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JakeBarnes

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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2018, 08:51:04 PM »
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
9 point neutral court loss to (at worst) a top 5 team. 3 hours ago, everyone would have taken that, and more importantly, that's all it will be seen as in March.

But then we got a taste of what this team SHOULD be in the first half. Thats what is so hard. Moral victories dont count much in March.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2018, 08:51:10 PM »
Quote from: AirPunch on November 21, 2018, 08:49:22 PM
We may be top 3 in a 2 bid league.

True. 
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goldeneagle91114

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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2018, 08:51:15 PM »
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
9 point neutral court loss to (at worst) a top 5 team. 3 hours ago, everyone would have taken that, and more importantly, that's all it will be seen as in March.

Disagree. Last year we won the games we were suppose to and lost the games we were supposed to. Did you see where that got us?
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Its DJOver

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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2018, 08:53:31 PM »
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2018, 08:51:15 PM
Disagree. Last year we won the games we were suppose to and lost the games we were supposed to. Did you see where that got us?

This isn't wrong, but it does nothing to disprove my point.  We are expected to win more games this year, if we follow suit and win what we are expected to, we'll be fine.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2018, 08:55:31 PM »
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on November 21, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
I don’t know how you let a team piss away a lead on a 0-22 run without at least calling a time out. Guy can’t coach. He can recruit, but can’t coach.
Word is that he can also do great power point.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2018, 08:56:40 PM »
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:46:30 PM
Yes, I agree.  But let me quote myself again just to reinforce my obnoxious point. :)

Sorry. I was being extremely sarcastic. Our D was solid tonight. And we just couldn’t buy a shot early in the second half.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2018, 08:57:22 PM »
Quote from: whitykj on November 21, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
Cain and anim were already doing it, but too scared to go strong to the basket and absorb contact.  Did you see the actions at the basket we were running with Sam and Joey in the high post with 5 min left to dish to off ball cutters? 


Yes.  But if you are too scared, or too weak, to get to the basket, it really doesn't do you a lot of good.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2018, 08:57:41 PM »
Quote from: Its DJOver on November 21, 2018, 08:53:31 PM
This isn't wrong, but it does nothing to disprove my point.  We are expected to win more games this year, if we follow suit and win what we are expected to, we'll be fine.

I respect your optimism, but I don’t know how anyone could watch the second half tonight and feel like this program is in good hands.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2018, 08:57:49 PM »
Quote from: fjm on November 21, 2018, 08:56:40 PM
Sorry. I was being extremely sarcastic.

Oh, I understood.  Appreciate you posting among the crazies.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2018, 08:58:01 PM »
Most people had this down as a loss, so at least we can say Wojo continues to meet expectations.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2018, 08:58:29 PM »
Chartouny and Morrow- what a bill of goods we were sold that both of them were major pickups.  Neither belong at a Big East school looking to contend.

We’re in major trouble. Seriously overrated talent and depth
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2018, 08:59:40 PM »
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 08:58:29 PM
Chartouny and Morrow- what a bill of goods we were sold that both of them were major pickups.  Neither belong at a Big East school looking to contend.

We’re in major trouble. Seriously overrated talent and depth


JC is what he is.  But I am blown away by how ineffective Ed has been.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2018, 09:00:30 PM »
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 08:58:29 PM
Chartouny and Morrow- what a bill of goods we were sold that both of them were major pickups.  Neither belong at a Big East school looking to contend.

We’re in major trouble. Seriously overrated talent and depth

We lost by 9 on a neutral court to the best team in the country.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2018, 09:01:02 PM »
Anyone making excuses still  for Wojo and staff are no longer admitting that they’re watching crap.  Dominated in two losses and a second half comeback to beat Presbyterian. Lordy
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2018, 09:01:14 PM »
Frustrating as that was a very winnable ballgame tonight. Self adjusted in the second half to just attack attack attack, MU just doesn’t have guys who can defend that or do that on the offensive end.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2018, 09:02:12 PM »
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
We lost by 9 on a neutral court to the best team in the country.
I think that title belongs to Gonzaga...
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2018, 09:02:32 PM »
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
We lost by 9 on a neutral court to the best team in the country.
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And we’re absolutely dominated in the second half. Kansas jumped to early lead and slept walked rest of first half
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2018, 09:02:38 PM »
Quote from: MUeng on November 21, 2018, 09:02:12 PM
I think that title belongs to Gonzaga...

I do not.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2018, 09:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on November 21, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
I respect your optimism, but I don’t know how anyone could watch the second half tonight and feel like this program is in good hands.
Defense is improved over last year (we probably would have given up 100 last year). We just couldn't buy a shot to open the 2nd half. I doubt we'll have another 9 minute drought all year.  Second half hurts, a lot, but I still think there are more positives than negatives.  It's fine if you disagree.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2018, 09:03:16 PM »
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
We lost by 9 on a neutral court to the best team in the country.
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And we’re absolutely dominated in the second half. Kansas jumped to early lead and slept walked rest of first half

I’m guessing Bill Self would tell you they did not sleep walk. But maybe.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2018, 09:03:48 PM »
Kansas didn’t take us seriously until they fell behind and had to
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2018, 09:04:39 PM »
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 21, 2018, 09:03:48 PM
Kansas didn’t take us seriously until they fell behind and had to

Oh.
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2018, 09:04:55 PM »
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 21, 2018, 08:57:22 PM

Yes.  But if you are too scared, or too weak, to get to the basket, it really doesn't do you a lot of good.

My point is that it was obvious that there was no emphasis from the coaching staff in the second half to attack the basket.  Instead to keep shooting 3’s which is exactly what Kansas wanted as they were guarding past the 3 point line and switching screens.  Usually not a good idea to do what the defense wants. 
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2018, 09:05:09 PM »
Quote from: MUDish on November 21, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
MU just doesn’t have guys who can defend that or do that on the offensive end.

Let me quote myself again, because I still don't think people understand.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2018, 08:33:21 PM
Kansas season low score so far....

Offense was the problem today.  Not defense.  Kansas scored 38 in the 1st half, and 39 in the second half. 

Now.  You tell me why MU lost.  (Yes, Markus is amazing, and a problem...)
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Re: It was the best of halves, it was the worst of halves.
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2018, 09:05:45 PM »
Quote from: whitykj on November 21, 2018, 09:04:55 PM
My point is that it was obvious that there was no emphasis from the coaching staff in the second half to attack the basket.  Instead to keep shooting 3’s which is exactly what Kansas wanted as they were guarding past the 3 point line and switching screens.  Usually not a good idea to do what the defense wants.

Who can create their own shots off the dribble?
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