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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1125 on: March 07, 2017, 09:05:41 AM »
Finally moved to the teams that should be in on ESPN as well.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1126 on: March 07, 2017, 09:19:30 AM »
There is always the conspiracy theory that certain matchups were setup, because they have cool story lines.  But the bottom line is that the frequency with which that occurs is well within what one would expect based on random chance.  There aren't that many ways to arrange things and fit all the rules.

People love a good conspiracy theory though.
Exactly. A lot of these match-ups have to do with coaches and we all know how small that world is in high-level DI hoops.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1127 on: March 07, 2017, 09:29:18 AM »
There is always the conspiracy theory that certain matchups were setup, because they have cool story lines.  But the bottom line is that the frequency with which that occurs is well within what one would expect based on random chance.  There aren't that many ways to arrange things and fit all the rules.

People love a good conspiracy theory though.

Don't bring your hoity-toity frequencies, standard deviations, and fancy p-value talk around here.  While technically correct (the best kind of correct), it is not effectively correct for Scoop purposes.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1128 on: March 07, 2017, 09:49:34 AM »
I agree. Wouldn't surprise me if the bracket experts are underseeding us. Similar to how the 2010 team was 2-3 lines higher than most everyone expected.

If you take MU's top 50 wins at face value, then I would agree that the experts are underseeding MU.  However, I think they may be pricing in the Xavier and Creighton injuries and their RPIs may not reflect the quality of the wins as top-50 when MU beat them.  I don't know by how many seeds MU is underseeded if they are. But if it means they get a 10 instead of an 8 or 9, that's ok by me.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1129 on: March 07, 2017, 09:49:51 AM »
Don't bring your hoity-toity frequencies, standard deviations, and fancy p-value talk around here.  While technically correct (the best kind of correct), it is not effectively correct for Scoop purposes.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1130 on: March 07, 2017, 09:53:37 AM »
There is always the conspiracy theory that certain matchups were setup, because they have cool story lines. 

If we're a 7 or 10 in Kentucky's bracket I'll buy into the "Marquette and Kentucky have the most-played matchup in tourney history, so let's match them up again" conspiracy theory.

Maybe if we end up matched with Northwestern in a Collins-Wojo battle too.  That's about it.


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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1131 on: March 07, 2017, 09:54:56 AM »
If we're a 7 or 10 in Kentucky's bracket I'll buy into the "Marquette and Kentucky have the most-played matchup in tourney history, so let's match them up again" conspiracy theory.

Maybe if we end up matched with Northwestern in a Collins-Wojo battle too.  That's about it.

Va Tech / MU would be interesting as well. 
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1132 on: March 07, 2017, 10:03:45 AM »
No one outside of Marquette, Northwestern, or Duke enthusiasts would care about a Collins-Wojo matchup, as exciting a matchup as that would actually be.

Now if we end up against VT, we would ask for an independent party to oversee the process


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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1133 on: March 07, 2017, 10:07:30 AM »
If we're a 7 or 10 in Kentucky's bracket I'll buy into the "Marquette and Kentucky have the most-played matchup in tourney history, so let's match them up again" conspiracy theory.

Maybe if we end up matched with Northwestern in a Collins-Wojo battle too.  That's about it.

Actually, the last time there was a selection committee conspiracy, it involved Kentucky not wanting to play Marquette resulting in an NIT banner for us.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1134 on: March 07, 2017, 10:17:10 AM »
Exactly. A lot of these match-ups have to do with coaches and we all know how small that world is in high-level DI hoops.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1135 on: March 07, 2017, 10:30:55 AM »
Don't bring your hoity-toity frequencies, standard deviations, and fancy p-value talk around here.  While technically correct (the best kind of correct), it is not effectively correct for Scoop purposes.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1136 on: March 07, 2017, 10:37:36 AM »
So far, no bid stealers.  MVC was a potential one if Witchita St didn't win.  WCC final between Gonzaga and St. Mary's means no stolen bid there either.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1137 on: March 07, 2017, 10:48:48 AM »
some bracketoligists think Middle Tennessee can get a at large bid

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1138 on: March 07, 2017, 11:45:15 AM »
I just saw UWM is making a run at the tourney by making the Horizon final.  They play Northern Kentucky on ESPN tonight after going 4-14 in conference play.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1139 on: March 07, 2017, 11:53:21 AM »
Ok, once you start talking like this you are really inviting the karma fairies to come screw with us. Just sayin'.

As long as we're in, I don't care if it's a 3-seed or the very last team in Dayton.
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« Reply #1140 on: March 07, 2017, 11:53:59 AM »
I just saw UWM is making a run at the tourney by making the Horizon final.  They play Northern Kentucky on ESPN tonight after going 4-14 in conference play.
and having 10 wins the whole season. Really good job their coach has done with the team. On espn last night the announcer said that uwm top 6 leading scorers had either graduated or transferred

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1144 on: March 07, 2017, 04:23:24 PM »
Greenberg is a big ACC guy. Just doing his part for the mothership.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1145 on: March 07, 2017, 04:30:00 PM »
I wish the Big East had a mothership sports site that had great articles and game videos. Seems like you have to go to youtube to see highlights. foxsports.com sucks.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1146 on: March 07, 2017, 05:08:05 PM »
I wonder what Greenberg's definition of "earn a chance to play in the NCAA tournament" is. Because the only team that NEEDs to win one in the BET is Xavier. And that's just because they are playing Depaul. Marquette/Seton Hall/Providence all have a chance to play. There is no situation where the fans of those teams are not watching on Selection Sunday.

My guess is that most talking heads talk this way about every time that is not a lock. Even if it would take extraordinary results for the team to not make it.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1147 on: March 07, 2017, 05:46:27 PM »
I just saw UWM is making a run at the tourney by making the Horizon final.  They play Northern Kentucky on ESPN tonight after going 4-14 in conference play.

the Horizon tourney was really sad.  3 of the 4 teams in the semi-finals were a combined 32-60

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1148 on: March 07, 2017, 05:55:36 PM »
the Horizon tourney was really sad.  3 of the 4 teams in the semi-finals were a combined 32-60
Was? It's not over. So several desperate teams get hot at the right time---why is that sad?
UWM didn't win 3 in a row all year, and they have won 3 in this tourney--going for 4 tonight. A #10 seed has never won a game in this tournament, and UWM has won 3. No team has ever played in March Madness with as many losses as UWM........23.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #1149 on: March 07, 2017, 07:55:17 PM »
http://m.espn.com/wireless/relatedvideos?id=18843140&cid=2459792&backText=NCAAM%20Bracketology%20-%20ESPN&back=http%3A%2F%2Fm.espn.com%2Fncb%2Fbracketology%3Fiteration%3D250%26region%3D2%26year%3D2017

See first video below. No respect.  This seems crazy even being a big east fan.

Well, if he's right (hint:  he's not), Marquette and Seton Hall cannot both make the tournament.

"Those four teams need to advance in the Big East tournament to earn a chance to play in the NCAA tournament."
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