COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[TSmith34, Inc.]

It's a weapon for both sides these days.....science is real and meaningful when it supports your argument and fluid/unsettled when it isn't. It's not about complexity, it's about tribalism and the need to win

False equivalence

[mu03eng]

I think this is the case with all rational, educated people.

Tend to agree, but even within this board that statement doesn't apply. This board has privilege that it is made up of relatively educated individuals that are relatively homogeneous in background and experience. Applying our internal expectations to the broader population is a fool's errand

[mu03eng]

False equivalence

Please expand your hypothesis

[Pakuni]

And now in Texas ...

Texas has reported two consecutive days of record-breaking Covid-19 hospitalizations as the state continues to open businesses and resume activities that were temporarily shuttered due to the coronavirus.
There are currently 2,056 patients sickened with Covid-19 in hospitals across the state as of early Tuesday afternoon, up from a record 1,935 patients Monday, according to updated data from the Texas Department of State Health Services.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/texas-reports-two-consecutive-days-of-record-coronavirus-hospitalizations-weeks-after-reopening.html

[shoothoops]

The current 14 states with their highest 7 day COVID-19 case average:

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1270157207531896833

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wonder where guru is now that the WHO clarified its statment yesterday.

[mu03eng]

Wonder where guru is now that the WHO clarified its statment yesterday.

Looking for some scientist shaped clouds to shake his fist at probably

[mu03eng]

The current 14 states with their highest 7 day COVID-19 case average:

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1270157207531896833

The fact that California is on that list should make people re-evaluate the lockdowns. They locked down early and had some of the most draconian measures and they are just now having their highest infection rate?

[🏀]

Wonder where guru is now that the WHO clarified its statment yesterday.

Rereading the notes from McAdams’ class that he couldn’t take.

[Jockey]

The fact that California is on that list should make people re-evaluate the lockdowns. They locked down early and had some of the most draconian measures and they are just now having their highest infection rate?

No easy answer.

Their prisons are among the worst in the nation for Covid. Huge increases in infections. Orange County is seeing big rises - it has been the site of numerous acts of resistance against statewide stay-at-home orders. Early heat waves drove thousands to congregate at beaches. There is also the problem of the density of the population.

[shoothoops]

Record hospitalizations in Texas:

https://twitter.com/JeremySWallace/status/1270728443282497536?s=19

[Warriors4ever]

If you read the responses on the Twitter thread, one of them claims that the Texas AG told counties not to count prison cases in their totals.

[Jockey]

If you read the responses on the Twitter thread, one of them claims that the Texas AG told counties not to count prison cases in their totals.

This response was priceless.

"What if the President is right and Antifa is breeding 75-year-old super soldiers who fall over on command?"

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

This sounds like good news for mask wearing.


https://www.springfieldmo.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=6939

June 8, 2020
Incubation period closes: no clients contract COVID-19 from salon exposure

The Springfield-Greene County Health Department is encouraged to report that the incubation period has passed from those potentially exposed from Great Clips. No clients of either stylist nor additional coworkers contracted COVID-19 as a result.

“This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent COVID-19,” said Director of Health Clay Goddard. “We are studying more closely the details of these exposures, including what types of face coverings were worn and what other precautions were taken to lead to this encouraging result. We never want an exposure like this to happen, but this situation will greatly expand our understanding of how this novel coronavirus spreads.”

In addition to masking, Great Clips had policies in place that also likely prevented the spread of disease—such as distancing of salon chairs, staggering appointments and other measures that will also be studied, Goddard noted.

Two stylists had tested positive after working at the Great Clips at 1864 S. Glenstone Ave, potentially exposing 140 clients and six other coworkers. No additional clients or coworkers tested positive.

Testing was offered to all those potentially exposed, and 46 people pursued testing—all came back negative. Regardless of testing, all potentially exposed were quarantined for the duration of their exposure period.

For more information about COVID-19, visit our website at health.springfieldmo.gov/coronavirus, email coronavirus@springfieldmo.gov, or call 417-874-1211.

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For media requests, contact Kathryn Wall by phone at 417-874-1205 or email at kwall@springfieldmo.gov

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

That’s an amazing datapoint.  Probably would be a good study for someone in the medical field.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Community spread was likely happening in the US in late January.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6922e1.htm?s_cid=mm6922e1_w

Anecdotally, 2 stories.  1) i was completely laid out for 2 days at the end of January.   Slept for almost 48 hours straight, only other symptom was the worst joint pain I've ever experienced. Wife frequently travels through Detroit, was in Westchester county, NY 2 weeks prior, and we were in Vegas 10 days earlier.   Im scheduled for an antibody screen in two weeks, will be fascinated to see what my results are.

