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Author Topic: Needs Moving Forward  (Read 9193 times)

MuggsyB

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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2024, 02:26:35 PM »
Ben is a stretch 4.  I don't think I have seen any post up moves from him, ever.

Without knowing what Hamilton and the newcomers are bringing in, we definitely could use an experienced post up big.

Problem is, we potentially need 2-3 more experienced players next year if we want to have a successful season.

I am assuming Oso, Kolek and Kam are gone next year.  We need a replacement for each one.

1. An experience point guard.  Relying on Sean Jone from injury and Tre heading into next year is a big mistake.
2. A 3 level wing scorer.  If Kam is gone, need a like replacement for him.  A Bj Freeman type of portal transfer.
3. An experienced low post scorer.  Relying on Hamilton or Al is a giant mistake.  Heck we needed one this year.  Biggest mistake Shaka made all year.

Ben has star potential but yes, more of a stretch 4.

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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2024, 03:24:00 PM »
It'll be interesting to see what comes of it for him at Duke. They keep recruiting forwards over him. Lotta competition for minutes.



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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2024, 03:26:34 PM »
Doc,

Kon will be just fine at Duke. I wish that wasn’t the case, but the kid can play ball.

MuggsyB

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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2024, 03:28:46 PM »
Goose,

Do I need to unload some stock so we can get some impact ballers?  Is there an NIL cap? 

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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2024, 03:31:22 PM »
Muggsy

Unlike many on here, I have zero concern about MU having the money. I possibly would spend it differently, but it appears they have a well thought plan a using discipline. Again, I do not think we need to worry about them having the cash needed.

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2024, 03:31:37 PM »
Marquette played an entire year with 6-6 Lazar Hayward at the 5.  Ben Gold is 6-11.

Some people worry too much about traditional positions.

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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2024, 03:40:27 PM »
Man, da elephant in da room is ya need shootas. In spite of poor reboundin', multiple playas are desperately needed who can be counted on to score the ball. BTW, Gold ain't 'nough. I realize not every homegrown talent lives and dies wantin' ta hoop for good old MU. But, Kon who's signed with Dook woulda bin a purfect addition, hey?


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MuggsyB

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Re: Needs Moving Forward
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2024, 03:53:24 PM »
Muggsy

Unlike many on here, I have zero concern about MU having the money. I possibly would spend it differently, but it appears they have a well thought plan a using discipline. Again, I do not think we need to worry about them having the cash needed.

Goose,

In a perfect world what would you add if we have two spots open?

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2024, 03:54:50 PM »
I agree with this analysis

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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2024, 04:28:17 PM »
Muggsy

I am the wrong guy to answer that. I would pay a PG that can score and a wing that. A score and rebound. I am wrong guy because I would spend a lot of money and that is not the current philosophy of the program.

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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2024, 05:06:35 PM »
Right now, one scholarship open unless there are additional departures.
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2024, 05:33:08 PM »
Muggsy

I am the wrong guy to answer that. I would pay a PG that can score and a wing that. A score and rebound. I am wrong guy because I would spend a lot of money and that is not the current philosophy of the program.
Not a portal guy, a decommit from Michigan that might be a fit for your first guy.
https://sports.yahoo.com/longtime-michigan-basketball-commit-signee-191356926.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2024, 05:44:43 PM »
If Kam stays, I don't really see the need for another PG. He can hold it down until Sean is back (which according to him will be late November or December).
We need some size.

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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2024, 05:47:01 PM »
You want experienced size.

Gold, Joplin, Hamilton, Amadou, Parham, Owens is plenty of size.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Pakuni

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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2024, 05:50:00 PM »
You want experienced size.

Gold, Joplin, Hamilton, Amadou, Parham, Owens is plenty of size.

Gold and Joplin are both basically perimeter players.
We have no idea what to expect from the other four, other than Owens is a wing.

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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2024, 05:55:51 PM »
Ergo, you want experienced size.   Since you are discounting the unproven size.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2024, 05:56:45 PM »
Anybody who can shoot the ball, like Spencer for UConn, or Karaban is good for me!

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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2024, 06:01:58 PM »
Shooters in the portal. Especially if Kam is gone. Joplin way too inconsistent to be out main outside shooter. Give me someone like Ben Humrichous, Andrej Stojakovic, Tyler Nickel, or someone else in the portal for depth.

Also absolutely need a portal PG if Kolek is indeed gone which I’m almost sure he is, and Sean Jones probably not being ready by season opener.
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2024, 06:03:17 PM »
Anybody who can shoot the ball, like Spencer for UConn, or Karaban is good for me!
UCONN pulling an MU at the moment...but Clinghan is just a game changer.

I think Shaka's belief is that they play small but quick and athletic...create turnovers and that is more valuable than what they give up on the glass. 

I'm afraid of was Sean Jones and Ben Gold will be next year...given what we need...hope like hell I'm wrong.

So appreciative of this team and Shaka.  We'll be back soon enough.

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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2024, 06:28:26 PM »
Marquette played an entire year with 6-6 Lazar Hayward at the 5.  Ben Gold is 6-11.

Some people worry too much about traditional positions.

And how far did that get us?  I don't recall making the final four with Lazar at the 5.

We need a player, preferably 2 that can score in the post when needed.  Ben hasn't shown a post move in 2 years he has been here.

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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2024, 06:32:56 PM »
Neither did Oso his first two years.  5 out, Ben as a stretch 5.  Learn it, embrace it.
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2024, 06:41:04 PM »
I’m pretty excited about what Ben can become. I’m surprised that’s not a more common view.

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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2024, 07:39:29 PM »
And how far did that get us?  I don't recall making the final four with Lazar at the 5.

We need a player, preferably 2 that can score in the post when needed.  Ben hasn't shown a post move in 2 years he has been here.

I wouldn't discount Ben.  The young man has a myriad of skills Papi.  And I believe he can put on some weight and be an extremely effective two way player in the next two years. 

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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2024, 07:43:05 PM »
UCONN strategy
Win a natty - go to the portal

If we want to compete we must as well

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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2024, 07:52:05 PM »
I’m pretty excited about what Ben can become. I’m surprised that’s not a more common view.

Sure, but
A) He isn't playing 40 minutes a night
B) I don't want to put all my eggs in the "Ben makes a huge leap" basket