Buffalo shooting, take 2

[GB Warrior]

Another priority - cancel public schools! https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/25/tragedies-like-the-texas-shooting-make-a-somber-case-for-homeschooling/

[Uncle Rico]

Another priority - cancel public schools! https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/25/tragedies-like-the-texas-shooting-make-a-somber-case-for-homeschooling/

Well, we’d finally get rid of teachers that way

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You get what you pay for:

Lobbying by gun rights groups hit a spending record in 2021. They outspent gun control by more than 5x
https://fortune.com/2022/05/25/nra-contributions-politicians-lobbying-gun-rights-groups-record-2021-ted-cruz/

"Spending on House and Senate races generally pales in comparison to the amount these groups spend on presidential and gubernatorial elections. For instance, in 2020, the NRA alone spent over $12 million campaigning against Biden and another $4.5 million in favor of Donald Trump. (Some high-profile Senate races, like Jon Ossoff vs David Purdue in Georgia in 2020, capture millions in spending, but the NRA’s candidates lost those races.)

That said, Texas Senator Ted Cruz has been the biggest beneficiary of those groups when it comes to campaign spending. A separate study by OpenSecrets looking at funds received by gun rights groups from 1989-2020 shows he has received a disproportionately larger amount of funds from those groups, compared to other lawmakers.

Cruz received $442,333 in that time period, compared to $248,058 to Steve Scalise, the second-largest recipient of funds from gun rights groups.

Ted Cruz (R, Texas) – $442,333

Steve Scalise (R, La.) – $248,058

John Cornyn (R, Texas) – $238,875

Pete Sessions (R, Texas) – $202,926

Ron Johnson (R, Wis.) – $197,993

John Thune (R, SD) – $186,260

Mitch McConnell (R, Ky.) – $179,557

Ken Calvert (R, Calif.) – $166,116

Pat Toomey (R, Penn.) – $162,676

Marco Rubio (R, Fla.) – $161,044

[GB Warrior]

Yeah but that nets out with the money Cruz is losing from the doors lobby

[MU82]

Interesting to see Toomey on that list, as he’s been willing to try to find some bipartisan solutions regarding gun violence.

Perhaps the NRA wants to make sure that any of his solutions don’t solve too much.

[Pakuni]

Not a great look for the cops.

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

[brewcity77]

Not a great look for the cops.

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

So much for the good guys with guns garbage.

[JWags85]

You get what you pay for:

Lobbying by gun rights groups hit a spending record in 2021. They outspent gun control by more than 5x
https://fortune.com/2022/05/25/nra-contributions-politicians-lobbying-gun-rights-groups-record-2021-ted-cruz/

"Spending on House and Senate races generally pales in comparison to the amount these groups spend on presidential and gubernatorial elections. For instance, in 2020, the NRA alone spent over $12 million campaigning against Biden and another $4.5 million in favor of Donald Trump. (Some high-profile Senate races, like Jon Ossoff vs David Purdue in Georgia in 2020, capture millions in spending, but the NRA’s candidates lost those races.)

That said, Texas Senator Ted Cruz has been the biggest beneficiary of those groups when it comes to campaign spending. A separate study by OpenSecrets looking at funds received by gun rights groups from 1989-2020 shows he has received a disproportionately larger amount of funds from those groups, compared to other lawmakers.

Cruz received $442,333 in that time period, compared to $248,058 to Steve Scalise, the second-largest recipient of funds from gun rights groups.

Ted Cruz (R, Texas) – $442,333

Steve Scalise (R, La.) – $248,058

John Cornyn (R, Texas) – $238,875

Pete Sessions (R, Texas) – $202,926

Ron Johnson (R, Wis.) – $197,993

John Thune (R, SD) – $186,260

Mitch McConnell (R, Ky.) – $179,557

Ken Calvert (R, Calif.) – $166,116

Pat Toomey (R, Penn.) – $162,676

Marco Rubio (R, Fla.) – $161,044

Scalise being #2 on that list is rich given he himself was shot by a lunatic…but given that he’s a moronic dinosaur, not entirely surprising he’s lacking sense.

[Jockey]

Interesting to see Toomey on that list, as he’s been willing to try to find some bipartisan solutions regarding gun violence.

Perhaps the NRA wants to make sure that any of his solutions don’t solve too much.

I’m not surprised. I always thought his ‘moderate’ schtick was a joke.

