SOTG SJU

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No doubt OMax

[tower912]

#OMax2nba

[GoldenEagles03]

PROlivier-Maxence Prosper

[forgetful]

Clearly OMax, but shoutout to Kolek for a great all around game, 14 pts, 8 assists, only 1 TO.

[Goose]

The future NBA’er.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

OMax

[mugrad_89]

When this version of OMax shows up, we can play with just about anybody.

[Herman Cain]

Olivier-Maxence Prosper

[We R Final Four]

Always the leading scorer.

Shout out to:

ig a doree
Ig o doro
Id a dora
Ig a dora
And a few I may have missed.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

OLIVIER-MAXENCE

[tower912]

I thought this was a weak game for Oso.   

Kolek is an acceptable choice, as he contributed in both halves.   

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Definitely goes to OMax, but Kolek played really well. The drop off when he’s out of the game is really striking.

[PGsHeroes32]

Obviously Omax.

But TK was really good all night keeping the offense steady as he does.

Kam with some big buckets. Jop with a big...............pass.

[Eye]

Jones and Mitchell quietly had decent games. But Prosper.

[Goose]

Kolek is unreal and he is a fxxkin winner. He will be the face of the programs turnaround down the road.He is the stick that stirs the drink.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

My fellow Quebecois.

[tower912]

Kolek is unreal and he is a fxxkin winner. He will be the face on the programs turnaround down the road. He is the stick that stirs the drink.

It strikes me that Shaka told us what to expect from this team.    That Kolek would run the team and had improved.    That Oso would have the ball in his hand more than any 6'9 player in the country.    That Kam and OMax were ready to step up.     

Kolek had a really solid game.    Maybe some more relatives came down from Rhode Island.   

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

O-Max (draft) Prospect

[wadesworld]

OMax

[mileskishnish72]

Another easy one.
Max.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Always the leading scorer.

Shout out to:

ig a doree
Ig o doro
Id a dora
Ig a dora
And a few I may have missed.

Well, the last two leading scorers were also terrors on defense.  So there's that.

[pbiflyer]

Always the leading scorer.

Shout out to:

ig a doree
Ig o doro
Id a dora
Ig a dora
And a few I may have missed.

At least when Raftery drinks at games, he still gets the names right. That announcer was awful.

OMax but won’t complain if F*ck em wins it.

[Nukem2]

O-Max without a doubt.

[1318WWells]

PRO-Max

[We R Final Four]

It strikes me that Shaka told us what to expect from this team.    That Kolek would run the team and had improved.    That Oso would have the ball in his hand more than any 6'9 player in the country.    That Kam and OMax were ready to step up.     

Kolek had a really solid game.    Maybe some more relatives came down from Rhode Island.

I don’t remember alot of chatter from coach regarding OMax…..actually I recall he was fairly reserved on the pre season topic.

[rocket surgeon]

  the BIG "O"mp by a whole bunch

[panda]

Jop -

Without his 9 points, we don’t cover.

[barfolomew]

OMax.

I'm sure someone less lazy than me can confirm, but this had to be his career high for And-Ones.
Love to see him fighting to finish through contact.

[brewcity77]

Pro-Max

[jfp61]

Olivier Maxence Prospect

[MU82]

Loved Kolek's game tonight. Impossible not to give O-Max the highest honor in sports, however.

[Newsdreams]

O2nbaMax

[BLWarrior91]

O-Max.

Kolek, Kam, and Stevie were solid as well.

[BLWarrior91]

Kolek is unreal and he is a fxxkin winner. He will be the face on the programs turnaround down the road. He is the stick that stirs the drink.

He makes incredible passes.  Really great floor general.

[mugrack]

 Igadorey 

[Spotcheck Billy]

Mr. Prosper

[JakeBarnes]

In the words of the announcer for Nova game: Olivier Maxence Prospect.

[Elonsmusk]

Definitely goes to OMax, but Kolek played really well. The drop off when he’s out of the game is really striking.

I agree with this analysis.  Kolek is much improved this year.  OMax is our X-Factor.  He plays (shoots) well, we are really, really hard to beat.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's Omax, but Kolek and Kam both had great games. Poor Kam, he'll get one someday.

[Lennys Tap]

The straw that stirs the drink, the key to our offense and the guy who makes it run (according to Shaka) - Tyler Kolek.

Honorable mention to OMax.

[StillAWarrior]

O-Max.

I appreciate O-Max (and Stevie) doing their part to bring the 'Scoop community together.

[Shooter McGavin]

I don’t remember alot of chatter from coach regarding OMax…..actually I recall he was fairly reserved on the pre season topic.

Agreed.  He did not mention Omax in glowing terms like some of the other players preseason. 

Omax for stud of the game.

[muwarrior69]

At least when Raftery drinks at games, he still gets the names right. That announcer was awful.

OMax but won’t complain if F*ck em wins it.

...and some still call him Raferty.

[dgies9156]

The team is playing well together. Everyone contributed last night against SJU.

Omax stands out enough to earn a Stud. And, importantly, he hit his free throws. FTs MATTA!!!! Always will.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

FTs MATTA!!!! Always will.

