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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #850 on: February 28, 2017, 08:40:28 PM »
I'm rooting for Vandy...1. I HATE UK and 2. anything to help MU's RPI/Resume at this point is welcomed. This definitely would. Now the key is, if we can get Georgia to cooperate and get their RPI into the top 50.

We want them to cooperate, but also need to remember we're directly in competition with them. We definitely want them to end conference play w 14 losses.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #851 on: February 28, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »
We want them to cooperate, but also need to remember we're directly in competition with them. We definitely want them to end conference play w 14 losses.

It's all right in front of MU to take, MU wins both this week and they are lock city. Go out and take it, don't back door your way in.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #852 on: February 28, 2017, 08:54:07 PM »
It's all right in front of MU to take, MU wins both this week and they are lock city. Go out and take it, don't back door your way in.

Agreed. But that ain't gonna stop me for hoping for other teams eliminate themselves from contention.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #853 on: February 28, 2017, 09:04:05 PM »
Providence is likely to go 2-0, and if we're talking seeding - that's not a bad thing since they have every tiebreaker against us anyways.

If we're in a 2-way tie with Seton Hall, we have the edge.

If we're in a 3-way tie with Seton & Xavier, we would finish 1st out of the 3.

If we go 2-0 and end up in a tie with Providence, so be it. That means we went 2-0, and losing that tiebreaker simply means we are getting the 5 or 6 seed.

Providence losing to Depaul or St Johns likely only helps us in terms of our overall NCAA tournament bid. The odds of us passing them outright over these final 2 is pretty slim.

Actually winning out would mean the 4 seed If tied with providence, because it would mean we swept CU and they'd drop below us.

Win out and have PC loses @ SJU and we get the 3 seed.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #854 on: February 28, 2017, 09:10:53 PM »
Actually winning out would mean the 4 seed If tied with providence, because it would mean we swept CU and they'd drop below us.

Win out and have PC loses @ SJU and we get the 3 seed.

I should have known better then to pin my hopes on DePaul tonight. Would have rather they beat PC so I could sleep easier this week. Oh well, I guess SJU can be kinda sorta tough at home sometimes.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #855 on: February 28, 2017, 09:29:34 PM »
Ga Tech up 4 on Pitt. 8 to go. ESPNU.

PC up 12 on depaul. 9 to go. FS1.

Kentucky has cut the Vandy lead to 10.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #856 on: February 28, 2017, 09:51:00 PM »
Ga Tech gonna hold on to beat Pitt, unfortunately.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #857 on: February 28, 2017, 09:56:34 PM »
Ga Tech gonna hold on to beat Pitt, unfortunately.

Not a HUGE result. Tech should still be well behind us. Would have been a nice RPI boost though

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« Reply #858 on: February 28, 2017, 09:57:34 PM »
Not a HUGE result. Tech should still be well behind us. Would have been a nice RPI boost though

Ya, would have been some breathing room tho.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #859 on: February 28, 2017, 09:58:53 PM »
Ga Tech gonna hold on to beat Pitt, unfortunately.

Here's the weird thing about worrying about Georgia Tech.  If you think they are in, then why would we be out.  All statistical measure have us in front of them.  Even if we lose out, our statistical numbers will be better than theirs.

Their best case scenario is .500 in league play, with an RPI of around 90.  Had they lost tonight, their RPI would be over 100 and considered a bad loss for teams.

That's how bad the bubble is this year.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #860 on: February 28, 2017, 10:02:38 PM »
This comeback by Kentucky has been... terrifying. Should just about polish off Vandy's chances, though.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #861 on: February 28, 2017, 10:03:32 PM »
Kentucky turns it on at the end. Look like they are going to win.

Gives Vandy 14 loses.....I don't think any team has gotten an at large bid with 15 losses.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #862 on: February 28, 2017, 10:04:21 PM »
This comeback by Kentucky has been... terrifying. Should just about polish off Vandy's chances, though.

I don't think so. Vandy is right on the fringe. A win over Florida might do it for them or at least have them right in it.

