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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: WeAreMarquette96 on April 10, 2024, 09:02:39 AM
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Not sure if there was a thread on this already but if so couldn’t find it.
So far off top of my head there is the Badgers game at Fiserv and the neutral site game vs Georgia in the Bahamas.
Rothstein just announced this is the final year of the Big East/Big 12 Battle.. hope we aren’t on the path to having to have an annual battle vs the Mountain West or other non P-6 conference:
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1778053239805546564?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
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Known Schedule so far:
- Nov. 23: Georgia (N)
- Dec. 4: Iowa State (A)
- Dec. 7 (?): Wisconsin (H)
- Purdue (H)
- Stony Brook (H)
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Starting next year, there is no P6. If you remove the B12 and B10, and the SEC is already tied to both the ACC and B10, that really only leaves the ACC or (I guess) Mountain West.
After that, it's probably the A-10 or WCC as the next most desirable, and frankly, I don't think either are very desirable. I'd tier our challenge options as...
1. ACC
<Big Gap>
2. Mountain West
<Mammoth Gap>
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3. There is no 3, no one else is worth it.
With the proliferation of mega leagues, non-conference scheduling is going to be more difficult, imo.
We’re going to get to the point where Marquette can’t duck UWM anymore
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With the proliferation of mega leagues, non-conference scheduling is going to be more difficult, imo.
We’re going to get to the point where Marquette can’t duck UWM anymore
Or Dayton, or SLU
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Hopefully they can keep the series with ND going.
I would also be open to home-home series with old foes like Louisville, Cinci, Pitt, Cuse, WVU.
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BE Big 12 battle over after next year - this is less than ideal.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778053239805546564
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BE Big 12 battle over after next year - this is less than ideal.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778053239805546564
They are waiting for the TV networks for their own conference.
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And there really is no need for a conference v. conference type challenge any longer. Just schedule the best you can.
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I don’t think there’s anything to gain for the league to do a challenge with the MWC. Good league but really a no win for the BE.
MU does a good job with their scheduling and think that’ll continue. Thought the Georgia game in the Bahamas was a creative idea.
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BE Big 12 battle over after next year - this is less than ideal.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778053239805546564
I believe the B12 is an ESPN asset. That makes sense if so. The BE v B12 never got much traction. I don't see this moving the needle. One game a year you can't control. Maybe a net positive for a program like MU.
Gonzaga anyone?
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I believe the B12 is an ESPN asset. That makes sense if so. The BE v B12 never got much traction. I don't see this moving the needle. One game a year you can't control. Maybe a net positive for a program like MU.
Gonzaga anyone?
Wrong. It’s a Fox Sports/ESPN property
https://www.si.com/college/tcu/football/big-12-conference-inks-2-3-billion-media-rights-deal-with-espn-fox-sports
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Hopefully they can keep the series with ND going.
That one is off the table. ND started a series with Georgetown and wasn't interested in continuing things with Marquette. Maybe it could come back in the future, but the sense I get is that they don't want to get embarrassed twice a year and were not a willing party in continuing to sign up for annual ass-kickings.
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I wouldn't say that Gavitt games or the BE/B12 battle are done forever, yet. There's a lot of moving pieces at the moment with so many teams moving between the Power 4. I think once things are settled and these conferences have figured out how their conference schedules are going to work, you may see these challenges resume
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That one is off the table. ND started a series with Georgetown and wasn't interested in continuing things with Marquette.
Sadly, that was Georgetown's best win of the year... in overtime.
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And there really is no need for a conference v. conference type challenge any longer. Just schedule the best you can.
From a Marquette perspective(and other higher profile programs in the BE), you might be right but some of the teams in the conference struggle to get quality non-con opponents outside of these series. That's not just my opinion either, but people within Marquette's program as well.
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Just book bad teams and beat them by 40 and we'll get more teams in the Tournament.
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That one is off the table. ND started a series with Georgetown and wasn't interested in continuing things with Marquette. Maybe it could come back in the future, but the sense I get is that they don't want to get embarrassed twice a year and were not a willing party in continuing to sign up for annual ass-kickings.
a Nike up ND’s back-side is a beautiful thing
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Any news on the teams for the MTE tournament in Milwaukee to go with the one in the Bahamas? I had heard some gossip of the Badgers, UWGB, UWM, MU in Wisconsin's version of the Big 5 bandied about but Wisconsin just signed up for the Greenbrier. Or is MU angling for the NIL tournament in Vegas?
