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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Lighthouse 84 on January 15, 2018, 09:52:48 PM

Title: SOTG
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 15, 2018, 09:52:48 PM
1.   Sam. He is so steady. Not enough Os in smoooth to describe his game. 
2.  Jamal. Almost went with him for his first Stud. Wow, does he have some hops. He played a great all around game when most of the rest of the team didn?t.  The kid is gonna be good.
3.  Harry. Nice to see him get some run and pull down 9 boards.
4.  Theo. Getting better every game.
5.  AR with a ton of assists. Not great but 9 dimes.

9 days of no MU Hoops is going to be tough. I hope Wojo gets them ready for the Musketeers!  Go Warriors!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 15, 2018, 09:53:55 PM
1.   Sam. He is so steady. Not enough Os in smoooth to describe his game. 
2.  Jamal. Almost went with him for his first Stud. Wow, does he have some hops. He played a great all around game when most of the rest of the team didn?t.  The kid is gonna be good.
3.  Harry. Nice to see him get some run and pull down 9 boards.
4.  Theo. Getting better every game.
5.  AR with a ton of assists. Not great but 9 dimes.

9 days of no MU Hoops is going to be tough. I hope Wojo gets them ready for the Musketeers!  Go Warriors!

Sam.  Best all around player on the team last year and this year.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: skianth16 on January 15, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
Definitely Sam tonight. Even though Harry and Theo had their best individual games tonight, Sam was still the best player on the floor.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 15, 2018, 09:55:42 PM
Sam. MU only needed one of the Big 3.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: chapman on January 15, 2018, 09:58:44 PM
Sam.  Another one where I'd like to get a 4th name up there, but Sam was better than anyone else.  Harry played really well though. 
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 15, 2018, 09:59:30 PM
Doogie
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 15, 2018, 10:00:33 PM
Doogie

+1

Without him, this one may have been somewhat in doubt.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 15, 2018, 10:08:34 PM
Thought for a while Harry might be able to get a new name on the board, but it's Sammy.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 15, 2018, 10:22:07 PM
Sammy for sure.

Honorable mentions to Harry and Jamal.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on January 15, 2018, 10:28:58 PM
Steady Sam.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Newsdreams on January 15, 2018, 10:32:21 PM
Sam
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Post by: SlowJoe on January 15, 2018, 10:35:19 PM
Sam
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Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on January 15, 2018, 10:36:10 PM
Hauser
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Marcus92 on January 15, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
Sam. Did everything tonight, score, defend, rebound. In addition to a game-leading 19 points, he had 7 boards, 2 blocks, 2 steals, an assist and zero turnovers. Stud.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Mulu7 on January 15, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
Sam
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Herman Cain on January 15, 2018, 11:00:40 PM
Sam

Honorable Mention
Jamal
Harry
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on January 15, 2018, 11:02:29 PM
Sammy
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: LloydsLegs on January 15, 2018, 11:34:49 PM
Harry as SO1stHalf
Sam as SOTG
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: wadesworld on January 15, 2018, 11:36:29 PM
The next Warrior to play in the Association.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2018, 12:03:48 AM
I know folks really want a new SOTG, but it would be silly to give it to the game's 2nd or 3rd or 4th studliest player. And the last thing we want on Scoop is silliness!

Loved a lot of what we saw from Harry, Jamal and Theo, but there's no question it's S2N.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: tower912 on January 16, 2018, 06:24:50 AM
Sam had the most complete, most consistent game, so Sam.

But Harry, Jamal, and Theo all played very well.   
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 16, 2018, 06:59:44 AM
Sam is so steady, smooth and dependable.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: CTWarrior on January 16, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
Sam.  Was thinking Froling at the half, but he didn't get a lot of run in the second half.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on January 16, 2018, 07:46:36 AM
Sam Hauser
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: KampusFoods on January 16, 2018, 08:23:32 AM
Flabbergasted every time I think about Bucky not offering Sam a scholarship.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: zcg2013 on January 16, 2018, 08:28:35 AM
Sam, but Harry is close. He is so quick to the boards and his vision is so good for a big man. This would have been the game for him in garbage minutes to throw up some shots but he looked gassed and was hesitant with his open looks.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MomofMUltiples on January 16, 2018, 08:29:53 AM
Flabbergasted every time I think about Bucky not offering Sam a scholarship.