Good result for us. Rpi doesn't suffer and a win would have been huge for them

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #863 on: February 28, 2017, 10:04:46 PM »
Kentucky turns it on at the end. Look like they are going to win.

Gives Vandy 14 loses.....I don't think any team has gotten an at large bid with 15 losses.

That is correct. 14 losses is the most.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #864 on: February 28, 2017, 10:13:01 PM »
That is correct. 14 losses is the most.

That will almost certainly be broken this year unless the committee decides to let teams like Illinois State, Houston, Rhode Island, Middle Tennessee, UT Arlington get at larges when they haven't beaten anybody all year.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #865 on: February 28, 2017, 10:16:00 PM »
That is correct. 14 losses is the most.

Well that may get broken this year.  A team with 15 losses may make the tournament. 

One example is that either Syracuse or Georgia Tech will have 15 losses. 

Some seem to think they are both in.  If that is true a 15-loss team will make the tournament. 

Wake has to beat Louisville or VPI (on the road) to avoid being at 15 losses.  I think they lose both, which would put 2 of the 3 bubblicious ACC teams at 15 losses.  Hard to believe with this bubble that one of them doesn't get in.

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #866 on: February 28, 2017, 10:26:25 PM »
Another weird team (not on the bubble).  Oklahoma St.

With only Kansas left on their schedule, they will likely finish 19-11 overall, 9-9 in the Big12 and 3-9 against the top 50...but ridiculous RPI/KP numbers that don't appear to match their performance.  Strange.

Right now bracketology has them as a 6-seed. 

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #867 on: March 01, 2017, 12:57:31 AM »
Ideal situation for us was Vandy winning 1 and losing 1. If not possible, would rather have them lose 2 than win 2. So tonight was a good result. Kentucky and Florida are such good opponents that even if they lose both, they are still a top 50 RPI team. Trick will be the SEC tournament.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #868 on: March 01, 2017, 04:55:08 AM »
Anyone worrying about Providence, remember SJU is 5-3 at home in conference play with their only losses to Villanova, Creighton at full strength, and Xavier at full strength (that was the game Sumner was injured). Johnnies will probably be a slim favorite going into Saturday.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #869 on: March 01, 2017, 08:48:16 AM »
Anyone worrying about Providence, remember SJU is 5-3 at home in conference play with their only losses to Villanova, Creighton at full strength, and Xavier at full strength (that was the game Sumner was injured). Johnnies will probably be a slim favorite going into Saturday.
Horrible match-up from a tourney standpoint for Providence. Very difficult game on the road against a team the Committee expects you to handle. A win keeps them EDIT: punches their ticket afloat, an L EDIT: has them walking on egg shells.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #870 on: March 01, 2017, 08:53:11 AM »
Horrible match-up from a tourney standpoint for Providence. Very difficult game on the road against a team the Committee expects you to handle. A win keeps them afloat, an L eviscerates their tourney hopes.
If st johns wins thats a good thing for us

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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #871 on: March 01, 2017, 08:54:03 AM »
Horrible match-up from a tourney standpoint for Providence. Very difficult game on the road against a team the Committee expects you to handle. A win keeps them afloat, an L eviscerates their tourney hopes.

Ehhh. PC is a stone cold lock w a win. Very much still alive w a L.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #872 on: March 01, 2017, 08:54:38 AM »
Ehhh. PC is a stone cold lock w a win. Very much still alive w a L.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #873 on: March 01, 2017, 09:01:34 AM »
Horrible match-up from a tourney standpoint for Providence. Very difficult game on the road against a team the Committee expects you to handle. A win keeps them afloat, an L eviscerates their tourney hopes.

Providence punched their ticket last night. 9 Big East wins will be enough. Losing to St John's isn't at all disastrous.
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Re: Bubble Watch
« Reply #874 on: March 01, 2017, 09:15:18 AM »
If st johns wins thats a good thing for us

It's all about that 3 seed for the BE tourney. I know the prevailing theme is conference standings mean nothing but in leagues that do the double round robin it does I believe past committees have said as much.
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