2)  a family from the kids' school had a family member in from Seattle over Christmas and for a few weeks in January. He was sick the whole time he was in Madison.  Soon after, that family got sick, illness spread through the school, and at the same time, the youth hockey program.

Back to news:  Bloomberg had an article about superspreaders today, and how that can explain the spikes in South Korea amd other places.  Its an opinion piece written by a non-medical person, so take it FWIW.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2020-05-28/superspreader-events-might-actually-help-control-covid-19?__twitter_impression=true

Just got my antibody test back.  Negative.

Disappointed, actually.  Wanted to help researchers and give plasma.

[Hards Alumni]

Just got my antibody test back.  Negative.

Disappointed, actually.  Wanted to help researchers and give plasma.

Was it free or low cost?  Where'd you go?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Boy, they sure are taking the hoax to extremes in Brazil, eh guru?

Brazil Is in Coronavirus Free Fall
Hospitals are on the brink of collapse, cemeteries are burying people in mass graves, and still, we refuse to take this virus seriously.

"Given the grimness of our statistics, one might reasonably expect that the population would start strictly adhering to health and safety protocols. But this is not happening. As the cases spread, so does the contempt of certain people in the streets for social-distancing measures. And it’s easy to pinpoint one of the main reasons for this contempt: our president.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, Jair Bolsonaro has shown disdain for everything that doesn’t suit his personal agenda — especially if it’s fact-based news or scientific recommendations. He said in the past that Covid-19 is a “measly cold” and that people would soon see that they’d been “tricked” by governors and media when it came to the outbreak. On April 12, when more than a thousand Brazilians had already died, he proclaimed that “the matter of the virus” was “starting to go away.” When this proved to be wrong, he spent his days fighting against state and municipal shutdowns, deeming them economically disastrous for the country.

He fired our health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, for supporting the isolation measures while resisting Mr. Bolsonaro’s attempts to promote chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as treatments for Covid-19. Along the way, the president has continued to attend pro-government street rallies, shaking the hands of his supporters and drawing large crowds just to appease his ego."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/opinion/brazil-coronavirus-bolsonaro.html

[mu03eng]

Just got my antibody test back.  Negative.

Disappointed, actually.  Wanted to help researchers and give plasma.

DO you know what testing you had? My current understanding is that a positive results means you had it but a negative result means you probably didn't have it but not for sure.

[GooooMarquette]

From the BBC on the U.K. situation:

Coronavirus: 'Earlier lockdown would have halved death toll'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52995064

Prof Ferguson, from Imperial College London, told a committee of MPs: "Had we introduced lockdown measures a week earlier, we would have reduced the final death toll by at least a half.

[GooooMarquette]

DO you know what testing you had? My current understanding is that a positive results means you had it but a negative result means you probably didn't have it but not for sure.

A positive result is more likely to be accurate than a negative one, but it is not certain. This article from the Wall Street Journal provides helpful information about false positives and negatives.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tested-positive-for-coronavirus-antibodies-dont-let-your-guard-down-11591794007

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

And now we are full circle on the asymptomatic merry go round.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/10/dr-anthony-fauci-says-whos-remark-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-was-not-correct.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/10/who-says-we-can-always-do-better-following-confusing-comments-on-asymptomatic-transmission.html

[GooooMarquette]

And now we are full circle on the asymptomatic merry go round.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/10/dr-anthony-fauci-says-whos-remark-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-was-not-correct.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/10/who-says-we-can-always-do-better-following-confusing-comments-on-asymptomatic-transmission.html

Yep. It has long been clear that asymptomatic spread is common with this virus. Even a close listening to the WHO press briefing the other day would have made this fairly clear. It is unfortunate that many chose to emphasize the “very rare“ comment without putting it in its full context.

[mu03eng]

From the BBC on the U.K. situation:

Coronavirus: 'Earlier lockdown would have halved death toll'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52995064

Prof Ferguson, from Imperial College London, told a committee of MPs: "Had we introduced lockdown measures a week earlier, we would have reduced the final death toll by at least a half.

1. After the Imperial College's model that originated the lockdown was found to be painfully wrong I'm not sure how much I trust a model out of them.
2. Locking down sooner obviously would have saved lives, this feels like mental masturbation for those that want to throw darts at leadership for not coming to terms with the unbelievable a week sooner than we did.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Realistically we weren't going to shut down earlier than we did.  And I'm not blaming the President for that.  Until New York started to spiral and the NBA postponed, we were not in that mindset as a nation.