Author Topic: State Championship Title Games Today (Read 6854 times)

We R Final Four · « **on:** March 15, 2014, 08:13:43 AM »

http://www.wiaawi.org/Sports/BoysBasketball.aspx

Diamond Stone, Henry Ellenson and Matt Heldt all playing for state titles today and tonight.

Watched Heldt play yesterday. Very thin, but can hit the mid range jumper and the 3 as well as a few nice post moves. Seems like a good fit for UWGB.

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:16:15 AM »

I saw Henry Ellenson yesterday. He had a very quiet 20+ points but was an absolute monster on the boards. now granted, Greendale was not very big at all, but Ellenson was impressive. Had over 20 pts and 20+ boards. He handles the ball well and has a pure looking jump shot. Initially he was playing more on the perimeter and wasn't very effective, but when he got down on the low block, he dominated. He was the difference in the win over Greendale. Reminds me a little of Jamil Wilson, but better.

On a side note, I can't understand why Greendale PG Jordan Perez does not have a D-1 scholarship. Currently has a full ride to Minnesota-Duluth but is holding out for a D1 scholarship. If I'm UWM or UWGB I take a long hard look at this kid as he has all the intangibles for a PG... size, athleticism, heart, good basketball IQ and ability to take over a game.

mileskishnish72 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:53:05 AM »

With those qualities, maybe even a school closer to home would take a look.

Earl Tatum · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2014, 11:00:46 AM »

Saw Ellenson play in Marshfield. VERY GOOD PLAYER. Plays with knowledge of the game. Physical also.
Can shoot. Team Player. 1 Ellenson, 2 Stone 3 Noskowiak 4 Schwartz 4 Heldt. Schwartz didn't look to good on TV.

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2014, 11:44:45 AM »

Ellenson is impressive but no way is he better than Stone. Stone has the potential to be the best center ever to come out of Wisconsin. Way more upside

Tums Festival · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2014, 01:03:51 PM »

For those of us living outside of Wisconsin, please keep us posted on how these games go. Also, how are/have Cohen and Noskowiak's teams fared in the state tourney and how have they themselves looked?

Nukem2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2014, 02:23:44 PM »

Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 15, 2014, 01:03:51 PM

For those of us living outside of Wisconsin, please keep us posted on how these games go. Also, how are/have Cohen and Noskowiak's teams fared in the state tourney and how have they themselves looked?

Both lost in sectional finals. Both played very well. Cohen had 26 in the loss and had 41 in a previous game. Nick was scoring in the 20s and led his team to the sectional final.

Earl Tatum · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:55:19 PM »

Mayo---Agreed Stone has all the potential, but for now Ellenson's all-around game is better. Doesn't look like it against Wisco Lutheran. Handles the ball quite well though.

hairy worthen · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2014, 08:24:45 PM »

Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 15, 2014, 07:55:19 PM

Mayo---Agreed Stone has all the potential, but for now Ellenson's all-around game is better. Doesn't look like it against Wisco Lutheran. Handles the ball quite well though.

Ellenson has Wisconsin written all over him as far as the type of game he plays. He would fit perfectly there, would still like to see him at mu. Stone almost had a quadruple double 2 games in a row so he has a pretty good overall game as well. Really not the same type of players so not a good comparison between the two

Jay Bee · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2014, 08:31:17 PM »

Quote from: hairyworthen on March 15, 2014, 08:24:45 PM

Ellenson has Wisconsin written all over him as far as the type of game he plays. He would fit perfectly there, would still like to see him at mu. Stone almost had a quadruple double 2 games in a row so he has a pretty good overall game as well. Really not the same type of players so not a good comparison between the two

Henry is too versatile for Becky.

hairy worthen · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2014, 08:38:41 PM »

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 15, 2014, 08:31:17 PM

Henry is too versatile for Becky.

he is versatile. But when you watch him he looks like every other Wisconsin big and no I am not talking about "traditional"

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:00:26 PM »

Quote from: hairyworthen on March 15, 2014, 08:24:45 PM

Ellenson has Wisconsin written all over him as far as the type of game he plays. He would fit perfectly there, would still like to see him at mu. Stone almost had a quadruple double 2 games in a row so he has a pretty good overall game as well. Really not the same type of players so not a good comparison between the two

The Rice Lake fans we talked to say he wants to leave wisconsin and sparty leads for Henry with Creighton being a real player... They say he sees himself as another McDermott.

When comparing the two right now... Henry plays hard. Diamond makes it look easy. Often plays too laid back, but when his motor is high there is no comparison IMHO. Diamond blocked everything while looking like he wasn't trying. Diamond is also an incredible passer. Haven't seen a big pass as well as him in a long time

hairy worthen · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:08:36 PM »

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on March 15, 2014, 09:00:26 PM

The Rice Lake fans we talked to say he wants to leave wisconsin and sparty leads for Henry with Creighton being a real player... They say he sees himself as another McDermott.

When comparing the two right now... Henry plays hard. Diamond makes it look easy. Often plays too laid back, but when his motor is high there is no comparison IMHO. Diamond blocked everything while looking like he wasn't trying. Diamond is also an incredible passer. Haven't seen a big pass as well as him in a long time

Love to see him at Creighton. Away from Becky is good.

