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Title: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: wadesworld on February 22, 2010, 12:31:59 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/02/22/bracket-watch/index.html?eref=sihp

Playing Clemson first round.  Then it would be Purdue.  Clemson would by no means be an easy win, and Purdue obviously would be a very tough game, but I would take my chances against Purdue over the other 1 seeds.

I'm pretty sure we can't possibly play in Milwaukee, right?  Considering it is our own home court... If we somehow could, sign me up for this.  We could legitimately make the Elite Eight with that (again, it wouldn't be easy at all, but 2 home games would definitely not hurt our chances).
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 22, 2010, 12:34:53 PM
Can't play in Milwaukee.  MU is the host school at the BC.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: flash on February 22, 2010, 12:37:22 PM
Why cant we play in Milwaukee?
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 22, 2010, 12:39:37 PM
because MU is the host school at the Bradley center.  If you're the host school, you can't play at that venue.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: lab_warrior on February 22, 2010, 12:41:08 PM
Yeah, that won't happen.  Can't play in Milwaukee.  The reason 'Nova was able to play in Philly last year is that they seriously cut back the number of games they played at the Wachovia Center so it technically wasn't their "home court".  Since we play EVERY game at the BC, it's our home court--can't play in the NCAA tourney there.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 🏀 on February 22, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on February 22, 2010, 12:52:49 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.

I think you forgot the teal  ;)
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Benny B on February 22, 2010, 12:56:05 PM
Yeah, that won't happen.  Can't play in Milwaukee.  The reason 'Nova was able to play in Philly last year is that they seriously cut back the number of games they played at the Wachovia Center so it technically wasn't their "home court".  Since we play EVERY game at the BC, it's our home court--can't play in the NCAA tourney there.

How do you think Butler feels?  They've never been allowed to play at the RCA Dome or Lucas Oil Stadium during the first and second rounds, and those places only have a basketball court for one week out of the year.

This whole "host" school rule sucks.  If your campus is within 30 miles of an 1st Round or Regional Site, you shouldn't be able to play there, period.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: goodgreatgrand on February 22, 2010, 01:09:19 PM
I like the current set-up of the ncaa tournament. If you have a good record, the commitee will reward you and you will play as close as possible to your school. If you squeek into the tourney, you shouldnt be granted favors.

There is one loophole that Villanova continually exploits which I think is unfair. Your homecourt is defined as any place in which you play AT LEAST 3 home games. Villanova plays more than four games at the Wachovia Center during years in which the Wachovia Center is not a host site. In the years that it is a site, Nova obviously plays under the amount so that they can be eligible to play there should they make it to the sweet 16/elite 8.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 22, 2010, 01:12:45 PM
I like the current set-up of the ncaa tournament. If you have a good record, the commitee will reward you and you will play as close as possible to your school. If you squeek into the tourney, you shouldnt be granted favors.

There is one loophole that Villanova continually exploits which I think is unfair. Your homecourt is defined as any place in which you play AT LEAST 3 home games. Villanova plays more than four games at the Wachovia Center during years in which the Wachovia Center is not a host site. In the years that it is a site, Nova obviously plays under the amount so that they can be eligible to play there should they make it to the sweet 16/elite 8.

Well said.  It should not be changed... but I agree fix the Nova loophole.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: jaybilaswho? on February 22, 2010, 01:14:37 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.

As a season ticket holder... thats a horrible idea.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 🏀 on February 22, 2010, 01:16:44 PM
As a season ticket holder... thats a horrible idea.

I know, right?
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Litehouse on February 22, 2010, 01:25:25 PM
I like the current set-up of the ncaa tournament. If you have a good record, the commitee will reward you and you will play as close as possible to your school. If you squeek into the tourney, you shouldnt be granted favors.

There is one loophole that Villanova continually exploits which I think is unfair. Your homecourt is defined as any place in which you play AT LEAST 3 home games. Villanova plays more than four games at the Wachovia Center during years in which the Wachovia Center is not a host site. In the years that it is a site, Nova obviously plays under the amount so that they can be eligible to play there should they make it to the sweet 16/elite 8.

Also, the school can't be the "host school" at the venue.  Last year St. Joe's was the host school at the Wachovia Center, not Nova.  As long as MU is the host school at the BC, we can't play there no matter how many games we play there during the regular season.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: wheresthecake? on February 22, 2010, 01:34:32 PM
They must have fixed it?  It now has us playing in Oklahoma City.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: lab_warrior on February 22, 2010, 01:40:47 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.
LOL...are you SERIOUS?!
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: DCWarriors04 on February 22, 2010, 01:43:12 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.

The BC is a great venue, but they do need to adjust the way the student section is set up. Our home court advantage would be better if the Students wrapped around the court or even one side of the court like other venues. What's more intimidating to an opponent the way the student body section is set up at the BC currently or a venue like UCLA where the students sit on one side of the court and behind the baskets?
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Brewtown Andy on February 22, 2010, 01:45:50 PM
MARQPTM WAS JOKING, PEOPLE.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: IAmMarquette on February 22, 2010, 01:47:23 PM
MARQPTM WAS JOKING, PEOPLE.


