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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TrojanWarrior on March 17, 2024, 08:40:52 PM

Title: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: TrojanWarrior on March 17, 2024, 08:40:52 PM
Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39755370/st-johns-providence-snubs-ncaa-tournament
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2024, 08:44:54 PM
He doesn’t want to coach in it. Players don’t want to play in it transfer portal opens tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2024, 08:56:15 PM
IU announced as soon as the lost in the B10 tourney they would not play in the NIT, ostensibly to focus on recruiting.   So, Pitino is not alone.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: TrojanWarrior on March 17, 2024, 09:08:26 PM
I believe you cannot turn down an NCAA invitation after McGuire's move. I do not know the NIT rules.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 18, 2024, 11:21:28 AM
Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39755370/st-johns-providence-snubs-ncaa-tournament

Who's Maguire?
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 11:23:21 AM
Controversial theology professor from the 80's.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 11:26:47 AM
I'm not sure I get the reference, but whatever.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: mix it up on March 18, 2024, 11:32:52 AM
Here you go young blood:
https://www.marquette.edu/theology/faculty-emeriti-daniel-maguire.php
 ;)
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 11:33:43 AM
I know who Maguire is. I just don't understand the reference with regards to Pitino.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Zog from Margo on March 18, 2024, 11:39:40 AM
I thought he meant the NIT had Pitino at hello.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 18, 2024, 11:42:05 AM
Pitino meant "Show me the money!!"
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: cheebs09 on March 18, 2024, 11:47:17 AM
I know who Maguire is. I just don't understand the reference with regards to Pitino.

Trying to compare Pitino turning down the NIT to Al McGuire turning down the NCAA. Bit of a stretch to say the least.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2024, 11:49:03 AM
Coaches/ADs turn down the NIT fairly often.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 11:51:32 AM
Who's Maguire?

Tobey.

TC is right.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1769554152475033763
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Mu8891 on March 18, 2024, 12:03:18 PM
Even with the Portal, I guess I don’t understand turning down the NIT
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: CTWarrior on March 18, 2024, 12:13:32 PM
I believe you cannot turn down an NCAA invitation after McGuire's move. I do not know the NIT rules.
You can turn it down.  You just can't go to any other tournament instead.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 18, 2024, 04:59:34 PM
Used to be a good way to keep practicing and gaining tournament experience for the following year.  Now with the portal all these teams will have so many different players it doesn’t matter.  Continuity is gone. 

The NIT would be advantageous for a school like MU that just misses the NCAA who does anticipate some continuity. 
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 18, 2024, 05:01:21 PM
Used to be a good way to keep practicing and gaining tournament experience for the following year.  Now with the portal all these teams will have so many different players it doesn’t matter.  Continuity is gone. 

The NIT would be advantageous for a school like MU that just misses the NCAA who does anticipate some continuity.

Just expand the field.  Makes all games matter
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: bilsu on March 18, 2024, 05:12:02 PM
Even with the Portal, I guess I don’t understand turning down the NIT
There are 5 other Big East teams playing in this year's NIT.
It would essentially be a home game for St. John's.
As a fan of MU, I would be very unhappy, if we turned down a bid.
It is a chance to get next year's players more experience. It also gives me more opportunity to watch my players play.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2024, 05:16:17 PM
There are 5 other Big East teams playing in this year's NIT.
It would essentially be a home game for St. John's.
As a fan of MU, I would be very unhappy, if we turned down a bid.
It is a chance to get next year's players more experience. It also gives me more opportunity to watch my players play.

I think if you can guarantee continuation then by all means play and get more experience but if you're graduating a ton of players or expecting to run a bunch of guys of then hit the portal for upgrades then don't bother.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 18, 2024, 05:27:06 PM
There are 5 other Big East teams playing in this year's NIT.
It would essentially be a home game for St. John's.
As a fan of MU, I would be very unhappy, if we turned down a bid.
It is a chance to get next year's players more experience. It also gives me more opportunity to watch my players play.

I had that experience as a senior in 1970 when Al turned down not an NIT, but a NCAA bid. The entire campus was in a somber mood. It was awful!
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Biggie Clausen on March 18, 2024, 05:40:03 PM
I remember in the Henry Ellenson year, Wojo and co. were *begging* to get in the NIT and still got snubbed.  Those were dark times.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: dajudge on March 18, 2024, 06:46:57 PM
Trying to compare Pitino turning down the NIT to Al McGuire turning down the NCAA. Bit of a stretch to say the least.
To say the least!!!
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: BLWarrior91 on March 18, 2024, 09:38:18 PM
Mike Deane tried to talk up making the NIT as an accomplishment that should be celebrated.  Luckily Father Wild and Bill Cords disagreed with him.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on March 18, 2024, 10:16:38 PM
Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39755370/st-johns-providence-snubs-ncaa-tournament

I don't care for Pitino, but he's got balls. He's proved that over and over on and off the court.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 18, 2024, 11:51:09 PM
I don't care for Pitino, but he's got balls. He's proved that over and over on and off the court.

Just like his team this year, he is a quick finisher. Some say too quick, like at MU when he just gave up a bit too prematurely.
Title: Re: Pitino's Modern Take on a Maguire Move, Blow off the NIT
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 19, 2024, 06:31:00 AM
I don't care for Pitino, but he's got balls. He's proved that over and over on and off the court.

You mean like that time they were on the table at a restaurant?