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Just book bad teams and beat them by 40 and we'll get more teams in the Tournament.
B12 style.
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B12 style.
Isn't that ACC style?
Oh, wait, ACC style is to have a bunch of bad teams in your conference, beat them by 40 and get more teams into the tournament.
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30 game Conf schedule on deck??
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That one is off the table. ND started a series with Georgetown and wasn't interested in continuing things with Marquette. Maybe it could come back in the future, but the sense I get is that they don't want to get embarrassed twice a year and were not a willing party in continuing to sign up for annual ass-kickings.
Agreed, what was the skunk rule this year, halting the game at 20-something to 2.
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Starting next year, there is no P6. If you remove the B12 and B10, and the SEC is already tied to both the ACC and B10, that really only leaves the ACC or (I guess) Mountain West.
After that, it's probably the A-10 or WCC as the next most desirable, and frankly, I don't think either are very desirable. I'd tier our challenge options as...
1. ACC
<Big Gap>
2. Mountain West
<Mammoth Gap>
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3. There is no 3, no one else is worth it.
Even the Mountain West has all of its best players in the portal. I'm not sure they should even be mentioned either.
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Curious which road game we get in the B12 challenge. Any of @Kansas, Arizona or Houston would be amazing.
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Curious which road game we get in the B12 challenge. Any of @Kansas, Arizona or Houston would be amazing.
Arizona in the Big 12. All this crazy realignment is going to take some getting used to.
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Arizona in the Big 12. All this crazy realignment is going to take some getting used to.
When they all break away and the Big East and MU are division 2 it will be come clearer.
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When they all break away and the Big East and MU are division 2 it will be come clearer.
The next upgrade to the Al is to carpet the basketball court. Then they can use it for assemblies and bake sales in addition to Warrior basketball.
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The next upgrade to the Al is to carpet the basketball court. Then they can use it for assemblies and bake sales in addition to Warrior basketball.
Oh, I heard the carpet was just because it absorbed the bounciness of the official NCAA Tournament ball better.
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Then they should carpet the rims too.
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Won’t be in the Jumpman Invitational.
North Carolina will play Florida and Michigan will face Oklahoma in the 2024 Jumpman Invitational, multiple sources told College Hoops Today.
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Won’t be in the Jumpman Invitational.
North Carolina will play Florida and Michigan will face Oklahoma in the 2024 Jumpman Invitational, multiple sources told College Hoops Today.
Must see TV ::)
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Marquette @ Iowa State is our rumored Big 12 game. No confirmation anywhere yet so not 100% sure
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Oh you mean Marquette vs Marquette West
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Marquette @ Iowa State is our rumored Big 12 game. No confirmation anywhere yet so not 100% sure
I saw some ISU fans saying that as well - but after digging a bit, they were 100% making it up and had zero clue if it was true.
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Confirmed matchup at Iowa State.
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Baylor at UConn
Kansas at Creighton
Butler at Houston
Marquette at Iowa St
Kansas St at SJU
Xavier at TCU
Cincy at Nova
BYU at PC
Ok St at SHU
Gtown at WVU
DePaul at TTU
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The Iowa State rumors confirmed correct
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Confirmed matchup at Iowa State.
Fun!
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Marquette is playing at Iowa State.
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Marquette is playing at Iowa State.
If we get Tyrese it would be a fun return for him!
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If we get Tyrese it would be a fun return for him!
He already committed to Memphis yesterday
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He already committed to Memphis yesterday
What? No one posted anything…
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Did Tyrese commit yet? Would be awesome to have him for this battle
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Did Tyrese commit yet? Would be awesome to have him for this battle
Think he’s a Wisconsin lean
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https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1782529823245488387?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
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a Nike up ND’s back-side is a beautiful thing
Or a hand grenade
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https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1782529823245488387?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
I don't trust the internet. Anyone could have posted that.
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The Iowa State rumors confirmed correct
an excellent early season test. Very good coach. Tough venue.
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an excellent early season test. Very good coach. Tough venue.
Outstanding! Very difficult place to win. Relentlessly attack for 40 minutes.
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Outstanding! Very difficult place to win. Relentlessly attack for 40 minutes.
