Bubble Watch

[amen426]

The game was 62-59 with 6 minutes to play.

Quit calling everything a collapse. Pittsburgh blew a 19 point lead. Cal was up 16, and the lead is now cut to 1..

But sure. Biggest collapse goes to Creighton..

Providence is not a bad team. That's a good win for them. Huge wins for both them and Seton Hall tonight...

[nyg]

Providence has won three in a row and are 7-8 in BE play.

Games left are MU, Depaul and St. Johns.   

[MUBigDance]

Gents we can't back into this one. We need 2 of 3 now.

SH and PV have an easy 3 down the stretch. They know it. They are hungry. I really believe 9-9 won't do it now. Before some doubt hut maybe.

All because it's getting crowded in my he middle of the BE. We have to take it!

[MU82]

Gents we can't back into this one. We need 2 of 3 now.

I'll do the best I can.

[amen426]

Providence has won three in a row and are 7-8 in BE play.

Games left are MU, Depaul and St. Johns.

Let's hope they look at this 3 game stretch the same way we looked at Providence/St Johns and DePaul following the Nova win.

[PGsHeroes32]

The game was 62-59 with 6 minutes to play.

Quit calling everything a collapse. Pittsburgh blew a 19 point lead. Cal was up 16, and the lead is now cut to 1..

But sure. Biggest collapse goes to Creighton..

Providence is not a bad team. That's a good win for them. Huge wins for both them and Seton Hall tonight...

They scored 4 pts in 6 minutes.

You enjoy being a unnatural carnal knowledgeing idiot?

[PGsHeroes32]

Kstate lost at least

[MomofMUltiples]

Oh good, we're heading back into panic mode now. There's been far too much positivity around here lately.

Butler 'bout to beat Nova too. 

[BM1090]

Kstate lost at least

So did Cal.

Not as good of a night for us as last night, but still a positive. Simply, there aren't many teams we are still competing with and some of them lost.

[Windyplayer]

Cal coughed up what would have been a massive win against Oregon. Hooray!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Gents we can't back into this one. We need 2 of 3 now.

SH and PV have an easy 3 down the stretch. They know it. They are hungry. I really believe 9-9 won't do it now. Before some doubt hut maybe.

All because it's getting crowded in my he middle of the BE. We have to take it!

Ehh. Stil think 9-9 gets us to Dayton. Just aren't that many teams with better resumes. But PC and SHU made things more interesting tonight. At the end of the day, we just need to take care of our own business (get at least 2 of 3), and what those 2 do doesn't matter.

[MuMark]

Friars RPI now 53.....

[amen426]

Cal drops its 3rd in a row.

Finishes with a freebee against RPI-killer Oregon State, before going on the road to Utah and Colorado. They need to finish out 3-0 to feel reasonably comfortable heading into the Pac-12 tourny.

Currently sitting a mere 1-6 against the top 50.

[brandx]

"The Bilas Index is the best and most reliable measure of basketball excellence and accomplishment known to man. It should be used for good and not for ill, for pure enjoyment and not for financial gain and should not be used to wager. If The Bilas Index is used in such a diabolical manner, our friends in the desert can be brought to their knees and an entire industry toppled. That would be most unfortunate."


Jay has MU at #33.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why do people think if Providence gets in, we are suddenly out? There's room on this crappy bubble for both teams. I love seeing the Big East bubble teams win while the other bubble teams lose.

The two teams directly in front of us on bracketmatrix (K State/California) lost tonight. The team three spots behind us lost (TCU). Vandy knocked off Tennessee, strengthening our win and kicking the Vols out of the first four out. Yes, Seton Hall (right behind us), Syracuse (4 spots behind us), Illinois State (5 spots behind us), Wake Forest (9 spots behind us), and Providence (10 spots behinds ) all won, but I think it was overall a good day for us. Seton Hall or us will slide up to the 10 seed line, the other will move out of the play in game.

[BossplayaOtto]

Why do people think if Providence gets in, we are suddenly out? There's room on this crappy bubble for both teams. I love seeing the Big East bubble teams win while the other bubble teams lose.

The two teams directly in front of us on bracketmatrix (K State/California) lost tonight. The team three spots behind us lost (TCU). Vandy knocked off Tennessee, strengthening our win and kicking the Vols out of the first four out. Yes, Seton Hall (right behind us), Syracuse (4 spots behind us), Illinois State (5 spots behind us), Wake Forest (9 spots behind us), and Providence (10 spots behinds ) all won, but I think it was overall a good day for us. Seton Hall or us will slide up to the 10 seed line, the other will move out of the play in game.

I agree with this analysis

[jsglow]

Jay Bilas has 8 - count 'em, 8 - Big East teams in the field, ranked as follows:

1. Villanova
21. Butler
30. Xavier
33. Marquette
37. Creighton
45. Seton Hall
55. Providence
67. Georgetown (written before they crapped the bed against DePaul)

He further says this about the "inconceivably weak" field:

"There has not been such a squishy, pliable, drippy bubble in the history of the NCAA tournament, nor has there been such a shortage of worthy mid-major teams. That is not to say that some cannot win games in the first weekend, or that Gonzaga cannot win the whole thing, but the committee is going to let in at-large teams that have more losses than the Washington Generals."

