Bubble Watch

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yep! I only count the chickens I have. Saw the following in another thread:

Team   Top 50 Wins   Top 50 Losses   
Villanova   10   3   
Florida St.   10   4   
North Carolina   10   4   
Butler   10   4   
Duke   10   6   
Baylor   9   4   
Kansas   8   2   
Kentucky   7   5   
Minnesota   7   6   
Marquette   7   6   
Louisville   7   7

If Gonzaga does not win their tourney, could they be out?

 

[GoldenDieners32]

Yep! I only count the chickens I have. Saw the following in another thread:

Team   Top 50 Wins   Top 50 Losses   
Villanova   10   3   
Florida St.   10   4   
North Carolina   10   4   
Butler   10   4   
Duke   10   6   
Baylor   9   4   
Kansas   8   2   
Kentucky   7   5   
Minnesota   7   6   
Marquette   7   6   
Louisville   7   7

If Gonzaga does not win their tourney, could they be out?

Even if they lose in the championship game they will still be in keep in mind that the zags beat Arizona, Iowa State, Florida and St Mary's twice

[wadesworld]

Yep! I only count the chickens I have. Saw the following in another thread:

Team   Top 50 Wins   Top 50 Losses   
Villanova   10   3   
Florida St.   10   4   
North Carolina   10   4   
Butler   10   4   
Duke   10   6   
Baylor   9   4   
Kansas   8   2   
Kentucky   7   5   
Minnesota   7   6   
Marquette   7   6   
Louisville   7   7

If Gonzaga does not win their tourney, could they be out?

LOL!

[BossplayaOtto]

Some people are too damn sensitive.

But sure, I will oblige. I'll find another ridiculous comment to poke fun at for the next several weeks. Shouldn't be too hard.

Plus MUFNY might have been correct. With JJJ at point we may have finished the regular season 5-0 instead of 4-1.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yep! I only count the chickens I have. Saw the following in another thread:

Team   Top 50 Wins   Top 50 Losses   
Villanova   10   3   
Florida St.   10   4   
North Carolina   10   4   
Butler   10   4   
Duke   10   6   
Baylor   9   4   
Kansas   8   2   
Kentucky   7   5   
Minnesota   7   6   
Marquette   7   6   
Louisville   7   7

If Gonzaga does not win their tourney, could they be out?

No. Not even close.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Up a few spots per Lunardi, the Bracket King. We are now a 10 seed playing South Carolina in Sacramento.

That would be a very interesting matchup. An unstoppable force (Marquette's Offense) vs. an immovable object (South Carolina's defense).

It also tells you something about the bubble when Illinois can lose to Rutgers and still be considered "First Four Out."

[fjm]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Up a few spots per Lunardi, the Bracket King. We are now a 10 seed playing South Carolina in Sacramento.

That would be a very interesting matchup. An unstoppable force (Marquette's Offense) vs. an immovable object (South Carolina's defense).

It also tells you something about the bubble when Illinois can lose to Rutgers and still be considered "First Four Out."

I will take a 10 seed no problem. I would love to avoid the 8-9 this year.

That being said, it will take a BET championship game or actual championship to get to the 7.

[SaveOD238]

That would be a very interesting matchup. An unstoppable force (Marquette's Offense) vs. an immovable object (South Carolina's defense).

I like our chances in a classic good offense/bad defense vs. good defense/bad offense matchup. 

[oldwarrior81]

I like our chances in a classic good offense/bad defense vs. good defense/bad offense matchup.

the literal movable object against the resistible force.

[WayOfTheWarrior]

Yep! I only count the chickens I have. Saw the following in another thread:

Team   Top 50 Wins   Top 50 Losses   
Villanova   10   3   
Florida St.   10   4   
North Carolina   10   4   
Butler   10   4   
Duke   10   6   
Baylor   9   4   
Kansas   8   2   
Kentucky   7   5   
Minnesota   7   6   
Marquette   7   6   
Louisville   7   7

If Gonzaga does not win their tourney, could they be out?

At least you formed it as a question...

