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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #375 on: June 02, 2022, 12:02:51 PM »
When you are trying to build a culture as Shaka said, do you really want to become dependent on the new one and done designer drug?  That's quite a message to returning players who put in the work only to be recruited over every year.

So to answer your question, yes.
I think coaches are always trying to recruit players better than their current roster.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #376 on: June 02, 2022, 12:49:28 PM »
Marquette Basketball just posted on IG of a workout this morning and I'll say this...these guys look built.

The concerns some on here have of being to small or weak might not be as big of a problem as you once thought. These guys have all clearly developed physically from where they once were.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #377 on: June 02, 2022, 01:16:26 PM »
Yeah it sure looks like Shaka is pushing more of a Buzz style summer program, pretty noticeable gains on the returning guys.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #378 on: June 02, 2022, 01:25:10 PM »
Good thing we’ve got LIU on the schedule!
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« Reply #379 on: June 02, 2022, 06:59:41 PM »
Marquette Basketball just posted on IG of a workout this morning and I'll say this...these guys look built.

The concerns some on here have of being to small or weak might not be as big of a problem as you once thought. These guys have all clearly developed physically from where they once were.
We did not look weak last year until we got into the Big East. It is hard to compare players strength until you see them on the floor with other power 6 teams.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #380 on: June 03, 2022, 10:56:05 AM »
crap - not in Rothstein’s Top 45?  Might as well cancel the season.  Or maybe wait until Value Add and Kenpom confirm this.




Marquette no longer in Jon Rothstein’s Top 45. Disappointing. Optimistically MU can make the Big Dance yet but realistically MU has lost more than MU has gained. Frustrating.

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« Reply #381 on: June 03, 2022, 12:43:12 PM »
crap - not in Rothstein’s Top 45?  Might as well cancel the season.  Or maybe wait until Value Add and Kenpom confirm this.

Can’t wait to see where KenPom pre-season has them.  Always a good indicator of what to expect and what will need to happen for them to be a top team.  It’s why head coaches use KenPom among other reasons.
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« Reply #382 on: June 03, 2022, 12:51:12 PM »
Can’t wait to see where KenPom pre-season has them.  Always a good indicator of what to expect and what will need to happen for them to be a top team.  It’s why head coaches use KenPom among other reasons.

Hoops Explorer has Marquette 48th. (more defense focused)

Bartorvik has Marquette 62nd. (more offense focused)


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« Reply #384 on: June 03, 2022, 02:18:41 PM »
Hoops Explorer has Marquette 48th. (more defense focused)

Bartorvik has Marquette 62nd. (more offense focused)
With Lewis I felt the best we would do would be one and done again.
Without Lewis this is still the best we will do. We just have less chance to get a bid to lose in first round without Lewis.

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« Reply #385 on: June 03, 2022, 03:41:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1532735181215391747?s=21&t=W1yGN2hV0Mn8ZNxGAiv_GQ

Keeyan Itejere is huge. He did some incredible work during his Redshirt season. Good for him.
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« Reply #386 on: June 03, 2022, 04:37:20 PM »
Keeyan Itejere is huge. He did some incredible work during his Redshirt season. Good for him.

He’ll need to careful to not hit his head on the rim.  Easy hops for that young man. 

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« Reply #387 on: June 03, 2022, 04:47:20 PM »
Keeyan Itejere is huge. He did some incredible work during his Redshirt season. Good for him.

That is some insane athleticism. 😳 :-[
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« Reply #388 on: June 03, 2022, 05:18:28 PM »
Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.
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« Reply #389 on: June 03, 2022, 05:34:25 PM »
Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.

No question about that Tower.  Skilled basketball players who can get the job done are needed first and foremost.  But off the chart athleticism can’t hurt. 

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« Reply #390 on: June 03, 2022, 05:46:06 PM »
Agreed.  Off the charts athleticism is a great building block.   But they will have to guard 6'11, 250.   Conversely, if MU is able to rebound and push tempo, 6'11, 250 will have to try to keep up with their sprint up the floor.
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« Reply #391 on: June 03, 2022, 05:54:25 PM »
Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.
I think the expectations for a player who has spent a  year training in  a high major program should be different than for one who has reportedly ( according to coach Smith) played very limited games due to Covid that last two years. The baseline athletics can only help ease the transition. 
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« Reply #392 on: June 03, 2022, 06:01:47 PM »
With Lewis I felt the best we would do would be one and done again.
Without Lewis this is still the best we will do. We just have less chance to get a bid to lose in first round without Lewis.

This doesn’t make much sense.

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« Reply #393 on: June 03, 2022, 06:04:09 PM »
Agreed.  Off the charts athleticism is a great building block.   But they will have to guard 6'11, 250.   Conversely, if MU is able to rebound and push tempo, 6'11, 250 will have to try to keep up with their sprint up the floor.

I’m far too lazy to look at the rosters of team’s we’ll be playing but are we really going to face many 6’11, 250:guys?

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« Reply #394 on: June 03, 2022, 06:09:00 PM »
I assume so.  But I don't know for certain.
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« Reply #395 on: June 03, 2022, 07:22:38 PM »
This doesn’t make much sense.

If you say it in Eeyore's voice, it starts becoming more clear.
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« Reply #396 on: June 03, 2022, 10:06:33 PM »
This doesn’t make much sense.
Sure it does. With or without Lewis in my opinion the best MU could do this coming season is a first round NCAA loss.

The only difference Lewis would of made was increasing our chance to make the tournament. 

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« Reply #397 on: June 03, 2022, 10:48:31 PM »
Sure it does. With or without Lewis in my opinion the best MU could do this coming season is a first round NCAA loss.

The only difference Lewis would of made was increasing our chance to make the tournament.

It is quite literally impossible to speculate how far they could go in an NCAA tournament on June 3rd. We don't even know what we have yet.

I think it's quite likely they are in the 5-7 range again with a shot at a bid due to the fact that they return everyone they were supposed to. Development and retention are real and Shaka develops.
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« Reply #398 on: June 03, 2022, 11:04:01 PM »
It is quite literally impossible to speculate how far they could go in an NCAA tournament on June 3rd. We don't even know what we have yet.

I think it's quite likely they are in the 5-7 range again with a shot at a bid due to the fact that they return everyone they were supposed to. Development and retention are real and Shaka develops.

Definitely not literally impossible to speculate how far the team can go in the NCAA Tournament.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #399 on: June 04, 2022, 12:09:20 AM »
I’m far too lazy to look at the rosters of team’s we’ll be playing but are we really going to face many 6’11, 250:guys?

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