Oso planning to go pro
It's good to have another discussion about the Hausers. It would have more legitimacy if it included mention of their poor shooting the last 10 games of their respective Marquette careers.
Eh. We're fine without him. Sam I missed. His brother? Nah.
Dumb take.
If Markus was so difficult to play with, why didn't Andrew Rowsey have similar issues? Why did Sam score as much as he did? Yes, we had a dynamic scorer that dominated the ball, but other scorers were able to fit in and score around him too. I would love to see Koby burst out this next year, but the feeling I got was that it was less about Markus dominating the ball and more Koby failing to take advantages of his chances when they came.His eFG% was 41.2%. Markus' was 53.0%. Did anyone really want Markus to sacrifice shots for McEwen? I can see the argument for the bigs as both John & Johnson had respectable eFG%. I can even see it for Bailey or Anim, who were closer to Markus in terms of efficiency and it would diversify the offense a bit. Koby...I want the kid to succeed, but his problem wasn't having Markus alongside him, it was that he didn't perform at the level we need him to in order to be a high-level Big East player.
FWIW, I don't think Dawson picks MU if Joey is still here.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
Both can be true - Koby could have played better, shot better, yet it also is true that a players offensive game can be affected by playing with a ball/shot hog of historic/unprecedented proportions.As for Rowsey - He was the PG while playing with Markus, and as a result had the ball in his hands a lot more than an off guard would. Sam and Joey leaving speaks for itself as to how players feel about playing with a shot hog.All of this doesn't mean Markus wasn't sublimely talented, yet the team results weren't great.
Any of the advanced stats guys know if there is any info about how Koby performed when playing alongside Markus versus when Markus was out? I know some may always make the argument that he might not gotten enough of a run with Markus out of the game to really settle, it'd just be interesting to see if there are any numbers out there for/against either argument.
I think you'd have to break that down personally. Synergy doesn't offer that, at least not at my subscription level.
Rowsey was the point guard, so he had the ball a lot. However, he rarely got the ball back after he gave it to Markus. I enjoyed watching Markus last year as I was rooting for him to score. However, he was not a money player when the game was on the line. I posted before the start of last season that Markus was not a clutch player. Many posters disagreed with me. However, the season proved that I was correct in that observation.Markus was an amazing player, but we were never going to be really good with him.
I’ll stop myself there from my head exploding further at this take.
Just my observation, but it seemed to me at the end of games when Markus was not on the floor Koby was more effective in hitting the clutch shot.
Unfortunately this is one big circular argument. Markus was an elite scorer and an incredible representative of the university. However his style of play led to the transfer of two really good players and perhaps the underperformance of teammates (as some would argue) that led to underperformance as a unit (as some would argue).There is no doubt we would have been terrible without him last year especially with Sam and Joey gone but possibly a better “team” if Sam and Joey stayed and Markus went pro.Ultimately we will never know and everyone will have their opinion about it. I wish Markus nothing but the best but am also glad the era is over and we have a chance to see what our team looks like without him. Chris Thomas who scored greater than 2,000 points at ND is a decent comp to Markus Howard and ND had similar results during his tenure with the exception of one sweet sixteen. An objective person watching that ND team would never have thought they were going anywhere in the tournament but would easily make it. Many ND fans I know were glad when the Chris Thomas era was over as well.
The last game of their careers had Howard going something like 1 of 17. But this topic has been beat to death. The hausers would have made Marquette a much better then, end discussion Opps forgot about that debacle against Murray state m
Thanks for making my point. You ignore the below average shooting of the Hausers to end the season to take a shot at Howard. Delegitimizes the discussion.
No..... God you are blind. At the end of the day, Marquette would have been a better team last year minus Howard and plus the Hausers. Marquette would have been even better had it been Howard and the Hausers.
No..... God you are blind. At the end of the day, Marquette would have been a better team last year minus Howard and plus the Hausers.