So are Bucky fans.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: tower912 on January 16, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
So are Bucky fans.
Which makes it all the sweeter. 
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GGGG on January 16, 2018, 09:04:10 AM
Flabbergasted every time I think about Bucky not offering Sam a scholarship.


It really was one of the dumbest recruiting oversights I can think of.  For oh so many reasons.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 16, 2018, 09:09:12 AM

It really was one of the dumbest recruiting oversights I can think of.  For oh so many reasons.
But They Needed A Point GuardTM

Fortunately for MU, Bo Needed A MassageTM
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
But They Needed A Point GuardTM

I'm not 100% sure what this means because I don't follow F%cky that closely. They passed on Sam because they wanted a PG instead?

Maybe that's a cautionary tale for so many of us Scoopers who are drooling for a PG for Marquette's run to the 2019 Final Four?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Herman Cain on January 16, 2018, 10:11:48 AM
I'm not 100% sure what this means because I don't follow F%cky that closely. They passed on Sam because they wanted a PG instead?

Maybe that's a cautionary tale for so many of us Scoopers who are drooling for a PG for Marquette's run to the 2019 Final Four?
I go with the Tom Landry theory of taking the best player avaialable.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: skianth16 on January 16, 2018, 10:21:28 AM
I'm not 100% sure what this means because I don't follow F%cky that closely. They passed on Sam because they wanted a PG instead?

Maybe that's a cautionary tale for so many of us Scoopers who are drooling for a PG for Marquette's run to the 2019 Final Four?

We're set to be 2-3 solid players deep at the 2 - 5 next year, but we don't have anyone who handles the ball well consistently. I think it's hard to make the case that adding another 2/3 or 3/4 combo guy to the roster next year will be more beneficial than adding a guy with handles who distributes the ball well. If there's a guy available who is a "natural" 2 or 3 but can handle the ball better than Markus or Greg (not the highest bar there), then he'd be a great add. If we get Greg 2.0 or Jamal 2.0, then I'm not sure that's the best move we could make.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 16, 2018, 10:31:43 AM
Flabbergasted every time I think about Bucky not offering Sam a scholarship.

Thanks to Bo Ryan taking a flyer on Andy Van Vliet, Bucky only had one scholarship available for the 2016 class.  They "needed a PG and didn't want to oversign."  They lost out on all their PG targets in the fall and had another scholarship come open when Riley Dearring transferred at semester break.

Gard seems to have continued this conservative recruiting philosophy and got burned in 2018.  They have two walk-ons on scholarship after failing to land a grad transfer for this year and they didn't really seem to go after any traditional transfers as Gard saved spots for Herro and Hauser.  Gard really got left holding the bag when both went elsewhere...but hey they got another preferred walk-on on the way!

This is why I want Wojo to never settle.  Always try to upgrade the talent. Even when you have a great shot at landing Joey Hauser, take Ed Morrow.  Even when you don't have an available scholarship, swing for the fences on Quentin Grimes.  If you're teams not getting better, it's getting worse.  Get as much talent as possible.  The cream will rise to the top.  I accept some players will get passed by and transfer.  I'll wish them well and move on to focusing on the players that are here.

Win every day.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MUDPT on January 16, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
Thanks to Bo Ryan taking a flyer on Andy Van Vliet, Bucky only had one scholarship available for the 2016 class.  They "needed a PG and didn't want to oversign."  They lost out on all their PG targets in the fall and had another scholarship come open when Riley Dearring transferred at semester break.

Gard seems to have continued this conservative recruiting philosophy and got burned in 2018.  They have two walk-ons on scholarship after failing to land a grad transfer for this year and they didn't really seem to go after any traditional transfers as Gard saved spots for Herro and Hauser.  Gard really got left holding the bag when both went elsewhere...but hey they got another preferred walk-on on the way!

This is why I want Wojo to never settle.  Always try to upgrade the talent. Even when you have a great shot at landing Joey Hauser, take Ed Morrow.  Even when you don't have an available scholarship, swing for the fences on Quentin Grimes.  If you're teams not getting better, it's getting worse.  Get as much talent as possible.  The cream will rise to the top.  I accept some players will get passed by and transfer.  I'll wish them well and move on to focusing on the players that are here.

Win every day.