But there was no TEAL! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF SOMEONE IS JOKING IF THERE'S NO TEAL?!?!?!?


/Teal
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 🏀 on February 22, 2010, 01:50:17 PM

But there was no TEAL! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF SOMEONE IS JOKING IF THERE'S NO TEAL?!?!?!?


/Teal

(http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f60/6ad/f606ad58-47f5-4488-8254-722341a4b726)

Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: ______ on February 22, 2010, 02:04:24 PM
I hope we can stay away from a #8 or #9 seed because the winner has to play a #1. Would love to see a #12 seed
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Ari Gold on February 22, 2010, 02:09:26 PM
Can I say how i don't want to be an 8 or 9 seed. I'd much rather be a 7,10-12. I'd like to make it farther than a 2nd round blowout to John Wall or any other 1 seed.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 22, 2010, 02:42:04 PM
Can I say how i don't want to be an 8 or 9 seed. I'd much rather be a 7,10-12. I'd like to make it farther than a 2nd round blowout to John Wall or any other 1 seed.

Seconded.  Or better than a 7.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: ecompt on February 22, 2010, 02:51:02 PM
what's worse is that the NCAA, in an attempt to sell tickets, will give the five-seed Badgers two home games in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Benny B on February 22, 2010, 03:03:15 PM
11 seed offers the most favorable path to the Final Four.  Without question.

6 - 3 - 2 - 1

The probability of a #1 being knocked off before the Elite 8 is not that far fetched, in which case, the path would go:

6 - 3 - 2 - 4  or
6 - 3 - 2 - 8/9

IMO, the 11 seed gives MU the best chance to get to the FF without playing a 1 seed.  Not that the 1 seeds are all that dominating this year, but I'd rather take my chances with the #3 and #2 early on and hope someone pulls a rabbit out of their Pujol.

Note - I'm not saying MU makes it to the FF, but if I had to choose, I'd take the 11 seed.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Sir Lawrence on February 22, 2010, 03:05:20 PM
what's worse is that the NCAA, in an attempt to sell tickets, will give the five-seed Badgers two home games in Milwaukee.

UW coming to Milwaukee could very well happen, but I'm pretty certain it's already sold out.....
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 22, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
what's worse is that the NCAA, in an attempt to sell tickets, will give the five-seed Badgers two home games in Milwaukee.

That won't help 'em sell tickets this year.  The BC's already sold out for all 3 sessions.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: OneMadWarrior on February 22, 2010, 03:13:52 PM
Another reason why playing at the BC sucks! We should exclusively play our home games at the Al when the BC is a host site. Also, all the seats in the Al should be reserved for the students, any leftover seats can be given to the alumni who will wait outside on a first come, first served basis.
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I hope you realize that they need the big arena to raise enough money to support the athletics program. Recruits are attracted to playign in front of the big crowd its not like the AL has the history of Cameron indoor or Butler's fieldhouse. The BC is one of the programs major selling points.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: chapman on February 22, 2010, 03:17:35 PM
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I hope you realize that they need the big arena to raise enough money to support the athletics program. Recruits are attracted to playign in front of the big crowd its not like the AL has the history of Cameron indoor or Butler's fieldhouse. The BC is one of the programs major selling points.

Do you believe in unicorns and leprachauns as well?
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: OneMadWarrior on February 22, 2010, 03:20:36 PM
The BC is a great venue, but they do need to adjust the way the student section is set up. Our home court advantage would be better if the Students wrapped around the court or even one side of the court like other venues. What's more intimidating to an opponent the way the student body section is set up at the BC currently or a venue like UCLA where the students sit on one side of the court and behind the baskets?

It will never happen becasue they need to sell the prime seats to the biggest donors to keep them happy paying the huge salaries to the coaches. They explored this when I was at the school and now it makes sense. Besides we had a 33 game win streak at home becasue of the quality of the team on the floor not becaseu of a bunch of drunks who hold up giants heads. Those players come becasue money has been invested in the program. Somethign schools like DePaul and St John's didn't get awhile ago. That is why we make NCAA's and they pray for NIT's
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: OneMadWarrior on February 22, 2010, 03:24:17 PM
Do you believe in unicorns and leprachauns as well?

Obviously you are delusional enough to believe we can compete without it. Do you also Think Marquette shoudl have a football team and join big east football?
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: MUsoxfan on February 22, 2010, 03:25:58 PM
This thread is a prime example of why I'm pro-teal
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Henry Sugar on February 22, 2010, 03:26:44 PM
This thread is a prime example of why I'm pro-teal

See, this thread is a prime example of why I am anti-teal.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: OneMadWarrior on February 22, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
Teal has nothing to do with it. I just haven't read in awhile and forgot some of the member sense of humor. The problem is I actually have heard students in the past say those exact things. I shodul have questions it when I saw the status of the gentleman makign the post. So in Short, my bad, I need a sense of humor.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 🏀 on February 22, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
See, this thread is a prime example of why I am anti-teal.

