Poll:Let’s stop beating around the bush

[Lennys Tap]

Future SAT question :
Crean is to Buzz as Wojo is to :____
A. Stan
B. Etc
C. Etc

B.Ghandi and C. John Wooden

[Jon]

I just want to be on record as voting to keep Wojo.

I also think the posters here asking for his firing are hurting recruiting.

If anything is hurting recruiting it's not a group of chuckleheads on a fan site.   

What's killing recruiting is a coach who cannot achieve superior results. Every prep star sees himself cutting down the nets. I think more than one recruit is out there asking if Wojo will give him that opportunity to shine in March.

[MUHoopsFan2]

If anything is hurting recruiting it's not a group of chuckleheads on a fan site.   

What's killing recruiting is a coach who cannot achieve superior results. Every prep star sees himself cutting down the nets. I think more than one recruit is out there asking if Wojo will give him that opportunity to shine in March.

You are nuts....Wojo is EXCELLENT! He has achieved good results in the turning over of this team. No way in the world his job should be in question....

[MUHoopsFan2]

So if you are AD—option C—ensure the succession plan is ready. 

Are are crazy! Wait until next year...calm down. Wojo and his team will be just fine.

[MUHoopsFan2]

I agree with this analysis.

The losing streak just happened at the wrong time...that is all. it's unfortunate. Markus was not 100% and you really felt the absence of Greg Elliott who did not play all year and a very unreliable Chartouny who was not a step up guy at all....

You can't have shaky guard play in college basketball. They have to bring it every night. if they are taken out of the game or hurt you will have a tough time. 

We couldn't find that consistent #3 guy and get out of the way of some bad whistles in some close games. FIRING IS NOT ALWAYS THE SOLUTION. No one has to be fired. 

No reason to panic.

[Goose]

bilsu

Come on, do you really believe Scoop can help or hurt in recruiting?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

The losing streak just happened at the wrong time...that is all.

This is important.  For those that want to look through the losing streak (those losses could have happened anytime during the season) - I tend to look at KenPom.  We are at 32 (5 seed) - which seems about right in hindsight (based on strength of who we beat, down BEast, etc).  Two years ago we were at 32 (10 seed).  So essentially the results say our Wojo-peak is just out of the top-25.  That's what's happened and why some are so frustrated.  All the match-ups, tough bounces, nicks, lost 6 of 7, etc are just noise now.

I am glad some folks have hope -- I hope it comes true. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

bilsu

Come on, do you really believe Scoop can help or hurt in recruiting?

Help? No. Hurt? It's absolutely possible.

[brewcity77]

Help? No. Hurt? It's absolutely possible.

It's the most public window into our fanbase. It can definitely hurt recruiting.

[Lennys Tap]

Help? No. Hurt? It's absolutely possible.

Every school has a version of Scoop. And every one has comments that range from the sublime to to ridiculous. Attacking the players ("choking dogs who peed down their legs") could certainly undermine recruiting and sabotage the program in general. Criticizing a coach after a disappointing collapse in what looked like a special season? Meh.

[Goose]

Lenny

Of course every program has a version of scoop. There is not a program in college ball that does not have folks question the program online. In addition, 90% of the posts on scoop are at least neutral in regards to Wojo and the team.

[brewcity77]

In addition, 90% of the posts on scoop are at least neutral in regards to Wojo and the team.

It's definitely not the 90% that cause potential problems.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

All my comment was meant to say was that Scoop could hurt recruiting, not what on scoop could hurt recruiting. And yes, all programs have a scoop that can hurt recruiting. Scoop is not unique. Well, not unique in that sense

[Goose]

brew

IMO, this site is a walk in the park in regards to criticism of Wojo. The harshest critics are from here being brutal. I actually applaud the critics for using some self control in their posts.

[Coleman]

Next year is a big year. I like Wojo, but he definitely needs to deliver the goods next year. But he deserves to have that opportunity without people calling for his head.

This thread is premature for that reason.

[4everwarriors]

Manyana, manyana I just met a girl named manyana, hey?

[brewcity77]

brew

IMO, this site is a walk in the park in regards to criticism of Wojo. The harshest critics are from here being brutal. I actually applaud the critics for using some self control in their posts.

I'm not talking about the criticisms of Wojo. I agree that most are fair. But the way some of our players have been treated at times can be pretty disturbing. Luke, Derrick, Vander & others have been exposed to some really unwarranted criticisms.

It's a minority, no doubt, and probably even less than the 10% you suggest, but it just takes the wrong recruit or family member seeing the wrong post at the wrong time. I don't think it's a common occurrence, but I do think it happens.

[tower912]

Most are fair.  Sadly it is the handful that tend to be remembered most.

[muguru]

You now what hurts recruiting more than anything else?? Not winning. Specifically not winning in March on the biggest stage. That matters a lot to kids. Perhaps MU should try that sometime.

[Goose]

guru

I wish Wojo coached and recruited like you attack on here. Winning is a pretty good way to attract kids to program. I am sure you will get 4-5 posters telling you that we are winning.

[Herman Cain]

You now what hurts recruiting more than anything else?? Not winning. Specifically not winning in March on the biggest stage. That matters a lot to kids. Perhaps MU should try that sometime.

I agree with this analysis

[Pakuni]

You now what hurts recruiting more than anything else?? Not winning. Specifically not winning in March on the biggest stage. That matters a lot to kids. Perhaps MU should try that sometime.

The top recruiting class for 2019 currently is Arizona, which lost in the first round last year and didn't make the tournament this year.
Fourth is USC, which has won one tournament game in the past six seasons (and only made the tourney twice).
Sixth is Georgia, which has won one tournament game in the last 20 years.
Eighth is Memphis, which hasn't appeared in the tournament since 2014.

Among the top 10 classes in 2019 were LSU, UCLA, Maryland, Texas and Indiana ... teams without a whole lot of March wins of late.

[muguru]

The top recruiting class for 2019 currently is Arizona, which lost in the first round last year and didn't make the tournament this year.
Fourth is USC, which has won one tournament game in the past six seasons (and only made the tourney twice).
Sixth is Georgia, which has won one tournament game in the last 20 years.
Eighth is Memphis, which hasn't appeared in the tournament since 2014.

Among the top 10 classes in 2019 were LSU, UCLA, Maryland, Texas and Indiana ... teams without a whole lot of March wins of late.

Arizona, USC, Georgia, LSU, UCLA, Texas, Memphis= Warm Weather

Indiana= History and tradition

Maryland has always done decently recruiting.

[Pakuni]

Arizona, USC, Georgia, LSU, UCLA, Texas, Memphis= Warm Weather

Explains the historical success of Villanova, Syracuse and UConn.

[GOO]

Explains the historical success of Villanova, Syracuse and UConn.

And Gonzaga and the relative success in recruiting that a couple of Wisconsin schools have enjoyed.