They would be 'out' as a 1 seed...let's just go with that.

[Windyplayer]

Even Palm is coming around, #10 seed against Iowa State...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Though, of course, he made sure to mitigate it...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch

"Marquette has some good wins, but a lot of losses. The Golden Eagles didn't play a very good non-conference schedule and is paying for that a little bit now as well. Marquette finished well though and is one win away from getting off this list.?

Haha, a lot of losses? We have 11 which is in no way, shape, or form high for a team hovering around the 9/10 seed line.

[MUFlutieEffect]

Even Palm is coming around, #10 seed against Iowa State...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Though, of course, he made sure to mitigate it...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch

"Marquette has some good wins, but a lot of losses. The Golden Eagles didn't play a very good non-conference schedule and is paying for that a little bit now as well. Marquette finished well though and is one win away from getting off this list.?

Haha, a lot of losses? We have 11 which is in no way, shape, or form high for a team hovering around the 9/10 seed line.

He's had that first sentence ('some good wins but a lot of losses') for about a month.  The same page lists Marquette as 6th in the Big East.  Wouldn't put too much weight on anything Palm throws out there.

[GoldenDieners32]

stewart mandel has us as an 8 seed playing arkansas and if we would win we would most likely play #1 Gonzaga

[MUMountin]

Bracket Matrix morning update: Up to the top 10 seed, in every bracket except for RealTimeRPI.

[forgetful]

Bracket Matrix morning update: Up to the top 10 seed, in every bracket except for RealTimeRPI.

I wonder the logic for RealTimeRPI.  You would think they were weighting RPI high, but they have Syracuse in and us out, which makes no sense from an RPI standpoint.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I wonder the logic for RealTimeRPI.  You would think they were weighting RPI high, but they have Syracuse in and us out, which makes no sense from an RPI standpoint.

Lol yah, they haven't had us in a bracket all year.  Its like they don't know we even exist!

[muwarrior69]

No. Not even close.

So as far a Gonzaga goes, top 50 wins/losses don't matter? They get a pass?
Just asking, as forgetful did point out some ranked teams did not get selected.

[wadesworld]

So as far a Gonzaga goes, top 50 wins/losses don't matter? They get a pass?
Just asking, as forgetful did point out some ranked teams did not get selected.

They are 4-0 against RPI top 25 teams and 10-1 against RPI top 100 teams.  They have wins over Arizona, Florida, Iowa State, and Tennessee and none of those were at home.

[Galway Eagle]

Does st Mary's warrant an at large bid this year?

[GB Warrior]

So as far a Gonzaga goes, top 50 wins/losses don't matter? They get a pass?
Just asking, as forgetful did point out some ranked teams did not get selected.

The imperfect stats that we have, at some point you have to value winning and the dreaded "eye test". I don't think they're the #1 overall seed, and if they don't win their tourney, I don't think the belong as a #1 at all. But this is a good basketball team, and any sort of sustained winning should be valued.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

So as far a Gonzaga goes, top 50 wins/losses don't matter? They get a pass?
Just asking, as forgetful did point out some ranked teams did not get selected.

They are 5-0 against the top 50, and 10-1 against the top 100.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Does st Mary's warrant an at large bid this year?

Yes.  7-9 seed range IMO.

[MuMark]

They are 5-0 against the top 50, and 10-1 against the top 100.

Not to mention #1 in Pomeroy and Sagarin and 10th in RPI.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So as far a Gonzaga goes, top 50 wins/losses don't matter? They get a pass?
Just asking, as forgetful did point out some ranked teams did not get selected.

Top 50 wins is an important stat to the committee. It is not the only stat.

They have 4 top 25 wins. 5 top 50. 10 top 100. No bad losses. 1 loss total.

[MUBigDance]

This link from Last Year has Lunardi whining about the committee's choices....but what's interesting is the video of him interviewing the chair on the last 4 in and out.

The big deal was strength of schedule and top 50 wins. If similar thinking in the committee this year I think we are in good shape.

oops....heres the link:

http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/112470/the-committee-got-so-much-wrong-and-here-is-how