It’s not that hard to win there
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What of MU plays more.deliberately with a pack line defense, a la Virginia? Do you still want them to relentlessly attack?
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Outstanding! Very difficult place to win. Relentlessly attack for 40 minutes.
Lets go cow tipping for good luck pregame
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Lets go cow tipping for good luck pregame
Perhaps we should all eat some some 🌽 instead.
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What of MU plays more.deliberately with a pack line defense, a la Virginia? Do you still want them to relentlessly attack?
I think we will do just fine with a relenting defense, and we do not need to attack. If we play nicely, they will also, and everyone will have fun.
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I think we will do just fine with a relenting defense, and we do not need to attack. If we play nicely, they will also, and everyone will have fun.
Orange slices at halftime?
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What of MU plays more.deliberately with a pack line defense, a la Virginia? Do you still want them to relentlessly attack?
Sure hope we don’t play like Virginia. They’re hard to watch when they win, excruciating to watch when they lose.
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https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1782529823245488387?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
Please link to my muscoop post reporting that news instead, I was first to report that news from my sources.
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Please link to my muscoop post reporting that news instead, I was first to report that news from my sources.
That tweet was posted 30 minutes before your Scoop post :D
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That tweet was posted 30 minutes before your Scoop post :D
Wow, you have some amazing sources!😂
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That tweet was posted 30 minutes before your Scoop post :D
My reporting is not constrained by a quaint linear conception of time.
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Marquette-Purdue agree to a home-and-home beginning this season
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Still room to add UWM and UWGB
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Will this be enough to make up for our loss to St Thomas?
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Marquette-Purdue agree to a home-and-home beginning this season
Here is Ben Steele's tweet about it: https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1783156677019099552
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So we have Purdue and UW at home, ISU on the road, and Georgia in the Bahamas.
Feels like we need an additional high major opponent - perhaps in our own MTE?
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Purdue again? Does Broeker know that other Big 10 teams exist
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Purdue again? Does Broeker know that other Big 10 teams exist
Our previous meetings have been part of the Gavitt Games or the Maui Classic. Not a scheduled series.
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Our previous meetings have been part of the Gavitt Games or the Maui Classic. Not a scheduled series.
So?
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Purdue again? Does Broeker know that other Big 10 teams exist
You’re complaining about scheduling a really good team for two years???
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Our previous meetings have been part of the Gavitt Games or the Maui Classic. Not a scheduled series.
Not entirely unrelated, though, as the discussions about this H/H began at Maui, I'm led to believe.
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So much for the Gavitt Games' elimination causing BE teams not to be able to schedule high major/power opponents.
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Love the addition of a Purdue home and home.
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You’re complaining about scheduling a really good team for two years???
Yes. Marquette and Purdue have already played home, road and neutral site games in just the last 5 years. Someone like Michigan or Ohio State would’ve been cool
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Yes. Marquette and Purdue have already played home, road and neutral site games in just the last 5 years. Someone like Michigan or Ohio State would’ve been cool
So a team like Purdue willing to play us that is stable and routinely top 10 with consistent roster turn over
Is less ideal because we’ve played them
Then two programs who have been anything but consistent. Just got new coaches and dont Have stable rosters.
Let’s all be happy your scheduling logic isn’t what is being used
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You’re complaining about scheduling a really good team for two years???
We can schedule MSU, and the loser has to put Joey's jersey in the rafters
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Yes. Marquette and Purdue have already played home, road and neutral site games in just the last 5 years. Someone like Michigan or Ohio State would’ve been cool
We're complaining about setting up a H/H series with one of the better programs in the country over at least the last decade? We play UW every year. We used to play Notre Dame every year. I see no downside to this becoming an annual game now that ND isn't happening again for the foreseeable future.
OSU and Michigan stink. Those would be games where we had better cover the spread, otherwise there is no benefit to playing them.
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Love the addition of a Purdue home and home.
Me too.
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That's another benefit to focusing on player retention and continuity, Marquette is able to schedule these games because from Purdue's perspective, they a get a high-quality opponent that is NOT going to try to steal all your players. Can't say the same for many, many other options!
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Me too.
Me too.
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That's another benefit to focusing on player retention and continuity, Marquette is able to schedule these games because from Purdue's perspective, they a get a high-quality opponent that is NOT going to try to steal all your players. Can't say the same for many, many other options!
