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You totally misunderstand my post. I don't care what anyone sees in next year's team. I am saying if the following happens:Top-15 ranking all year longTop-3 Big East finishSweet 16If all of those happen, is the rebuild on track? Is that acceptable for year 5?
SultanMatt Carlino was born a basketball player and raised in a 24/7 basketball environment. Wojo did not coach him up one bit. I was specifically talking about one player. This is one argument I can say I know what the hell I am talking about.
BagpipingHe was in Time magazine as an eighth grader. Had offers to major, major D1 as an eiight grader. Through Jr year he and Austin Rivers were neck in neck as class rankings. Again, I know what I am talking about it.
I’m not doubting what you are saying or that you know what you are talking about. I was only confused because it didn’t show him in the top 100 in the services I checked and thought that maybe you could help guide me to your source.
http://verbalcommits.com/players/matt-carlinohttps://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2010/matt-carlino-6556
Acceptable, IF that's not the ceiling, and the program continues an upwards trajectory from there...no steps backwards. Though I would say"it's about time, what took you so long"??
You may know the family, you may be related, but coaching absolutely played a role. Whether it was what Wojo did directly with Carlino or the system he set him up in, Wojo put him in a position where he had greater success than any other year of his career. He did that despite having the worst supporting cast he had ever had. He scored more than he ever had despite playing at the slowest pace. And he did all of that at a more efficient rate than he had ever done before.You can dismiss the staff all you like, but this staff put Carlino in the position to have the season he had. That was absolutely because of the coaching. And as it happened with his second lowest usage rate, it also wasn't because he was featured in this offense, because he was featured even more in the Dave Rose offense at BYU.I don't know their relationship. I don't know what the specifics were. I don't need to know those things to see the system Carlino played in here allowed him to excel moreso than ever before while playing better competition than he faced before. The staff played a role in his best season ever. Discounting that out of hand is nonsensical.Sorry, but there is no way that a player is put alongside the worst supporting cast of his career against the highest level of competition while playing at the slowest pace and he puts up career numbers in terms of raw scoring and efficiency without the coaching staff playing a role, directly or indirectly.
He was ranked 17th as a sophomore when he committed to IU. Fell in rankings after he backed out of IU and moved back to AZ after one season playing high school ball in Indiana.Again, not going to argue on this anymore. Very confident I know what I am talking about.
What took so long? Wojo doesn't have your talent evaluation skills and your ability to recruit the nations top 15-20 players.
BagpipingI was talking argue in general, Brew and Sultan are the experts and was referring to their posts. Truthfully, I don’t give a damn.
Ted you know damn well that this whole "rebuild" COULD have gone quicker..other schools have done it quicker. I know you are going to say how you like the way he's building with 4 year players etc etc, and that's fine. That does not mean he couldn't have rebuilt this thing quicker and STILL been on a 4 year plan, this year and next year etc..It wasn't like he did NOT have the option to bring in "quick fixes" in years one and two. Honestly, it's not his recruiting that really bothers me, although...this current Freshman class doesn't do anything for me(there are no stars), and i said that at the time. It's almost like he got a little "lazy" with this class and did what a lot of teams do in the NFL, draft(recruit) for need, rather then take the best players available. I hope it works out.
BagpipingNo need to apologize. Hate myself for taking the bait on a stupid discussion. Wish I never challenged TAMU on his stating Wojo made Matt a better player.To be honest, I do have a big chip on my shoulder regarding Matt. His first two months at MU he was bashed on here everyday. IMO he was the same player on his last day at MU as he was day one. Again, that is my belief.
Ted you know damn well that this whole "rebuild" COULD have gone quicker..other schools have done it quicker. I know you are going to say how you like the way he's building with 4 year players etc etc, and that's fine. That does not mean he couldn't have rebuilt this thing quicker and STILL been on a 4 year plan, this year and next year etc..It wasn't like he did NOT have the option to bring in "quick fixes" in years one and two. Honestly, it's not his recruiting that really bothers me, although...this current Freshman class doesn't do anything for me(there are no stars), and i said that at the time. It's almost like he got a little "lazy" with this class and did what a lot of teams do in the NFL, draft(recruit) for need, rather then take the best players available. I hope it works out.But, I will ask you a question because I respect your opinions a lot...what have you seen from him thus far as a floor Coach that has you impressed??
Shhh...Goose knows things.
Jesmu84 Your splitting hairs talking about improved numbers. In addition, a top grad transfer should have improved numbers. Matt had more turnovers, less assists and averaged 1.3 more points a game at MU. Hardly numbers that jump out as a different player.And, for the record, my eye test is better than most.