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Author Topic: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread  (Read 91514 times)

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3275 on: April 23, 2024, 08:33:00 PM »
https://x.com/royalpratt/status/1782931428411367671?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

That is really a dumb idea. Why would Chicago even touch that price tag?

Kevin Warren's ego may be bigger than any of us imagined.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3276 on: April 23, 2024, 08:35:05 PM »
https://x.com/royalpratt/status/1782931428411367671?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

That is really a dumb idea. Why would Chicago even touch that price tag?

Friends of the Park will thankfully take care of this stupid idea.

Not one dime should come from Illinois taxpayers. I can’t wait to hear their plan tomorrow.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3277 on: April 23, 2024, 08:37:27 PM »
Kevin Warren's ego may be bigger than any of us imagined.

Courtney Cronin, who is usually a solid reporter, wrote a puff piece (another one!) on Warren yesterday.

It’s really something else.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3278 on: April 23, 2024, 08:40:04 PM »
I mean, what exactly are the Bears even doing here? This entire stadium escapade has been one misstep after another. Almost like the McCaskeys are TRYING to prove how dysfunctional their ownership has become.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3279 on: April 23, 2024, 08:44:55 PM »
Courtney Cronin, who is usually a solid reporter, wrote a puff piece (another one!) on Warren yesterday.

It’s really something else.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39974445/nfl-draft-bears-president-kevin-warren-caleb-williams

"It was early March, and Chicago Bears general manager Ryan Poles was having dinner with team president Kevin Warren. It was one of several dinners they would share during a critical two-week span, and among the main topics of conversation was what to do about quarterback Justin Fields.

The Bears have the No. 1 pick in the draft on Thursday and they're expected to take USC quarterback Caleb Williams. That meant Fields was going to be traded.

"I could tell it was one of those situations in which I needed to be close to him, and he needed to be close to me, just to be able to talk through this issue," Warren said of Poles."
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3280 on: April 23, 2024, 08:59:06 PM »
I mean, what exactly are the Bears even doing here? This entire stadium escapade has been one misstep after another. Almost like the McCaskeys are TRYING to prove how dysfunctional their ownership has become.

This is what happens when a pro franchise goes from being a business and morphs into a family heirloom.

The family needs to keep the team for the legacy especially as the matriarch is still alive, but the younger generation has little interest or knowledge in actually running it. So instead, you hire a opportunist eager to fill the power vacuum.


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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3281 on: April 23, 2024, 09:01:02 PM »
Kevin Warren's ego may be bigger than any of us imagined.
$4.6B?? WTF? Jerry's World was only like $1B. SoFi was like $5B but I think that included the land.   

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3282 on: April 23, 2024, 09:05:19 PM »
$4.6B?? WTF? Jerry's World was only like $1B. SoFi was like $5B but I think that included the land.

AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3283 on: April 23, 2024, 09:14:06 PM »
AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore
I didn't realized its been 15 years already. Time flies.

Still maybe not apples to apples, but inflations in about 40%-45% in the past 15 years. Could fairly say its twice as much as AT&T in todays dollars?

 

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3284 on: April 23, 2024, 09:24:45 PM »
AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore

Allegiant Stadium was $1.9 billion.
Mercedes-Benz was $1.6 billion.
Buffalo's is projected at $1.7 billion.

Cost isn't really thr issue. Bears can spend whatever they want. But expecting $2.3 billion from the public is quite the ask. Vegas got $750 million in public money, which was the record high at the time. Buffalo is getting $850 million. Asking for nearly triple that is ... bold?
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3285 on: April 23, 2024, 09:28:08 PM »
Allegiant Stadium was $1.9 billion.
Mercedes-Benz was $1.6 billion.

These are better comps.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3286 on: April 23, 2024, 09:36:42 PM »
I’m irrationally excited to see how they try to pull this off tomorrow.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3287 on: April 23, 2024, 09:40:05 PM »
These are better comps.
So adjusting for inflation and market, easily 2x as much as other NFL stadiums. Also, SoFi also includes a music venue, not just a stadium and they had to sink about 100' due to LAX.

Maybe the McCaskey's and Halas' get $1B in "management fees"?   ;)
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3288 on: April 23, 2024, 09:42:00 PM »
I’m irrationally excited to see how they try to pull this off tomorrow.
Me too.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3289 on: April 23, 2024, 10:05:33 PM »
Just the Bears doing Bearsy things.

And to Sultan’s point about Warren’s ego - just wow.

As a Packer fan, I expect the usual from the Bears.

As a side note, does any city in America have a worse set of professional sports team owners?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3290 on: April 23, 2024, 11:34:49 PM »
Couldn't they have basked in the joy of getting Caleb Williams for one day before announcing to the world they're going to get relegated to Schaumburg?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3291 on: April 24, 2024, 06:45:15 AM »
So adjusting for inflation and market, easily 2x as much as other NFL stadiums. Also, SoFi also includes a music venue, not just a stadium and they had to sink about 100' due to LAX.

Maybe the McCaskey's and Halas' get $1B in "management fees"?   ;)

To be fair, the stadium listed price tag was $3.2B, the additional money is for infrastructure improvements.  So not necessarily 2X, but still pricey.

And lets be honest, its not the McCaskeys pocketing extra cash, its the Chicago Machine.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3292 on: April 24, 2024, 09:01:35 AM »
To be fair, the stadium listed price tag was $3.2B, the additional money is for infrastructure improvements.  So not necessarily 2X, but still pricey.

And lets be honest, its not the McCaskeys pocketing extra cash, its the Chicago Machine.
Not sure about the other stadiums discussed, but SoFi's cost included infrastructure also. I'd assume the others have infrastructure included but not certain about that.

I'm okay if the Daley family gets a little piece, it would make it feel 'right' in Chicago. :D

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3293 on: April 24, 2024, 12:17:31 PM »
This presser has started out hitting every Kevin Warren point imaginable.

I don’t want this to get political, but Brandon Johnson & Warren we’re made to be BFF’s.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3294 on: April 24, 2024, 12:21:26 PM »
Warren started the presser off with a prayer asking for wins and a stadium.

Can’t make this stuff up.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3296 on: April 24, 2024, 12:23:55 PM »
Warren started the presser off with a prayer asking for wins and a stadium.

Can’t make this stuff up.

I'm not  sure God could salvage the Bears at this point.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3297 on: April 24, 2024, 12:25:37 PM »
I'm not  sure God could salvage the Bears at this point.

I think God especially hates men who wear pink fingernail polish.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3298 on: April 24, 2024, 01:09:47 PM »
This presser has started out hitting every Kevin Warren point imaginable.

I don’t want this to get political, but Brandon Johnson & Warren we’re made to be BFF’s.

https://x.com/BenBradleyTV/status/1783164958319968265

Lol

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3299 on: April 24, 2024, 01:22:49 PM »
Just move them to Gary and get it over with
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

 

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