Not only that, but it also shows the respect Purdue has for Marquette's program. I think we all can acknowledge where Purdue stands in the current NCAA landscape as one of the top-10 programs in the sport, but not just agreeing to this but starting it at Marquette indicates we're a peer. There have been very few H/Hs in the past 15-20 years that started on our court. This is definitely a positive sign that we aren't just an opponent, but a peer.
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Think he’s a Wisconsin lean
I’m still waiting for Kon to request a release from his NLI to join Bucky.
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Does where it start really matter that much? Isn't it just to balance schedules? For example, didn't we actually push to start at ND so we wouldn't host them the same year we host Madison and not have a year where we play both but get neither at home?
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We can schedule MSU, and the loser has to put Joey's jersey in the rafters
And display a framed copy of the letter in the concourse.
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We can schedule MSU, and the loser has to put Joey's jersey in the rafters
Not worth the risk at all.
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I’d prefer a fresher opponent but am fine with a solid opponent. Beats playing St. Louis or Dayton
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Yes. Marquette and Purdue have already played home, road and neutral site games in just the last 5 years. Someone like Michigan or Ohio State would’ve been cool
I hear ya, but Purdue is solid. And, we’ve played Illinois home & away. Wouldn’t mind seeing us play MI State while Izzo is still there…and a double with IU would be fun… but if Purdue wants to dance, let’s do it.
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Does where it start really matter that much? Isn't it just to balance schedules? For example, didn't we actually push to start at ND so we wouldn't host them the same year we host Madison and not have a year where we play both but get neither at home?
Right? You see when we started the H&H @ Texas, it was because we respected them as a peer :P
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I’d love to see at Purdue on a weekend in 25/26. I’d love to go to Mackey and was a weekday last time.
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I’d love to see at Purdue on a weekend in 25/26. I’d love to go to Mackey and was a weekday last time.
I could be mistaken. But I thought the County that was home to Lafayette ( or West Lafayette) was a dry county.
No road trips to Mackey Arena for me.
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I could be mistaken. But I thought the County that was home to Lafayette ( or West Lafayette) was a dry county.
No road trips to Mackey Arena for me.
There are no dry counties in Indiana. I don't even think there are any dry communities.
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There are no dry counties in Indiana. I don't even think there are any dry communities.
What if I said "carry outs" (liquor stores ) only. No what Wisconsin calls Class B liquor licenses (bars). If memory serves, I think I found this out the hard way coming back from the Derby about 35 years ago.
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What if I said "carry outs" (liquor stores ) only. No what Wisconsin calls Class B liquor licenses (bars). If memory serves, I think I found this out the hard way coming back from the Derby about 35 years ago.
Was it a Sunday? Indiana used to bar alcohol sales on Sundays (excluding Indy 500 Sunday), but that changed maybe about a decade ago.
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There is no shortage of places in West Lafayette to get a drink. Beer is available at the basketball games as well.
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There is no shortage of places in West Lafayette to get a drink. Beer is available at the basketball games as well.
Great bar not too far from campus called Applebee's.
Think they also serve food.
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I know we have played Purdue a ton, but I like this quite a bit. I also like the fact we already have scheduled a Little 10 team, a Big 12 team and a SEC team in non conference for next year.
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You’re complaining about scheduling a really good team for two years???
lol. No kidding. Lots of respect between Matt and Shaka. Excellent addition to the schedule.
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Given where both programs have been the last few years, this is a solid.
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I know we have played Purdue a ton, but I like this quite a bit. I also like the fact we already have scheduled a Little 10 team, a Big 12 team and a SEC team in non conference for next year.
Yep yep yep.
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Given where both programs have been the last few years, this is a solid.
And at least for now - both also solidly in the way too early t-25s for next year.
Very likely to be a Q1 if not Q1A game.
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Marquette used to play Northwestern pretty regularly - the teams met 4 times in the 1970s and 4 more times in the 1980s. But now they haven't played each other in 30 years.
Given the proximity of the schools, and now that Northwestern seems to be able to at least compete in the sport, I'd like to see them play a home-and-home series - or maybe meet in some kind of United Center college basketball showcase.
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Mackey is a great place to watch a ballgame. Electric atmosphere and the fans are civilized. i would gladly drop Wisconsin and permanently add Purdue. I never got the Badger hate thing...
