Another shooting

[jesmu84]

A church in Texas. Assailant dead after a chase with police.

Tragic.

Add another mass shooting to the list.

[B. McBannerson]

A church in Texas. Assailant dead after a chase with police.

Tragic.

Add another mass shooting to the list.

How many people shot in Chicago this past weekend?  Are mass shootings only tragic, or if individual ones happen that tally up are they just as tragic?  The lack of respect for life in this country, born and unborn, is what is truly tragic. 

[Pakuni]

How many people shot in Chicago this past weekend?  Are mass shootings only tragic, or if individual ones happen that tally up are they just as tragic?  The lack of respect for life in this country, born and unborn, is what is truly tragic.

Hey everybody ... it's a lecture on the lack of respect for life from the guy who is a firm believer in public executions (just like ISIS and the Taliban).

[B. McBannerson]

We can reopen the Vegas one, no different.  The respect for people is the key.  We can't even have conversations anymore without being labeled racist, misogynist, or what have you.  The value of life continues to be diminished.

[Mr. Nielsen]

How many people shot in Chicago this past weekend?  Are mass shootings only tragic, or if individual ones happen that tally up are they just as tragic?  The lack of respect for life in this country, born and unborn, is what is truly tragic.

Very fair viewpoint.

[wadesworld]

How many people shot in Chicago this past weekend?  Are mass shootings only tragic, or if individual ones happen that tally up are they just as tragic?  The lack of respect for life in this country, born and unborn, is what is truly tragic.

Does calling mass shootings tragic imply that individual shootings aren't tragic?  I'm not sure the logic here really adds up, but then again that never stops you from marching around on a high horse.

[Jockey]

Only one common denominator in the hundreds of mass shootings.

Easy access to guns. Our country's answer? Make it easier to get guns.

I'd also like to apologize- now is not the time to talk about guns

[Hards Alumni]

People have always been violent.

Saying that its worse now simply isn't true.  You're leaning on nostalgia. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States

[Pakuni]

People have always been violent.

Saying that its worse now simply isn't true.  You're leaning on nostalgia. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States

Exactly this.
If we want to go by the numbers, we're far more respective of life these days than 30-40 years ago.
The difference is today isn't that we're less respectful of life. It's that we have easier access to weapons that can kill 20+ people in a matter of seconds.

[real chili 83]

In before the lock.

[jesmu84]

How many people shot in Chicago this past weekend?  Are mass shootings only tragic, or if individual ones happen that tally up are they just as tragic?  The lack of respect for life in this country, born and unborn, is what is truly tragic.

Um. I never said individual shootings aren't tragic.

[Jockey]

People have always been violent.

Saying that its worse now simply isn't true.  You're leaning on nostalgia. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States

Absolutely true. But.........

The 2nd amendment guarantees the death penalty for thousands of innocent Americans every year.

These violent people were not able to kill mass quantities in an instant until the NRA fought for their right to do so.

[Pakuni]

nm

[GGGG]

Very fair viewpoint.

Not really.  It is another Chicos strawman.  No one argued that the shooting in Chicago aren't tragic. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

White man kills 27 people in a church and the first response in this thread is someone who feels the need to remind everyone that black people shoot people too. Disgusting behavior.

I'm part of the crisis response team at TAMU. We have lots of students from the area of the shooting. Made a lot of calls to students to make sure they and their families are okay. Sending thoughts and prayers.

[B. McBannerson]

An armed citizen shot at him and forced him to flee or would have been worse.  Good.  I pray it isn't what some rumors are suggesting, but will wait to hear what authorities say.

[MU82]

Only one common denominator in the hundreds of mass shootings.

Easy access to guns. Our country's answer? Make it easier to get guns.

I'd also like to apologize- now is not the time to talk about guns

If this guy had said, "Allah Akbar" before he lit up the church, it definitely WOULD be the time to talk about Islamic terrorism.

But no, it's NEVER the right time to talk about guns. Not 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 weeks or 5 years after these incidents.

[4everwarriors]

Watt da fook is wrong wit people, hey?

[GGGG]

If this guy had said, "Allah Akbar" before he lit up the church, it definitely WOULD be the time to talk about Islamic terrorism.

But no, it's NEVER the right time to talk about guns. Not 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 weeks or 5 years after these incidents.

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/925495024099385344

@goldengateblond

Brown guy kills 8 with a truck: “WALLS! BANS! BARRICADES!”

White guy kills 59 with guns: “well what can you do”

5:49 PM - 31 Oct 2017

[MU82]

Yep, this was just another disturbed jerk, who this time happened to be a white male - which also is the profile for most of the perpetrators of these acts of terrorism. Naturally, he was packin' all kinds of weapons, wearing body armor, etc. Because, you know, the 2nd Amendment.

I did see reports saying he used to teach bible school for kids but also "liked" FB pages linked to atheism. Which of course will make some jamokes conclude that his rejection of religion led him to this rampage. Which I guess means I'm just minutes away from opening fire on a church, too.

What he wasn't: Anybody who could have been stopped from entering the country by executive orders signed by a xenophobic president ... because he was already here. As were the vast majority of these mass shooters. Time to kick out all white American males!

[wadesworld]

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/925495024099385344

@goldengateblond

Brown guy kills 8 with a truck: “WALLS! BANS! BARRICADES!”

White guy kills 59 with guns: “well what can you do”

5:49 PM - 31 Oct 2017

Yup.  Prior to that there were 24 deaths in the United States as a result of foreign inspired terrorism in the US since 9/11.  We could've saved at least that many people in Las Vegas had we simply not allowed people to buy items that turn semi-automatic rifles into fully automatic rifles.  But that's giving up too much of our freedom, so ban those damn Muslims!

[Vander Blue Man Group]

As I've said before, if Sandy Hook didn't change anything I'm not sure what will.

Thoughts and prayers are nice and all but they don't change a damn thing.

This country's inability to do anything about it is pathetic.

[Tugg Speedman]

Absolutely true. But.........

The 2nd amendment guarantees the death penalty for thousands of innocent Americans every year.

These violent people were not able to kill mass quantities in an instant until the NRA fought for their right to do so.

You are an awful person ... the NRA did not kill anyone, the mentally unstable shooter did. 

If the mods had a backbone, they would ban you for this statement.

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so answer this to me.  Here and some mail order catalog ads prior to the gun act of 1934.  Again, the semi-automatic rifle was invented in the 1880s so nothing has changed.  So, yes these 80-year guns look like the guns used today, they have the same lethal capability.  Guns are a century plus technology.

So why did we not have a mass shooting problem prior to 1934?  Why now?  Could it be that society has a mental stability problem? 

This appears to be too hard a question for you as you instead prefer undirected hate at the 47% of the United States that owns guns.

[Pakuni]

The Right: This isn't about guns, it's about a mentally unstable person.

OK, then let's make sure mental health care is easily accessible and affordable for everyone.

The Right: Nah.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

You are an awful person ... the NRA did not kill anyone, the mentally unstable shooter did. 

If the mods had a backbone, they would ban you for this statement.

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so answer this to me.  Here and some mail order catalog ads prior to the gun act of 1934.  Again, the semi-automatic rifle was invented in the 1880s so nothing has changed.  So, yes these 80-year guns look like the guns used today, they have the same lethal capability.  Guns are a century plus technology.

So why did we not have a mass shooting problem prior to 1934?  Why now?  Could it be that society has a mental stability problem? 

This appears to be too hard a question for you as you instead prefer undirected hate at the 47% of the United States that owns guns.

Holy sh*t...