Seems a little crazy - but who knows?

Eff em all. Don't back down. Great that Providence won. Make Saturday sweeter. Warrior Nation.  Earn this.

[BM1090]

Despite everyone freaking out last night, Lunardi moved us up 3 spots since Monday. In his updated projections, Marquette is the last team that avoids Dayton and plays 6 seed Oklahoma State in Orlando

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Grabbed the last bye in Lunardis bracket.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Despite everyone freaking out last night, Lunardi moved us up 3 spots since Monday. In his updated projections, Marquette is the last time that avoids Dayton and plays 6 seed Oklahoma State in Orlando

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Ok State would be a wild one. They don't play a lick of D either. First to 110 wins.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Our biggest asset is our top 50 wins. Currently 5-5 against the top 50. But we have several opponents currently flirting with the top 50 line: Vanderbilt (47th), Seton Hall (48th), Michigan (51st), Providence (54th), Georgia (57th).

Unlikely that all 5 would get into the top 50. But has the potential to move our top 50 W-L record as low as 3-6 (assuming losses to Creighton/X) or as high as 9-7 (assuming wins @Providence, @X, vs. Creighton). Here's what these opponents have the rest of the way:

Vanderbilt: Mississippi State, @Kentucky, Florida (Likely 1-2)
Seton Hall: @Depaul, Georgetown, @Butler (Likely 2-1)
Michigan: Purdue. @Northwestern, @Nebraska (Likely 1-2)
Providence: Marquette, Depaul, @St. John's (Likely 3-0)
Georgia: @Alabama, LSU, Auburn, @Arkansas (Likely 3-1)

Using RPI wizard, here are the final RPIs if those games play out like expected:
Vanderbilt: 49
Seton Hall: 45
Michigan: 49
Providence: 50
Georgia: 50

Obviously...not a perfect system. Can't have two 49s and two 50s. What it tells me is that all of these teams would likely be in the 45-55 range. Michigan will be the team to watch. Two of the games I have them losing (Purdue and @NW) are considered tossups on RPI forecast. Win either one and they can solidify themselves as a top 50 team. Georgia @Alabama is another tossup that could go against us. We are actually currently favored to beat Providence at RPI Forecast so that would likely keep them out of the top 50...but I'd be more than happy with that.

In the end, lets just go 3-0 and remove all doubt eh? 

EDIT: Looked at Pittsburgh too. They are currently 65th in RPI. They are likely to go 0-3 the rest of the way (UNC, @GT, @UVA). But if they somehow went 2-1, they also would have an RPI of 50 per RPI Wizard. So....possible.

[MU82]

Despite everyone freaking out last night, Lunardi moved us up 3 spots since Monday. In his updated projections, Marquette is the last team that avoids Dayton and plays 6 seed Oklahoma State in Orlando

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

I am part of "everyone." I did not freak out.

We're gonna win Saturday and cruise into the Dance!

[We R Final Four]

Why do people think if Providence gets in, we are suddenly out? There's room on this crappy bubble for both teams. I love seeing the Big East bubble teams win while the other bubble teams lose.

The two teams directly in front of us on bracketmatrix (K State/California) lost tonight. The team three spots behind us lost (TCU). Vandy knocked off Tennessee, strengthening our win and kicking the Vols out of the first four out. Yes, Seton Hall (right behind us), Syracuse (4 spots behind us), Illinois State (5 spots behind us), Wake Forest (9 spots behind us), and Providence (10 spots behinds ) all won, but I think it was overall a good day for us. Seton Hall or us will slide up to the 10 seed line, the other will move out of the play in game.

TAMU--is it possible to direct me (us) the running list of legitimate bubble teams--or perhaps post it? You seem to have the best pulse on this topic. I've seen so called bubble teams in other threads that are not included in other bubble team lists.  I understand it is not an exact science, and it's fluid--but I would like to get a better handle on who truly are the bubble teams. Thank you.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU--is it possible to direct me (us) the running list of legitimate bubble teams--or perhaps post it? You seem to have the best pulse on this topic. I've seen so called bubble teams in other threads that are not included in other bubble team lists.  I understand it is not an exact science, and it's fluid--but I would like to get a better handle on who truly are the bubble teams. Thank you.

Honestly, all i did was look at Bracket Matrix (http://bracketmatrix.com/). Hardly a perfect system but it gives a good sense of where you stand in the eyes of all the different bracketologists.

It hasn't been updated yet today. But I'd imagine that we will move up either two spots or possibly only one due to Seton Hall beating X. Syracuse could theoretically jump us as well with their win @Duke.

[We R Final Four]

Thank you sir.