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Mackey is a great place to watch a ballgame. Electric atmosphere and the fans are civilized. i would gladly drop Wisconsin and permanently add Purdue. I never got the Badger hate thing...
Assuming you are not from Wisconsin then?
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ISU game is Wednesday December 4
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ISU game is Wednesday December 4
Big12 dominating early early early top 25. ISU currently #3.
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Mackey is a great place to watch a ballgame. Electric atmosphere and the fans are civilized. i would gladly drop Wisconsin and permanently add Purdue. I never got the Badger hate thing...
I’d like to introduce you to some ‘friends’ of mine
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Where I live, the UW alum wear purple.
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Where I live, the UW alum wear purple.
Whitewater?
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Whitewater?
Going to gues UWash
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Going to gues UWash
In St. Louis? That’s a shame.
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https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1785698768626618805?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
Stony Brook confirmed home non con game
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https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1785698768626618805?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
Stony Brook confirmed home non con game
You think we have a bad mascot
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8f/b0/e8/8fb0e85b905432c318f3726e6179fac7.jpg)
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https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1785698768626618805?s=46&t=5FASZRHgruhjFLVJKu-4pQ
Stony Brook confirmed home non con game
168 in KenPom last year but losing a ton of minutes. T-Rank projects them closer to 300 next year. Should be a cupcake
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Doing research on Stony Brook 2024-25 projections and I think we have a lot to be worried about with this one. Matchup nightmare. Could be the second buy game loss in as many seasons after St. Thomas in 2023.
Deep dive coming soon.
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Doing research on Stony Brook 2024-25 projections and I think we have a lot to be worried about with this one. Matchup nightmare. Could be the second buy game loss in as many seasons after St. Thomas in 2023.
Deep dive coming soon.
Ugh. Marquette never recovered from the St. Thomas loss. Ramsey wasn’t the same player for sure
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Ugh. Marquette never recovered from the St. Thomas loss. Ramsey wasn’t the same player for sure
You could see it all over the court vs. North Carolina in the E8. Total loss of confidence from Ramsay.
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Ugh. Marquette never recovered from the St. Thomas loss. Ramsey wasn’t the same player for sure
I'm done with Shaka if we finish behind St. Thomas in the Big East again.
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Doing research on Stony Brook 2024-25 projections and I think we have a lot to be worried about with this one. Matchup nightmare. Could be the second buy game loss in as many seasons after St. Thomas in 2023.
Deep dive coming soon.
You forgot to include our loss to Radford 2 seasons ago.
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Stony Brook? WTH?!?!? MU is doomed if they have to play cupcakes without having picked up any players from the portal!!!!! What are they thinking?!?!?!?!?
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https://twitter.com/madeformarch/status/1786409898428756451?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/madeformarch/status/1786409898428756451?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
How much more cowardly can we be in our scheduling to not get in this event? Dodging an obvious loss to UWM and what would be our second straight to St Thomas.
The gap between us and UConn continues to grow.
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What else do you want? We already have a game with Ben's second choice, Stony Brick!
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https://twitter.com/madeformarch/status/1786409898428756451?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/madeformarch/status/1786409898428756451?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
How much more cowardly can we be in our scheduling to not get in this event? Dodging an obvious loss to UWM and what would be our second straight to St Thomas.
The gap between us and UConn continues to grow.
Actually, I think we got aced out of the event because there is already one Big East team in the field. Maybe next year?
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Would be great if the front page of this thread had an updated list of all known non-con games (And dates)...
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Would be great if the front page of this thread had an updated list of all known non-con games (And dates)...
I wasn't the thread creator, but I have the second post and updated it with the current schedule and known dates.
We will also be hosting a 3-game home MTE (teams unknown).
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I wasn't the thread creator, but I have the second post and updated it with the current schedule and known dates.
We will also be hosting a 3-game home MTE (teams unknown).
Seriously on the home MTE?? Any idea when further info will be announced??
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Seriously on the home MTE?? Any idea when further info will be announced??
No clue on info. Likely to be buy level games. Duke and Kentucky each did this last season with 3 games over a week or so. Don’t expect marquee games.
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I wasn't the thread creator, but I have the second post and updated it with the current schedule and known dates.
We will also be hosting a 3-game home MTE (teams unknown).
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