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Its DJOver

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #450 on: June 09, 2022, 12:09:26 PM »
To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #451 on: June 09, 2022, 12:11:45 PM »
But Scoopers told me Todd Smith is not doing his job...

Did Stevie put on too much muscle and Todd ruined him?

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #452 on: June 09, 2022, 12:19:17 PM »

But Kenpom analytics do not take into account the quality of the strength and conditioning coach in year to year ratings - clearly a weakness...



To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #453 on: June 09, 2022, 12:22:19 PM »
Yep, you've got your three drums.  Kenpom, COLE, and 50 pts. Just keep repeating them enough and people might start to take you seriously.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #454 on: June 09, 2022, 12:26:52 PM »
To be fair, Stevie was built like a tank already last year. Guy was a hound as an on ball defender.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #455 on: June 09, 2022, 12:28:53 PM »
You forgot the fourth - SilverWarrior's posts - I don't like them...

And the fifth - NCAA projections and discussing potential tourney matchups in pre-season, and prior to February...


Yep, you've got your three drums.  Kenpom, COLE, and 50 pts. Just keep repeating them enough and people might start to take you seriously.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #456 on: June 09, 2022, 01:41:27 PM »
You forgot the fourth - SilverWarrior's posts - I don't like them...

And the fifth - NCAA projections and discussing potential tourney matchups in pre-season, and prior to February...
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #457 on: June 09, 2022, 02:37:07 PM »
To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.


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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #458 on: June 15, 2022, 02:47:32 PM »
Some Marquette health updates from Shaka Smart today.

- Grad transfer Zach Wrightsil
 had a knee scope soon after arriving but should be good in July.

- Tyler Kolek had an emergency appendectomy in May (but he wanted to play the next day). #mubb

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #459 on: June 15, 2022, 03:42:34 PM »
Sounds like Oso had an incredible Spring and is going to be a focal point of the offense.

"He's going to handle the ball more than anyone that plays that position." Goes onto say "For bigs that want to have the ball in their hands, want to attack, want to make decisions, want to be playmakers, our style's great for that."

BIG things ahead for Oso!

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1537170281743233024?t=vSYH7zxgVma-Dskzc9jubg&s=19
 
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #460 on: June 15, 2022, 03:59:37 PM »
Sounds like Oso had an incredible Spring and is going to be a focal point of the offense.

"He's going to handle the ball more than anyone that plays that position." Goes onto say "For bigs that want to have the ball in their hands, want to attack, want to make decisions, want to be playmakers, our style's great for that."

BIG things ahead for Oso!

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1537170281743233024?t=vSYH7zxgVma-Dskzc9jubg&s=19

Big man bringing the ball up court.  Just like Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Durant, Lebron and others do.

Next on Scoop, Oso getting drafted in 2023.  Should be interesting concept, but hope he gets in and around basket after, this team will need the big man getting some rebounds.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #461 on: June 15, 2022, 04:29:01 PM »
Are we going to pretend we didn't watch Oso play last year?

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #462 on: June 15, 2022, 04:41:24 PM »
He improved greatly over his first year.  If he fills out and continues to improve at the same pace, why not?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #463 on: June 15, 2022, 04:41:55 PM »
Are we going to pretend we didn't watch Oso play last year?

You can pretend whatever you want. Shaka said he's going to handle the ball more than any Center in the country. That's news whether you think so or not.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #464 on: June 15, 2022, 04:58:15 PM »
He improved greatly over his first year.  If he fills out and continues to improve at the same pace, why not?

I mean he never played his freshman year so it’s not really a reasonable benchmark to compare the two seasons.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #465 on: June 15, 2022, 05:43:12 PM »
I would say going from 38 minutes for the season to 20-ish minutes per game is a great benchmark for comparison.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #466 on: June 15, 2022, 05:51:24 PM »
I would say going from 38 minutes for the season to 20-ish minutes per game is a great benchmark for comparison.

How can you say he improved if he never played year 1 ? Last year was his first season of real game time.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #467 on: June 15, 2022, 05:52:27 PM »
How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #468 on: June 15, 2022, 05:57:41 PM »
How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?
This has all the makings of a classic ‘scoop argument

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #469 on: June 15, 2022, 05:59:12 PM »
Yes.  Going from non-contributor to contributor is ipso facto proof of improvement.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #470 on: June 15, 2022, 06:03:15 PM »
Yes.  Going from non-contributor to contributor is ipso facto proof of improvement.
I’m with you.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #471 on: June 15, 2022, 06:09:00 PM »
How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?

Justin Lewis improved greatly from freshman to sophomore year. Oso just never played his freshman year and this last season was his first season of game action.

Lots of promise and I’m sure he’ll be greatly improved after last season and this off season.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #472 on: June 15, 2022, 07:30:36 PM »
How can you say he improved if he never played year 1 ? Last year was his first season of real game time.

Seriously?

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #473 on: June 15, 2022, 08:20:40 PM »
Seriously?

It’s not a knock on Oso. Just thought it was odd to say he greatly improved between years one and two when we saw nothing from him year one for various reasons.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #474 on: June 15, 2022, 09:20:40 PM »
It’s not a knock on Oso. Just thought it was odd to say he greatly improved between years one and two when we saw nothing from him year one for various reasons.

With the obvious one being if he was good enough for significant minutes, he would've played. Especially on a team with a losing record that didn't have another center to spell Theo John.

What's odd to say is a guy going from virtually not playing to nearly 20 mpg not being an indicator of improvement.
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