2016-17 Schedule

[Herman Cain]

There is absolutely no indication that Marquette has any interest in a 3 for 1 with either UWM or UWGB.

Per Milwaukee Business Journal:
“Amanda (UWM athletic director Amanda Braun) and I actually have had a number of conversations," Scholl said. "Is there any chance? There is a chance we will play some games. We certainly have not made any commitments. We’ll see where that goes.”

I contacted Braun for a comment on those discussions. Here is her response via email:

“A game between Milwaukee and Marquette would energize our alumni, students and fans as well as be great for the city by helping generate interest in college basketball early in the season,” Braun said. “We have had some initial discussions with Marquette, but no agreement to play has been reached at this point.”

[brewcity77]

There is absolutely no indication that Marquette has any interest in a 3 for 1 with either UWM or UWGB.

+1

I don't know what "discussions with the Athletic Department" anyone else has had, but I have no problem saying that Mike Broeker told me point blank that Marquette is not interested in giving up a road game unless they get a high-major home game in return.

"Under the right circumstances" would pretty much have to be the Big 10 offering UW-M or UW-GB to join their league as a basketball only school.

EDIT: So the source is a throwaway comment in the MBJ (what else could Scholl say, "screw those guys"?) and a comment from Braun that she wants to play Marquette? Well DUH she wants to play Marquette. Because her moribund program has failed to generate interest under her leadership. By the same token, I want a suitcase of untraceable $100 bills to turn up in my garage tomorrow, but that's probably not happening either.

[GGGG]

Marquette would never publicly say that it is very unlikely that they would play either. But it is unlikely.

[Herman Cain]

+1

I don't know what "discussions with the Athletic Department" anyone else has had, but I have no problem saying that Mike Broeker told me point blank that Marquette is not interested in giving up a road game unless they get a high-major home game in return.

"Under the right circumstances" would pretty much have to be the Big 10 offering UW-M or UW-GB to join their league as a basketball only school.

EDIT: So the source is a throwaway comment in the MBJ (what else could Scholl say, "screw those guys"?) and a comment from Braun that she wants to play Marquette? Well DUH she wants to play Marquette. Because her moribund program has failed to generate interest under her leadership. By the same token, I want a suitcase of untraceable $100 bills to turn up in my garage tomorrow, but that's probably not happening either.

Your very invested in not seeing this happen. Mike Broeker does not call the shots.

[brewcity77]

Your very invested in not seeing this happen. Mike Broeker does not call the shots.

No...apparently you think Amanda Braun does 

[jsglow]

Sorry, struggling with my highlights here.  There won't be a buy game around 12/13-14 because of Finals.  Never happens.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Saturday, November 26- Houston Baptist

HPU was 17-16 last season, 224 in the RPI.

Lost in the first round of the CBI, to end the season at 17-17. Looks like they lose three starters.

[Herman Cain]

Saturday, November 26- Houston Baptist

HPU was 17-16 last season, 224 in the RPI.

Lost in the first round of the CBI, to end the season at 17-17. Looks like they lose three starters.

Famous HBU Alumni Colin Montgomerie.

[jsglow]

Looking at this a little more.  I think they squeeze in a low cupcake on Sunday, 11/20.

[martyconlonontherun]

I guess i don't understand why we don't do a buy game against UWM once every three years. Would they be that opposed to it? They get the money for being the away team and don't have to travel. If the games are spread out enough, fans/media won't make a big deal that its always at Marquette. I wish they would be a little bit more open and say look we bring in 14K fans every game while UWM brings in 2k. We have no reason to play an extra away game, so it is up to UWM to play here.

[Jay Bee]

Saturday, November 26- Houston Baptist

HPU was 17-16 last season, 224 in the RPI.

Lost in the first round of the CBI, to end the season at 17-17. Looks like they lose three starters.

The 17 wins was actually only 13 (4 non D-I victories don't do anything for the RPI). Were sitting at 225 in the RPI on Selection Sunday thanks to 10 conference wins (started 8-0, then nosedived, going 2-8 in their last 10 games leading up to the conference tourney).

Odunsi was a senior.. had a usage of 31.3 - top 20 in the nation - and a ridiculous free throw rate -- shot as many FT's as FG's and had the nation's highest estimated fouls drawn per 40 at 9.6. If you go back to pre-Odunsi.. 2013-14, the team won 4 D-I games.

