2014 MLB Thread & Pissing Match

[RushmoreAcademy]

Well, if it's his third failure, Braun gets fired, right?

Actually I think Buzz goes to prison.

[buckchuckler]

He's like Ted Williams without roids, Babe Ruth with them...standing ovation...once in a lifetime talent.

How could he be once in a lifetime talent?  He isn't the most talented player in the league right now. 

[NavinRJohnson]

How could he be once in a lifetime talent?  He isn't the most talented player in the league right now. 

He's up there, but I agree. HOF talent? Absolutely. Once in a lifetime? No.

[Blackhat]

This guy can cycle off roids and hit 3 dingers in a game....no other man has done that.

[RushmoreAcademy]

This guy can cycle off roids and hit 3 dingers in a game....no other man has done that.

Also, not to mention that he's a terrible human.  That's got to count for something.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Braun has 3 strikeouts and a triple today, in addition to his 3 HR's yesterday.  What is up with #3 and Braun?  It's Brewers are up 9-4 against Philly, looking like they're going to drop another steamer in Philadelphia.  Life is good !!!

[buckchuckler]

This guy can cycle off roids and hit 3 dingers in a game....no other man has done that.

Tuffy Rhoades?  Also, he beat drug tests in the past, he could certainly still be on roids.  See, Arod, for example. 

[WI inferiority Complexes]

This guy can cycle off roids and hit 3 dingers in a game....no other man has done that.

Why do we think he's no longer on PED's?

[Benny B]

Why do we think he's no longer on PED's?

Why would anyone think that any professional athlete isn't on some sort of PED?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Why do we think he's no longer on PED's?

No, I don't think he was a consistent user of PED's, ever.  He was using testosterone to speed recovery up for an injury.  Otherwise, is muscle mass has stayed consistent and he's never jacked an enormous amount of home runs to suggest he has. 

[wadesworld]

No, I don't think he was a consistent user of PED's, ever.  He was using testosterone to speed recovery up for an injury.  Otherwise, is muscle mass has stayed consistent and he's never jacked an enormous amount of home runs to suggest he has. 

HAH!

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

HAH!

What would make you suggest otherwise?

[🏀]

No, I don't think he was a consistent user of PED's, ever.  He was using testosterone to speed recovery up for an injury.  Otherwise, is muscle mass has stayed consistent and he's never jacked an enormous amount of home runs to suggest he has.  

[🏀]

What would make you suggest otherwise?

What makes you suggest that in the first place?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

What makes you suggest that in the first place?

For the reasons I stated above.  Plus, I'm willing to bet that his numbers this year echo what he's done in the past.  His name never came up before in any rumors, he's not gargantuan, there isn't a spike in his numbers, he didn't fail any other prior tests ....   

I'm not sure how you can argue that he has been a consistent user.  I asked you, but you were unable to bring up any evidence or a plausible theory. 

[Spotcheck Billy]

I think you are confusing the visible signs of steroids with PED's (not much if any visible signs)

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

I think you are confusing the visible signs of steroids with PED's (not much if any visible signs)

A steroid is a PED. 

[🏀]

For the reasons I stated above.  Plus, I'm willing to bet that his numbers this year echo what he's done in the past.  His name never came up before in any rumors, he's not gargantuan, there isn't a spike in his numbers, he didn't fail any other prior tests ....  

I'm not sure how you can argue that he has been a consistent user.  I asked you, but you were unable to bring up any evidence or a plausible theory.  

As Done Deal has pointed out, you are confusing steroids with PEDs.

Why do I think he's been a consistent user? The Union refused to back him or help him. That's your biggest red flag.

Additionally:
He's a liar, and he's story was a one-time excuse. I don't believe proven liars on anything.
He's an egomaniac that will destroy anyone that gets in his way. Like ARod, these guys will do anything to keep playing.
He signed a extremely friendly deal with the Brewers. This was on purpose, no one likes Milwaukee more than truckloads of additional money.
He's never had a huge spike in numbers, which indicates consistent use.
Even if he hits for the same numbers as before, that doesn't prove anything and is an argument of the meathead.

If Braun is clean and only used once, he will have a long prosperous career into his late 30s. If Braun isn't clean he'll either test positive again or he will be out of baseball due to the advanced body breakdown.

[🏀]

A steroid is a PED. 

No one uses steroids anymore outside of the Jersey Shore or Venice Beach.

[BrewCity83]

As Done Deal has pointed out, you are confusing steroids with PEDs.

If Braun is clean and only used once, he will have a long prosperous career into his late 30s. If Braun isn't clean he'll either test positive again or he will be out of baseball due to the advanced body breakdown.

So you're saying we need at least 5 years to judge...?

[🏀]

So you're saying we need at least 5 years to judge...?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

As Done Deal has pointed out, you are confusing steroids with PEDs.

Why do I think he's been a consistent user? The Union refused to back him or help him. That's your biggest red flag.

Additionally:
He's a liar, and he's story was a one-time excuse. I don't believe proven liars on anything.
He's an egomaniac that will destroy anyone that gets in his way. Like ARod, these guys will do anything to keep playing.
He signed a extremely friendly deal with the Brewers. This was on purpose, no one likes Milwaukee more than truckloads of additional money.What does his deal have anything to do with PED's?   What hairbrained theory do you have behind this?
He's never had a huge spike in numbers, which indicates consistent use.
He's been tested repeatedly which would indicate he hasn't consistently used.
Even if he hits for the same numbers as before, that doesn't prove anything and is an argument of the meathead.
The above statement adds nothing to your argument except that it proves you're basing everything on conjecture in your made up fantasy world.  Perhaps you should pop open a Schmidt's Gay and cool off, hombre'

If Braun is clean and only used once, he will have a long prosperous career into his late 30s. If Braun isn't clean he'll either test positive again or he will be out of baseball due to the advanced body breakdown.
How do you know his career will last that long?  What if he gets hurt?  Ohhhh, that means it was because of elevated levels of testosterone.  Do you even know what testosterone does?  

[🏀]

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.

Brush up on the subject and come back later.

[Benny B]

As Done Deal has pointed out, you are confusing steroids with PEDs.

Why do I think he's been a consistent user? The Union refused to back him or help him. That's your biggest red flag.

Additionally:
He's a liar, and he's story was a one-time excuse. I don't believe proven liars on anything.
He's an egomaniac that will destroy anyone that gets in his way. Like ARod, these guys will do anything to keep playing.
He signed a extremely friendly deal with the Brewers. This was on purpose, no one likes Milwaukee more than truckloads of additional money.
He's never had a huge spike in numbers, which indicates consistent use.
Even if he hits for the same numbers as before, that doesn't prove anything and is an argument of the meathead.

If Braun is clean and only used once, he will have a long prosperous career into his late 30s. If Braun isn't clean he'll either test positive again or he will be out of baseball due to the advanced body breakdown.

I'm not defending Braun here (nor will I ever again), but I'm having trouble following your argument here.  Maybe if you could define "consistent use" (i.e. frequency and duration) that might help...

The guy is one step away from being banned from baseball, and having the remainder of his contract voided as a result; one more positive test will cost him over $100M.  Even if everything you said is true, I don't see how anyone could be that type of stupid.

[brandx]

MikeDeane: He's been tested repeatedly which would indicate he hasn't consistently used.

Ah.. this is the crux of the problem. You don't understand the PEDs or masking agents that players take now at all.