[Jockey]

So much for the good guys with guns garbage.

The good guys just need more guns.

[CountryRoads]

So much for the good guys with guns garbage.

Sounds like the police were useless, but wasn’t the suspect neutralized by a good guy with a gun?

[MU82]

I’m not surprised. I always thought his ‘moderate’ schtick was a joke.

I don’t know enough about his politics overall. I do know that he was working with Manchin on bipartisan gun violence legislation but his party wouldn’t let it happen.

[Pakuni]

Sounds like the police were useless, but wasn’t the suspect neutralized by a good guy with a gun?

19 dead children later.
Seems not the most effective method of prevention

[Pakuni]

Yeah but that nets out with the money Cruz is losing from the doors lobby

He really is the dumbest supposedly smart man around, isn't he?

[Uncle Rico]

Not a great look for the cops.

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

I know a Chicago cop who said after the Parkland incident, he wasn’t sure what he would do in that situation. 

[tower912]

The security guard/retired police officer engaged the shooter in Buffalo.   He actually hit the body armor clad mass murderer.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Apparently Uvalde also has a SWAT team that toured the schools earlier this year.

Look I don’t know enough to criticize the police response here, but here we had an expensive SWAT team in a city of 25,000 who looked cool when they posed for pics on Facebook, but actually didn’t really keep the community safer.

We really suck at doing the hard stuff and focus on the superficial.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

IDK if this actually means anything, but I have seen more “we gotta do something” comments from the conservative, Trump supporters on my Facebook feed the last couple of days than I have after previous incidents like this. Perhaps this was so horrific, and so many of the myths around these incidents have been shown to be wrong, that there actually might be movement on some sensible legislation.

[🏀]

Not a great look for the cops.

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

1. The Thin Blue Line was too thin
2. Uvalde didn’t back the blue enough

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Scalise being #2 on that list is rich given he himself was shot by a lunatic…but given that he’s a moronic dinosaur, not entirely surprising he’s lacking sense.

The Simpsons covered this 25 years ago
Sideshow Bob got out of prison for his attempted murder of Krusty the Clown.  He claimed he was reformed and ran for Springfield mayor.
They show the residents voting including Krusty who says, "Well he did try to kill me.  But I sure could use that tax cut.". Then votes for him.
Then it turns out Bob was scamming everyone again

[tower912]

IDK if this actually means anything, but I have seen more “we gotta do something” comments from the conservative, Trump supporters on my Facebook feed the last couple of days than I have after previous incidents like this. Perhaps this was so horrific, and so many of the myths around these incidents have been shown to be wrong, that there actually might be movement on some sensible legislation.

The devil is in the details.  What is the something they want to do?   

[Hards Alumni]

Brother dgies I think this is an important point.  There should be far more passion and comprehensive discussions about Chicago violence and other major cities.  Little kids have gotten killed there just like in Texas yesterday.  The vast, vast, vast amount of gun related homicides are from handguns, not AR-15's.   It's a terrible situation.

Look guys, Chicago isn't the cesspool you have been lead to believe.  It's 10th.  So this trope that Chicago is some sort of daily massacre situation is an objective fallacy and a narrative pushed by a lot of people around here.  In 2021, it wasn't even in the top 20, and in 2022 it was 10th.

Additionally, let's stop the lie that it is only cities with Democrat mayors and governors.

[🏀]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CeAfWQXAztm/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Whole lot of body armor and guns, not a lot of protecting.

[lawdog77]

Look guys, Chicago isn't the cesspool you have been lead to believe.  It's 10th.  So this trope that Chicago is some sort of daily massacre situation is an objective fallacy and a narrative pushed by a lot of people around here.  In 2021, it wasn't even in the top 20, and in 2022 it was 10th.

Additionally, let's stop the lie that it is only cities with Democrat mayors and governors.

Well it's no St Louis in terms of rate, but in terms of number of murders it did lead the pack-.797 murders in 2021, New York and LA combined for 872-to put it into perspective.

[MU82]

Stop with the ideas for any kind of gun reform, people. There is absolutely nothing any country can do about this stuff, which is why just about every country in the world has the same kind of mass-shooting problems America does.

Oh wait ...



(And that doesn't even count all of our deadly mass shootings the last 3 years. But hey, it's a mental health issue. Which we won't really try to do anything about, either. 'Murica!)