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Not even remotely comparable. A coach "directing a racial epithet" (language directly from the articles) at Kobe King vs. A guy who was upset because he wasn't THE guy on the team. What a load of garbage. You're either being purposefully obtuse or lack the ability to think analytically, which says more about MU than anything related to the Hausers
I think you missed some key parts of the story. The racial epithet was not directed at anyone, and I think it's been said that Kobe wasn't even present. It was a coach telling story in which he used a word that he should not have. There's a big difference between this case of poor judgment and a case of being demeaning or racist.
Quote from both USA Today and JS: "University of Wisconsin officials are investigating an allegation that a racial epithet was directed at Kobe King by a University of Wisconsin staffer."Do you have a source that it was not directed at anyone or that Kobe wasn't present? honestly asking. But even if he wasn't present, is this not a serious issue for the University? Certainly a more serious issue than someone who is unhappy with how basketball games are being played out?
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
What Denning did was racist.Denning himself may or may not be a racist, no one on this board knows the answer to that.
This board savaged Joey Hauser for pursuing wavier and alleging mistreatment (cult mentality) but is rushing to defend King and allege the S&C coach is a "racist" and quoting someone it "racism."I'm as left wing as anyone here but come on, what he did is not "racist." It wasn't even said to King.Definition of racism1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racehttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racismIf music was played in the locker room contained that word does that mean it was a racially hostile environment? The guy should have never said what he did but doing so does not make one a "racist."
Who is Denning? Do you mean Helland?
billy billy billy ohh billy-great comment! if we researched everyone who said this "word" somewhere, sometime, holy man, we would have a lot of unemployed people. many on the left have over-weaponized the "r" word and throw it around so much, it has been unnecessarily diluted. i think we as a society have established, and rightly so, what is acceptable in this regard. DON"T USE IT!! i don't know what was in hellands mind or heart when he uttered "the word" but sounds like the "meathead" part of him took over his brain. we've got to allow some of these people a 2nd chance. we do in so many other aspects of our lives. if he is a real racist, either he gets religion or his true colors(no pun) will eventually rear it's ugly head and he should be unemployed but, there! madison just showed everyone that they sure aren't racist?? can't everyone just go with the content of ones character thing and move on?
Yes, my bad. I was going off memory and thought his name was Denning for dinner reason
Helland will be given a second chance. He just isn't owed that second chance by the University of Wisconsin.
why not? if anyone or place could address this issue best and help him get a "do over" it would be right there at ground zero in madison and with UW. but if they have already made up their minds, could care less about helland and are not up for the fight, well then... there could also as well be some other underlying factors we are not aware of as well.
Telling a story, and quoting another person (who may have been black for all we know) who used the n-word is racist? Look, I agree it is dumb to do that and he should have either not told the story or substituted "n-word", but come on! Unless there were previous incidents of racist behavior with Helland, this is just an apology and promise not to do it again and move on.
Bingo.
I didn't say he *couldn't* get a second chance with UW. I said he wasn't *owed* one.
gotcha! i don't know the man nor his past relationship with the school, but in giving him a second chance, i believe it could play a nice role in developing better race relations. set an example and bring the conversation public, use it as a "teaching moment" as opposed to just trying bury it and moving onto the next "incident". we already know UW isn't racist cuz they've told us...many times
If Wisconsin had a better track record with such matters, it’s entirely possible an apology is all that was necessary.