<sigh>

Do people still not get what JB means when he says this?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

<sigh>

Do people still not get what JB means when he says this?

I really think they don't. Some posters just see red when it comes the FTs and don't read what's actually being said

[rgoode57]

Omax was definitely sotg. But, Kolek quietly had an outstanding game.

[GoldenEagles03]

Omax was definitely sotg. But, Kolek quietly had an outstanding game.

24 assists, 3 turnovers in the last 3 games for him.

[brewcity77]

I really think they don't. Some posters just see red when it comes the FTs and don't read what's actually being said

QFT

And it makes those posters look like Providence fans, which is not a compliment.

[94Warrior]

<sigh>

Do people still not get what JB means when he says this?

We all get what he means.

FT Percentages don’t have a direct correlation to wins-losses over the course of a season, but single points and momentum sure do matter in close games.

Anybody know if Ellis can “redshirt” 2 years in a row (snicker)?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We all get what he means.

FT Percentages don’t have a direct correlation to wins-losses over the course of a season, but single points and momentum sure do matter in close games.
/quote]

That's actually not it. Closeish

[Its DJOver]

We know what it means, but when the poster that is famous for throwing out #fakenews and #lies every time any small detail is wrong about any post, as well as their other schtick being the grammar police, it's fair to jump on him.

Free throws do matter, so his #ftnomatta is incorrect.  If someone else were to throw that out, he'd do his #fakenews and say something like #ftratemattas, which is true, free throw rate is far more important that individual free throw percentage, but free throws do matter. 

At this point I think it's just throwing bait the same way people throw bait at Ners by bringing up Magic Dawson, or Sultan by bringing up the Mecca.

[CTWarrior]

I think the SOTG is Kolek almost every game, as things seem to go south whenever he sits.

So I'd pick him, but wouldn't argue at all with O-Max.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

We know what it means, but when the poster that is famous for throwing out #fakenews and #lies every time any small detail is wrong about any post, as well as their other schtick being the grammar police, it's fair to jump on him.

Free throws do matter, so his #ftnomatta is incorrect.  If someone else were to throw that out, he'd do his #fakenews and say something like #ftratemattas, which is true, free throw rate is far more important that individual free throw percentage, but free throws do matter. 

You can't really say "we know what it means" in the first paragraph, then in the second paragraph show that you don't know what it actually means.

[Elonsmusk]

We know what it means, but when the poster that is famous for throwing out #fakenews and #lies every time any small detail is wrong about any post, as well as their other schtick being the grammar police, it's fair to jump on him.

Free throws do matter, so his #ftnomatta is incorrect.  If someone else were to throw that out, he'd do his #fakenews and say something like #ftratemattas, which is true, free throw rate is far more important that individual free throw percentage, but free throws do matter. 

At this point I think it's just throwing bait the same way people throw bait at Ners by bringing up Magic Dawson, or Sultan by bringing up the Mecca.

I agree with this analaysis.

[wadesworld]

Free throws always matter.  The crystal ball is Gospel.

Carry on.

[Goose]

CTWarrior

Kolek is the MVP of the team and most important player by a wide margin. He is the driver of the bus, and he has been outstanding all season long. He was the important guy last season and has taken his game to the next level. He is the perfect guy for this offense.

[Elonsmusk]

You can't really say "we know what it means" in the first paragraph, then in the second paragraph show that you don't know what it actually means.

Let's just get as obtuse as JayBee's stupid Free Throws No Matta schtick.  If you have a crazy high FT Rate, but you are a terrible FT shooting team, let's say a 45% FT shooting team.  Do the Free Throws/FreeThrow Percentage made no longer matta?

Of course the more you get to the line the better, but leaving a crap ton of points at the FT line will cost you games. 

[Its DJOver]

You can't really say "we know what it means" in the first paragraph, then in the second paragraph show that you don't know what it actually means.

I understand the concept perfectly fine.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I understand the concept perfectly fine.

JB doesn't mean individual free throws don't matter. I mean, it's always better to make free throws then miss them. 

Let's just get as obtuse as JayBee's stupid Free Throws No Matta schtick.  If you have a crazy high FT Rate, but you are a terrible FT shooting team, let's say a 45% FT shooting team.  Do the Free Throws/FreeThrow Percentage made no longer matta?

Of course the more you get to the line the better, but leaving a crap ton of points at the FT line will cost you games. 

No sh*t.

What it means is that FT% is generally not a statistically significant factor in a team's success in comparison to other factors. That's it. Not that making free throws isn't important or that missing them has no consequence.

[Its DJOver]

What it means is that FT% is generally not a statistically significant factor in a team's success in comparison to other factors. That's it. Not that making free throws isn't important or that missing them has no consequence.

So he knowingly and openly contradicts himself. A bit ironic considering his tendency to jump on posters for getting small (often times insignificant) details wrong.

This is why people throw that bait.

[Elonsmusk]

JB doesn't mean individual free throws don't matter. I mean, it's always better to make free throws then miss them. 


No sh*t.

What it means is that FT% is generally not a statistically significant factor in a team's success in comparison to other factors. That's it. Not that making free throws isn't important or that missing them has no consequence.

