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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ski44 on January 29, 2019, 03:11:52 PM

Title: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: ski44 on January 29, 2019, 03:11:52 PM
MU opens up as a 2 pt dog @ Butler. O/U 149
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Boston Warrior on January 29, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
Tough place to play....

A top 10 team should win this...

I would take Marquette especially this year

Go warriors!
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 29, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Agreed this is the year to beat them at Hinkle.  If not now, when?  It’s not like they are unbeatable at home.  Marquette has just not done it lately. We are better and need to prove it tomorrow. 
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 04:05:33 PM
Interesting.

Most coaches don't like talking about point spreads, but Wojo definitely could use the underdog thing to get his guys' attention.

"Even though we're number 10 in the effen country, nobody really respects us!"
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 29, 2019, 05:27:17 PM
Interesting.

Most coaches don't like talking about point spreads, but Wojo definitely could use the underdog thing to get his guys' attention.

"Even though we're number 10 in the effen country, nobody really respects us!"

Heck, I would!
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Johnny B on January 29, 2019, 05:32:08 PM
with the weather who knows how many people or students will even show up.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Windyplayer on January 29, 2019, 05:46:05 PM
with the weather who knows how many people or students will even show up.
Can’t find this prop bet. WTH.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: MuMark on January 29, 2019, 09:43:18 PM
2 1/2 to 3 1/2 now........
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 29, 2019, 10:49:48 PM
2 1/2 to 3 1/2 now........

Has there been a game this season where the line moved toward Marquette? It seems like this happens every game. I don't gamble, why is that?
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: forgetful on January 29, 2019, 10:55:42 PM
2 1/2 to 3 1/2 now........

Based on analytics/statistics, this is right where it should be. Kansas lost by double digits to Texas today.

Winning on the road in conference season is hard.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: 79Warrior on January 29, 2019, 11:11:21 PM
Tough place to play....

A top 10 team should win this...

I would take Marquette especially this year

Go warriors!

Tough game, tough place to play. I would stay away from this betting this game
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: GB Warrior on January 29, 2019, 11:59:13 PM
Interesting.

Most coaches don't like talking about point spreads, but Wojo definitely could use the underdog thing to get his guys' attention.

"Even though we're number 10 in the effen country, nobody really respects us!"

Could just show them Kenpom, eh?
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Boston Warrior on January 30, 2019, 12:27:35 AM
The line is moving as McDermott is probably now playing....
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: brewcity77 on January 30, 2019, 07:49:46 AM
Based on analytics/statistics, this is right where it should be. Kansas lost by double digits to Texas today.

Winning on the road in conference season is hard.

That's the general belief, but John Fanta noted on the Real Chilly Podcast that the home teams in Big East play were just 17-14 (at the time of the interview).

If you remove MU & Nova games (as they've dominated home & away) the home team is currently 12-11 in Big East play. So basically every game is a coinflip, unless you're playing one of the.

Including MU & Nova, it's 21-17 for the home team, just a .556 winning percentage.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 30, 2019, 02:00:12 PM
Butler owns Marquette.   They've won 11 of the last 14, and the last 5 straight.

Arby's.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: LoudMouth on January 30, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
Butler owns Marquette.   They've won 11 of the last 14, and the last 5 straight.

Arby's.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/13Ev9571xt8Bdm/giphy.gif)

but yay Arby's
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: GooooMarquette on January 30, 2019, 02:05:02 PM
We got this.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: HowardsWorld on January 30, 2019, 02:10:36 PM
Butler owns Marquette.   They've won 11 of the last 14, and the last 5 straight.

Arby's.

Only game that has ever mattered between the two.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=330820269
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 30, 2019, 02:17:40 PM
Back to +2

Line fluctuating a ton, nobody knows anything about this game.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Johnny B on January 30, 2019, 02:34:21 PM
Butler 57% chance to win according to BPI % on espn
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: MUBigDance on January 30, 2019, 02:43:17 PM
I love we're rated 10 ... but were overrated at 10.

Straight up, MU is better than Butler...Butler is good...Butler is good at home...MU is average on the road (yes we are!).

If we beat Butler we will be "good on the road".

I hope we beat Butler. I think we can beat Butler...if I have to bet my house, I bet Butler...But whats cool is the Golden Eagles are full of surprises.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Johnny B on January 30, 2019, 03:25:46 PM
I love we're rated 10 ... but were overrated at 10.

Straight up, MU is better than Butler...Butler is good...Butler is good at home...MU is average on the road (yes we are!).

If we beat Butler we will be "good on the road".

I hope we beat Butler. I think we can beat Butler...if I have to bet my house, I bet Butler...But whats cool is the Golden Eagles are full of surprises.
Well were really no worse then the 5 teams ranked below us so its not really that much of an overrated team..
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Goose on January 30, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
This is a game they should win. Getting #3 seed is very important and a win here goes all long way to achieving the goal.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: BM1090 on January 30, 2019, 04:16:37 PM
Lots of sharp money on Butler.

That's usually a bad sign. But the sharps have been wrong a couple times on MU games this year.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: brewcity77 on January 30, 2019, 04:31:05 PM
I love we're rated 10 ... but were overrated at 10.

Who is underrated behind us? This is a meaningless comment if you can't provide evidence as to who is underrated. We can't be overrated unless someone else is underrated.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 30, 2019, 05:01:47 PM
Lots of sharp money on Butler.

That's usually a bad sign. But the sharps have been wrong a couple times on MU games this year.

Sharps had Gtown when they thought Markus was playing.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: skianth16 on January 30, 2019, 05:04:35 PM
The over/under at 149 seems pretty high to me. Butler hasn't been scoring a ton of points in conference play, and I assume that our defensive focus will be back tonight after some higher scoring games lately. Slowing it down seems like a logical way to control the game on the road.

Any other takers on the under?
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: BM1090 on January 30, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
Sharps had Gtown when they thought Markus was playing.

Yes they did. Also had X and Creighton to a lesser extent. On the flipside, they also had SJU and Indiana.
Title: Re: MU (+2) @ Butler
Post by: Johnny B on January 30, 2019, 05:13:37 PM
This line makes sense... I get the metrics and the systems in place. But I mean at the Same time is ridiculous. The 10th ranked projected 3 seed is a 3 point dog to the projected first four out team? Road or not just no respect for marquette. Silly