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Author Topic: Upsets! / Surprise results.  (Read 149573 times)

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #425 on: January 06, 2020, 06:16:21 PM »
Yep, UVA's 184th ranked offense isn't very prolific.  Then again, UVA is coming off a National Championship, which is nice.

True, but also true is their amazing defense allowed Purdue to score 69 on them....only two teams have scored 69 or more on them all year...and UVa lost both times.  No one else has even scored 57 on them this year.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #426 on: January 06, 2020, 06:20:41 PM »
The teams MU beat in non-conference are really not coming through. Purdue, Davidson, KSU, and imo USC (watched the whole game last night and they looked terrible) are all pretty bad this year. I’m not counting on any of those being “good” wins on selection Sunday.

We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #427 on: January 06, 2020, 07:04:38 PM »
We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.

Purdue is fading fast. They are horrible.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #428 on: January 06, 2020, 07:37:48 PM »
All I can say is that this Big East is really good. Seems that most everyone in the country knows the BE about the #2 or #3 conference most years (except maybe some people/kids in Madison). What Val, the BE presidents and university programs have done should be admired. Hell, look at what UCONN is doing to get back into the Big East. That speaks volumes. Kudos to MU and the rest of the Big East.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #429 on: January 06, 2020, 08:01:22 PM »
We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.

Ultimately though kenpom's letter system is completely meaningless. Where they fall in the Quadrant system are all that matters. All of those are Q2 games.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #430 on: January 06, 2020, 08:06:41 PM »
Purdue is fading fast. They are horrible.

They are expected to lose their next three games because of who they play....but they haven’t played them yet.  In terms of fading fast, what are you talking about?  They lost badly this weekend, won their previous two and lost to Butler before that trailing 62-58 with under a minute to play before ultimately falling by 9.

They have a win over Virginia and an OT loss to Florida State.

Right now they are projected in the NCAA tournament.  Maybe they are “horrible”, but that doesn’t line up with their resume to date or your description.  And yes, I expect them to lose their next three games.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #431 on: January 06, 2020, 08:07:45 PM »
Ultimately though kenpom's letter system is completely meaningless. Where they fall in the Quadrant system are all that matters. All of those are Q2 games.

Incorrect and false.  NCAA uses Ken Pom, Sagarin, etc as tools.  To say they are meaningless is not correct.  How much meaning, who knows...but you cannot say meaningless.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #432 on: January 06, 2020, 08:50:19 PM »
Incorrect and false.  NCAA uses Ken Pom, Sagarin, etc as tools.  To say they are meaningless is not correct.  How much meaning, who knows...but you cannot say meaningless.

The system and overall rankings they use. The A/B classification is nowhere on the team sheets. It's meaningless.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #433 on: January 06, 2020, 10:08:10 PM »
NBA but still note worthy.......stuff happens....even to great teams

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #434 on: January 07, 2020, 09:09:52 PM »
#18 Virginia loses to Boston College
#20 Penn St loses to Rutgers

Crap happens

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #435 on: January 07, 2020, 09:10:42 PM »
#18 Virginia loses to Boston College
#20 Penn St loses to Rutgers

Crap happens

Villanova looks like they're about to be ripped apart by Creighton.  Barely keeping their head above water.

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« Reply #436 on: January 08, 2020, 07:57:08 PM »
Pitt once trailed by 14 points, will win at North Carolina.
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« Reply #437 on: January 08, 2020, 08:01:12 PM »
Pitt once trailed by 14 points, will win at North Carolina.

Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #438 on: January 08, 2020, 08:05:35 PM »
Northwestern choked it away at IU. 1.5 seconds down two IU ball and NW calls its last TO.  Must be a Duke strategy.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #439 on: January 08, 2020, 08:06:16 PM »
Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

Wonder if old Roy will be ushered into retirement like Dean Smith, dadgum it!
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #440 on: January 08, 2020, 08:12:14 PM »
Wonder if old Roy will be ushered into retirement like Dean Smith, dadgum it!

 It'll be the 2nd time since being at UNC that Roy Williams has not made the NCAA tourney. 

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #441 on: January 08, 2020, 08:23:16 PM »
Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

Don't think that qualifier is necessary.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #442 on: January 08, 2020, 08:27:45 PM »
Don't think that qualifier is necessary.
To be fair, injuries have been robbing Roy of a couple very important pieces.  These teams that depend on one and dones  or close to that depend just on that.  Way it goes. 

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #443 on: January 08, 2020, 08:39:39 PM »
Don't think that qualifier is necessary.

What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #444 on: January 08, 2020, 08:42:51 PM »
What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

IDK but includes a national championship and national runner up.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #445 on: January 08, 2020, 09:29:45 PM »
To be fair, injuries have been robbing Roy of a couple very important pieces.  These teams that depend on one and dones  or close to that depend just on that.  Way it goes.
Wait a minute.....

With all the advantages of simply being a blue blood your cutting Roy some slack due to injuries?

To be fair.... It is a valid reason for a team to struggle. Especially at the end of a long year in the BEast

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #446 on: January 08, 2020, 10:18:18 PM »
Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #447 on: January 08, 2020, 10:28:03 PM »
Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.

How many slams did  Cockburn have for the Illini?

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #448 on: January 09, 2020, 08:38:46 AM »
Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.
Crying shame, it is.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #449 on: January 09, 2020, 10:44:57 AM »
What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

Nice one Dr. B!  I had a good laugh on that one.  Time to call my UNC buds and use that on them. 

 

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