LOL.  Re-read what you wrote.  "Not that making free throws isn't important."   So Offensive Rebounding is one of the Four Factors Ken Pom uses as most important to winning - let's say you consistently hack the player good at O-Rebounding and he's a crappy FT shooter - consider Tolu Smith at MS State - he'd likely score 2 points off the O-Rebound, but you put him on the line and he's 55%.  So, does FT% in that example nullify the importance of O-Rebounding Rate?

There's a lot of ways to skin the cat, but on the whole JayBees FTs No Matta is one of the dumbest schticks on Scoop.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So he knowingly and openly contradicts himself.

You are making the mistake of equating "#FTnomatta" with "making free throws doesn't matter."

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

LOL.  Re-read what you wrote.  "Not that making free throws isn't important."   So Offensive Rebounding is one of the Four Factors Ken Pom uses as most important to winning - let's say you consistently hack the player good at O-Rebounding and he's a crappy FT shooter - consider Tolu Smith at MS State - he'd likely score 2 points off the O-Rebound, but you put him on the line and he's 55%.  So, does FT% in that example nullify the importance of O-Rebounding Rate?

You realize that statistics aren't perfect right? They are indicators of past action that can be used by coaches to guide future action. But they are no guaranty.

You are doing the equivalent of someone saying "how can the mid-range game not be important if player X hit a mid range jumper at the buzzer to win the game."

[MU82]

Kolek is the MVP of the team and most important player by a wide margin. He is the driver of the bus, and he has been outstanding all season long. He was the important guy last season and has taken his game to the next level. He is the perfect guy for this offense.

There is absolutely nobody on the roster even remotely capable of replacing Oso. If we had, say, a Kuath-level big instead of this year's Oso but otherwise had the same team, we'd be lucky to win half our games.

Kolek is obviously a valuable player and I love how much he has improved. I could maybe even go with co-MVP. To say "most important player by a wide margin," I'm actually a little surprised by that given Oso's out-sized value to the team, Goose.

[wadesworld]

LOL.  Re-read what you wrote.  "Not that making free throws isn't important."   So Offensive Rebounding is one of the Four Factors Ken Pom uses as most important to winning - let's say you consistently hack the player good at O-Rebounding and he's a crappy FT shooter - consider Tolu Smith at MS State - he'd likely score 2 points off the O-Rebound, but you put him on the line and he's 55%.  So, does FT% in that example nullify the importance of O-Rebounding Rate?

There's a lot of ways to skin the cat, but on the whole JayBees FTs No Matta is one of the dumbest schticks on Scoop.

If an opponent's strategy is to send the 55% free throw shooter to the line every time he shoots the ball, and the 55% free throw shooter shoots his season average, that team will score 1.1 points per possession.  There are only 19 teams in America that score more than 1.1 points per possession.

[Its DJOver]

You are making the mistake of equating "#FTnomatta" with "making free throws doesn't matter."

Well, he only brings up FTnomatta when people complain about missing free throws. 

Everyone knows that getting to the line is important, not only are they high efficient shots, they get the other team in foul trouble. Nobody likes missing free throws, people like to complain about it, only one poster feels the need to play the smartest guy in the room and throw out his schtick that everyone has read 1000 times.

[rocky_warrior]

You are making the mistake of equating "#FTnomatta" with "making free throws doesn't matter."

Since you like semantics...it's doesn't matter whether people understand JB's 'free throws don't matter" gag, he's factually incorrect in stating that, and should phrase it differently to better convey his point.

[Skatastrophy]

Missing the front end of a 1-and-1 should count as 2 misses.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

We know what it means, but when the poster that is famous for throwing out #fakenews and #lies every time any small detail is wrong about any post, as well as their other schtick being the grammar police, it's fair to jump on him.

Free throws do matter, so his #ftnomatta is incorrect.  If someone else were to throw that out, he'd do his #fakenews and say something like #ftratemattas, which is true, free throw rate is far more important that individual free throw percentage, but free throws do matter. 

At this point I think it's just throwing bait the same way people throw bait at Ners by bringing up Magic Dawson, or Sultan by bringing up the Mecca.

^Word

[1318WWells]

JB doesn't mean individual free throws don't matter. I mean, it's always better to make free throws then miss them. 


No sh*t.

What it means is that FT% is generally not a statistically significant factor in a team's success in comparison to other factors. That's it. Not that making free throws isn't important or that missing them has no consequence.

When a team is trailing late and looking to start fouling to play catch up, do they look at the opposing teams individual FT%s or FTRs when deciding who best to foul?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

When a team is trailing late and looking to start fouling to play catch up, do they look at the opposing teams individual FT%s or FTRs when deciding who best to foul?

FT%...which changes nothing in my statement about FT% v. FTR overall.

[Pepe Sylvia]

We got another game tomorrow, can we get O-Max up there before its too late?

[BrewCity83]

O-Maximum.  He could've sat out the entire first half and won SOTG just by his 2nd half performance alone.

Book it.

[Newsdreams]

We got another game tomorrow, can we get O-Max up there before its too late?

Epiphany today you pagan!

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

[Newsdreams]

MODS GOWNE

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]