MUScoop. Where hilarious overreactions to sarcasm happen.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Ari Gold on February 22, 2010, 03:57:22 PM
MUScoop. Where hilarious overreactions to sarcasm happen.

Can we start a whole forum section devoted to Teal/not teal and how much the student section sucks and if it wasn't for greedy old alumni the students would have good seats
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: tower912 on February 22, 2010, 04:02:35 PM
Can we start a whole forum section devoted to Teal/not teal and how much the student section sucks and if it wasn't for greedy old alumni the students would have good seats
....and that the student section is so weak it doesn't deserve primo seats...
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 23, 2010, 08:49:54 AM
umm can you people please stop speculating about a final four run and just hope we get into the tournament period?

who gives a crap what seed we are , as long as we get in.
Marquette has shown how likely they are to bow out in the first round anyways to a lower seed,
personally I wouldn't mind playing a number one in the second round or whatever just so we can have a chance for the upset and now get upset by a garbage team.

we have a long way to go yet to even get a bid , so let's focus on getting in and not who we play in the final four or elite 8.

Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: wadesworld on February 23, 2010, 09:11:43 AM
who gives a crap what seed we are , as long as we get in.
Marquette has shown how likely they are to bow out in the first round anyways to a lower seed,
personally I wouldn't mind playing a number one in the second round or whatever just so we can have a chance for the upset and now get upset by a garbage team.
Wow, relax.  We won our first round game each of the last 2 years and lost to higher seeded teams.  The year before that we lost the 8-9 matchup as the 8 seed without our 2nd best player due to injury.  Alabama in 2006 was the biggest "upset" as the 7 seed.  And I wouldn't call a 3 point loss a blowout.  But that's just me.

The last NCAA Tournament we made before that?  Oh yeah, we went to a Final Four, beating 2 higher seeds on the way.

So I'm not sure where you get this idea that we bow out to garbage teams in a blowout.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: Benny B on February 23, 2010, 09:20:44 AM
umm can you people please stop speculating about a final four run and just hope we get into the tournament period?

who gives a crap what seed we are , as long as we get in.
Marquette has shown how likely they are to bow out in the first round anyways to a lower seed,
personally I wouldn't mind playing a number one in the second round or whatever just so we can have a chance for the upset and now get upset by a garbage team.

we have a long way to go yet to even get a bid , so let's focus on getting in and not who we play in the final four or elite 8.



Seeing as how the majority of this thread has been dealing with the epic issue of "teal vs. no teal" and that I'm the only one that even mentioned Final Four... I'll field this one.

1) I didn't speculate for a second about a FF run as explicitly disclaimed in my post.  I merely implied that the best opportunity for a team with an 8-12 seed to ring up a few upsets was the 11 seed.

2) I would absolutely love for you to explain how is MU has a long way to go to get into the tournament yet is likely to bow out in the first round to a lower seed?

3) As has been mentioned ad nauseum on multiple threads, if you don't like speculation, why the heck are you on an internet fan board?

[Teal omitted purposefully]
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: TJ on February 23, 2010, 09:22:01 AM
Well said.  It should not be changed... but I agree fix the Nova loophole.
And stop putting a site in North Carolina every freaking year (hosted by Wake Forest or NC State, of course).
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: copious1218 on February 23, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
Wow, relax.  We won our first round game each of the last 2 years and lost to higher seeded teams.  The year before that we lost the 8-9 matchup as the 8 seed without our 2nd best player due to injury.  Alabama in 2006 was the biggest "upset" as the 7 seed.  And I wouldn't call a 3 point loss a blowout.  But that's just me.

The last NCAA Tournament we made before that?  Oh yeah, we went to a Final Four, beating 2 higher seeds on the way.

So I'm not sure where you get this idea that we bow out to garbage teams in a blowout.

For a very limited defense to his statement - he said "bow out" not blowout.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: jaygall31 on February 23, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
How do you think Butler feels?  They've never been allowed to play at the RCA Dome or Lucas Oil Stadium during the first and second rounds, and those places only have a basketball court for one week out of the year.

This whole "host" school rule sucks.  If your campus is within 30 miles of an 1st Round or Regional Site, you shouldn't be able to play there, period.

+1
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: jsglow on February 23, 2010, 08:55:04 PM
The BC is a great venue, but they do need to adjust the way the student section is set up. Our home court advantage would be better if the Students wrapped around the court or even one side of the court like other venues. What's more intimidating to an opponent the way the student body section is set up at the BC currently or a venue like UCLA where the students sit on one side of the court and behind the baskets?

That's just not realistic.  MU is working very hard to try to increase overall giving.  We lag way behind some of our primary competitors.  The Blue & Gold Fund raises a lot of money.  You can forget about upsetting important season ticket holders.  There aren't tax dollars flowing into MU.  It's tuition and gifts.  And the gifts are the lifeblood.  I understand your point but do think of the $$.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
Careful here, glow, or someone will rip you like I was ripped for stating that endowment size translates to quality and education one receives at a university. MU's already woefully endowment puts us behind our competition.
Title: Re: si.com has Marquette as a 9 seed in Milwaukee
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 23, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Please, oh please come to SAN JOSE!!!