You nailed it on stone. He looks lanky. Once his body fills out he will be even better.

MUEng92 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:14:44 PM »

Here's hoping Stone plays four more games on the Kohl Center court in his life. 2 in next year's state tourney and 2 in college

Dawson Rental · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2014, 11:30:13 PM »

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 15, 2014, 09:53:05 AM

With those qualities, maybe even a school closer to home would take a look.

He didn't say he had a three point shot.

Dawson Rental · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2014, 11:34:29 PM »

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on March 15, 2014, 09:00:26 PM

The Rice Lake fans we talked to say he wants to leave wisconsin and sparty leads for Henry with Creighton being a real player... They say he sees himself as another McDermott.

When comparing the two right now... Henry plays hard. Diamond makes it look easy. Often plays too laid back, but when his motor is high there is no comparison IMHO. Diamond blocked everything while looking like he wasn't trying. Diamond is also an incredible passer. Haven't seen a big pass as well as him in a long time

Ellenson is the Big East would be awesome. Come on Creighton.

Tums Festival · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2014, 04:34:06 AM »

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on March 15, 2014, 09:00:26 PM

The Rice Lake fans we talked to say he wants to leave wisconsin and sparty leads for Henry with Creighton being a real player... They say he sees himself as another McDermott.

When comparing the two right now... Henry plays hard. Diamond makes it look easy. Often plays too laid back, but when his motor is high there is no comparison IMHO. Diamond blocked everything while looking like he wasn't trying. Diamond is also an incredible passer. Haven't seen a big pass as well as him in a long time

Ellenson is exactly the kind of player MU needs, because with his attitude he would contribute right away. Anyone coming in thinking they're all that isn't going to play no matter what their ranking is by Scout, Rivals, etc.

willie warrior · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2014, 06:23:13 AM »

Quote from: LittleMurs on March 15, 2014, 11:34:29 PM

Ellenson is the Big East would be awesome. Come on Creighton.

But...but...people here said Creighton would suck after this year.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2014, 08:00:45 AM »

Quote from: willie warrior on March 16, 2014, 06:23:13 AM

But...but...people here said Creighton would suck after this year.

Creighton will have a rough year beginning this fall. Rough.

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:12:08 AM »

Championship game numbers:
Diamond Stone 28 pts, 11 rebounds, 8 blocks
Henry Ellenson 21 pts, 12 rebounds (7 of 17 shots were threes)

Spaniel with a Short Tail · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:35:06 AM »

Quote from: LittleMurs on March 15, 2014, 11:34:29 PM

Ellenson is the Big East would be awesome. Come on Creighton.

If he wants to go away to school but retain his hometown connection, Creighton would be a good choice. Guaranteed one game in Milwaukee and one in Chicago every year for family that wants to see him play.

MU82 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:42:25 AM »

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 16, 2014, 08:00:45 AM

Creighton will have a rough year beginning this fall. Rough.

Well, at least Gibbs has 7 or 8 years of eligibility left, no?

KenoshaWarrior · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2014, 10:44:48 AM »

I loved seeing the MKE area schools whoop these small little towns. Always fun and always causes commotion at the WIAA offices

77ncaachamps · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2014, 10:57:16 AM »

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 16, 2014, 08:00:45 AM

Creighton will have a rough year beginning this fall. Rough.

Gone this year are McDermott, Wragge, Manigat and Gibbs - the four of the five starters.

Yeah, pretty rough when 63% of your total offense leaves.

Chatman (starter, 7.7 ppg), Brooks (6.8), and Artino (5.8) are the next highest ppg among the returning players.
And they'll be seniors next year.

avid1010 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2014, 02:34:25 PM »

Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 16, 2014, 04:34:06 AM

Ellenson is exactly the kind of player MU needs, because with his attitude he would contribute right away. Anyone coming in thinking they're all that isn't going to play no matter what their ranking is by Scout, Rivals, etc.

i've watched him play two games, so i'm far from knowledgeable, but i wasn't impressed at all. SOFT. if he really think he's going to be the next mcbuckets he's clueless as to what he needs to do to improve his game.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2014, 02:38:00 PM »

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 16, 2014, 10:57:16 AM

Gone this year are McDermott, Wragge, Manigat and Gibbs - the four of the five starters.

Yeah, pretty rough when 63% of your total offense leaves.

Chatman (starter, 7.7 ppg), Brooks (6.8), and Artino (5.8) are the next highest ppg among the returning players.
And they'll be seniors next year.

Yup, losing 4 starters hurts a ton, especially when they represent that much in scoring, rebounding, defense, etc. A few other teams found that out.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2014, 05:53:15 PM »

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 16, 2014, 10:57:16 AM

Gone this year are McDermott, Wragge, Manigat and Gibbs - the four of the five starters.

Yeah, pretty rough when 63% of your total offense leaves.

Right. But even more than that, consider the uniqueness of Doug (39% shots) and Ethan (low usage, but 18% shots with size).. and how Gibbs fits in.. Manigat playing out of his mind... just ultra efficiency. Truly amazing shooting.

Next year they should take a dump on themselves (relative to the last couple years).

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