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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ErickJD08 on February 04, 2016, 07:06:41 PM
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So that super semi circle under the basket... Isn't the rule that you can't give the offensive foul if the player is in the semi circle? NOT, it is automatically a foul with contact. If you have position and you are in the semi-circle, it should be a no-call, right? I feel like I hear announcers say all the time something like "The player was in the semi-circle so its a foul". If you have position, you should never get the foul called against you, right?
Any rules experts, help me out...
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I don't think anyone knows what a foul is anymore just like how nobody knows what a catch in football is anymore either.
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I believe it actually means that a defender cannot take a charge in the restriction area. IE he cannot block the floor at the positioning. It's hard to put into words, but if a floor positioning foul occurs, it is always on the defender.
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It is not that a defender cannot take a charge. It is that a secondary defender cannot take a charge. You are inside the circle as the primary defender, the offensive player cannot just wrqp his arm around you and push you away. Also, seems that a player driving in passes off the ball he always gets nailed with continuation, so I think you also have to have control of the ball if you drive into the circle.
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So that super semi circle under the basket... Isn't the rule that you can't give the offensive foul if the player is in the semi circle? NOT, it is automatically a foul with contact. If you have position and you are in the semi-circle, it should be a no-call, right? I feel like I hear announcers say all the time something like "The player was in the semi-circle so its a foul". If you have position, you should never get the foul called against you, right?
Any rules experts, help me out...
I believe your interpretation is correct, but the refs seem to be calling it differently. A lot of times this year, Luke has been standing there straight up and the ref calls a foul, then points to the circle to indicate it's because he was inside the circle. I remember a couple with Traci/JaJuan trying to contest a bigger player and it's been called the same way. So who knows.
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What irks me is that an offensive player can be completely out of control coming in and if the secondary defender's heels are touching the semi-circle, it's a foul on the defense. It takes common sense out of the equation.
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Last night it made no difference. I recall one time we got the call.
Otherwise it was a charge if we had the ball and a block if SHU had it.
I know, I know,I know it was not the difference in the game, but it was still annoying that the refs were homers. If we got half (40%?) of those calls we still would have gotten our asses kicked given the inability to get a rebound, especially offensive.