speculation or not about his whereabouts aside, if Durley is in fact a project at the 5, its nice that he's already bulky, used to his size, just needs to be given a chance to let loose.  With previous projects it was always "if they get bigger... if they get time... they need to learn how to use their size..."  Durley's been big since he was 12. The motor skills are more refined there because he's developed them with that size. 

Plus, walk on or not, it'd be it'd be interesting to see what Jake can do (outside of have ridiculous range).  He played at a high level before transferring into MQ/MU/MUBB/Marq.

Regardless.  Lots to use in the rotation, but our 5 is probably a Junior, vander, todd, j wilson, otule combo.  Summer ball can't get here soon enough.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'd guess Junior, Todd, and Van all start, with Otule and Jamil up front. This is probably the most obvious starting five since 2008-09.

Agreed, and I like that line-up's defensive abilities, rebounding, transition, ball handling (not great, but good).

The only thing I don't like is the shooting. They need to find a way to score in 1/2 court sets.

I hope TJ Taylor can shoot, and I hope Jake can defend a little bit, because I'm afraid the current starters aren't the most gifted shooters.

[GB Warrior]

Vander and Cadougan: Highest bricks per capita in US.

I quietly have high hopes for TJ Taylor. I expect him to come in ready to play, but we should be cautious - many of us expected the same from Jamil Wilson this year. Didn't see it until the later stages of the season.

I believe that it'll be Cadoughan, Mayo and Blue to start off the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor replaced Blue as he gets acclimated.

[GGGG]

I believe that it'll be Cadoughan, Mayo and Blue to start off the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor replaced Blue as he gets acclimated.

Taylor may get more minutes than Blue in games where his offense is needed, but I would be very surprised if Blue doesn't start pretty much all year. 

[RawdogDX]

Did you guys hear about Bander Vlue?  He was a top 50 recruit, he was a contributor as a FR to a sweet 16 team and then he started every game for a team that earned a 3 seed and went to another S16.
He's a lock down defender, a great rebounder, super athletic and could be a honorable mention all big east player if he improves his jumper.

Some fans of the team are hoping he'll transfer, think we have a shot at him?

[4everwarriors]

Buzz must have saw something in Durley. Will he surprise us like Devante has?

Must be the same thing he saw in Cadougan. Is Buzz myoptic?

[MarquetteDano]

Vander and Cadougan: Highest bricks per capita in US.

I think people are highly underrating Cadougan's shot & offensive ability. He will average at least 10ppg and shoot decent from three next season.

[dw3dw3dw3]

I'd guess Junior, Todd, and Van all start, with Otule and Jamil up front. This is probably the most obvious starting five since 2008-09.

Really? This year there was really only 1 spot up for grabs, next year the 2/3 are up for grabs. PG, C, PF are probably locked up. However, so much can happen over the summer with those 2 spots as I don't think anyone is head and shoulders above the rest. It will just depend on who makes the biggest strides over the summer. Todd and Vander have the lead at this point, but I think its close enough that any of combination of: Todd, Vander, Jamail, Juan, STaylor, and TJTaylor could get the nod. Not sure JFerg or JThomas will be far enough along, but we were all mostly surprised by Mayo's contributions this year. I think Vander is close to locking up a spot, but without DJO/Jae, a greater emphasis on being able to score might make him less valuable as a starter.

[Boone]

For his career, Junior shoots under 40% from the field and about 20% on 3s. Hope I'm wrong, but I think he's reached his ceiling. Don't see him being capable of averaging 10 ppg and shooting decently from 3 next season.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

lineup next year will be

1) Junior, DWilson, Blue + TJ Taylor should also get some minutes
2) Mayo, TJ Taylor, Thomas, Ferguson
3) Blue, Jones, Anderson, TJ Taylor also could play some 3, Ferguson
4) JWilson, S Taylor, Anderson
5) Otule, Gardner, Durley (assuming he's here)

[4everwarriors]

Any of you cats stockbrokers?