I think Wojo has a little chip on his shoulder with Gard. Two guys that were career assistants and now at rival schools.  Wojo has to think, "I was at Duke, no way this guy at Wisconsin should be out recruiting me or beating us in games." Hopefully it continues.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 16, 2018, 10:49:32 AM
I'm not 100% sure what this means because I don't follow F%cky that closely. They passed on Sam because they wanted a PG instead?
Yes, they were holding their last scholly for a PG, and (as I understand it) told Sam to wait until Spring to see if they'd have another slot available.  LOL.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: We R Final Four on January 16, 2018, 10:58:08 AM
How many of the SOTG were not the leading scorer?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 16, 2018, 11:15:33 AM
How many of the SOTG were not the leading scorer?

I think a couple times so far this year. At least one, where Sam had clearly the best line, but not the most points.  Of course, this year,  "leading" scorer is usually about 10+ points better than everybody else...which is also not normal.  It's hard not to deem a guy studly when we obviously would have lost the game without him due to points.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Markusquette on January 16, 2018, 11:17:09 AM
Hauser may have the most textbook, picture-perfect jumper I've seen in years.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Marqus Howard on January 16, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
Sam is a good choice, but Harry had a great game. Five offensive boards and should have had a few extra assists if everyone else was shooting like they normally do. I think he's the biggest reason we built such a comfortable lead in the first half.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on January 16, 2018, 11:27:05 AM
I think a couple times so far this year. At least one, where Sam had clearly the best line, but not the most points.  Of course, this year,  "leading" scorer is usually about 10+ points better than everybody else...which is also not normal.  It's hard not to deem a guy studly when we obviously would have lost the game without him due to points.

I think I detect an Aussie lean.   ;D
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 16, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
I think I detect an Aussie lean.   ;D

Hah, not even close...though maybe if he hit a double double.  Looking at the box...
    http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2017-2018/mugame19.html
My top 2 are Hauser, Rowsey. (9 assists!)..and then a pretty steep drop off.  Rowsey also had 5 TOs to negate his 5 steals, so that's a big downside there.  Honestly, Sam usually has a good enough line, with few mistakes, to win almost every time.  But the games he doesn't get SOTG, someone else puts up a huge points total.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
This is why I want Wojo to never settle.  Always try to upgrade the talent. Even when you have a great shot at landing Joey Hauser, take Ed Morrow.  Even when you don't have an available scholarship, swing for the fences on Quentin Grimes.  If you're teams not getting better, it's getting worse.  Get as much talent as possible.  The cream will rise to the top.  I accept some players will get passed by and transfer.  I'll wish them well and move on to focusing on the players that are here.


Totally agree with this. I don't know how any MU fan could take issue with this philosophy.

Yes, they were holding their last scholly for a PG, and (as I understand it) told Sam to wait until Spring to see if they'd have another slot available.  LOL.

Thanks for the info. Gotta love it when arrogant sumbeaches get burned!

Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on January 16, 2018, 11:40:25 AM
Hah, not even close...though maybe if he hit a double double.  Looking at the box...
    http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2017-2018/mugame19.html
My top 2 are Hauser, Rowsey. (9 assists!)..and then a pretty steep drop off.  Rowsey also had 5 TOs to negate his 5 steals, so that's a big downside there.  Honestly, Sam usually has a good enough line, with few mistakes, to win almost every time.  But the games he doesn't get SOTG, someone else puts up a huge points total.

+1
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Herman Cain on January 16, 2018, 03:13:12 PM
How many of the SOTG were not the leading scorer?
JJJ was robbed several times last year.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: tower912 on January 16, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
JJJ was robbed several times last year.

No he wasn't.   
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 16, 2018, 03:47:08 PM
JJJ was robbed several times last year.
Only in the fevered mind of a man who thinks Wojo didn't have players' backs and unjustly "nailed John Dawson to the bench". #performanceart
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GGGG on January 16, 2018, 03:49:09 PM
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE PLAYERS UNJUSTLY ROBBED OF THE VAUNTED SCOOP STUD OF THE GAME AWARD!!!???!!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2018, 05:49:57 PM
JJJ was robbed several times last year.

Damn. I must have missed those police reports. I hope he never got pistol-whipped!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: naginiF on January 16, 2018, 08:38:28 PM
Are Sam's "2 steala" what the kids are calling steals these days or a nod to his understudy part in A Streetcar Named Desire where he yells 'Stella'?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 16, 2018, 11:11:25 PM
Are Sam's "2 steala" what the kids are calling steals these days or a nod to his understudy part in A Streetcar Named Desire where he yells 'Stella'?

Hah.  I'm gonna go with urban dictionary on this one.  Steala - "An a-hole who steals other peoples swag".  With the basketball being DePaul's stolen swag.