Could turn out to be a stinker for our RPI.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Looking at this a little more.  I think they squeeze in a low cupcake on Sunday, 11/20.

Doubt it. They announce it in order by date.

[GGGG]

Nov. 30 - Western Carolina.  Last year an RPI of 167.  Solid buy game.

[GB Warrior]

Nov. 30 - Western Carolina.  Last year an RPI of 167.  Solid buy game.

Good on paper, but from the looks of it, they're losing their top 4 scorers. Still better than Stetson

[Smokin' Jae]

Nov. 30 - Western Carolina.  Last year an RPI of 167.  Solid buy game.

Lost their top four scorers from last year. Certainly could be worse and seems as though Broeker and Co. have learned their lesson from last year and are placing more of an emphasis on RPI

[mu03eng]

I guess i don't understand why we don't do a buy game against UWM once every three years. Would they be that opposed to it? They get the money for being the away team and don't have to travel. If the games are spread out enough, fans/media won't make a big deal that its always at Marquette. I wish they would be a little bit more open and say look we bring in 14K fans every game while UWM brings in 2k. We have no reason to play an extra away game, so it is up to UWM to play here.

UWM has zero issue with a 3 for 1...they'd do it in a heartbeat at this point. MU should no play a return game with UWM, full stop. MU is the one stopping a 3 for 1 or 4 for 1 because there is no value in Marquette playing a road game at UWM, giving up the revenue that comes with a home game and the opportunity to have a home and home with a legitimate opponent.

[mu03eng]

Lost their top four scorers from last year. Certainly could be worse and seems as though Broeker and Co. have learned their lesson from last year and are placing more of an emphasis on RPI

Actually not totally sold on the lesson learned here. Houston Baptist and Western Carolina would have been fine on the schedule last year....this year we don't know because there seems significant turnover on their rosters.

Western Carolina out performed last year....you'd have to go back to 2010 for the last time they finished in the top 200 in Kenpom, they are usually more of a 250 type team.

Houston Baptist was in the top 275 on KenPom for the first time ever last year, previously they hadn't finished higher than 314. So maybe HBU is trending up...but that could be a sub 300 RPI team....you only get one of those on the schedule in my opinion.

My worry is the post-Bucky, pre-conference games...those are usually Broeker's low value RPI games and we've already got at least one low value game likely in HBU.

[brewcity77]

Thoughts on the new announcements:

Houston Baptist

Last year's record was okay, but let's not forget they had 4 non-D1 wins, so their record was actually 13-16 in terms of RPI qualification. In the 5 years before that they totalled 31 wins (excluding D2 schools) so we are bringing in a school that averaged just 6.2 wins in the five years prior to last year's 13 wins, and they lose three of their top five in terms of minutes played (Odunsi, Stuckler, Crayton).

They do have some youngsters that could help pick up the slack, and may have a Marquette connection in the form of William Gates Jr. However, this is a team that plays in a poor league (I've got the Southland 3rd worst in the nation) and has a good chance of regressing. On paper, bringing in last year's 234 RPI team may seem like an improvement, but by season's end there's a very good chance they will be sub-300. Hope I'm wrong.

Western Carolina

At a glance, this will remind people of Houston Baptist. They had an uncharacteristically good year last year and lose four senior starters. While that is true, there are also reasons to be encouraged. The main one for me is Larry Hunter, entering his 12th season with the Catamounts. Hunter has won 8+ league games each of the past 8 seasons with an average of 10 league wins in that time. He knows his league and knows how to get results there. Even if they aren't great, they should at least be middle of the pack in their league, and getting 8+ wins virtually guarantees a team will at least have double-digit wins on the season.

Also during that eight year stretch, WCU has been in the top-100 in non-conference schedule every single year. They also play in a better low-major league (I rank them 12 of the 21 "buy game" type leagues), so in terms of the opponent's opponents factor in RPI, they shouldn't be a hindrance.

Losing Mike Brown and the rest of the senior class could lead to a huge drop-off, but Hunter is used to losing significant pieces and keeping his program going. I don't necessarily expect greatness, but 8-10 league wins and 12-15 total wins without hurting us from the opponent's opponents perspective is perfectly fine for a buy game.

Georgia (A)

December 4, that should be tomorrow's announcement.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I am cool with HBU and WCU if they're the two worst teams or 2/3 cupcakiest teams on the schedule. But if you add in MU's annual game or two with SWAC opponent and another 300+ RPI team, our non con schedule is going to be subpar, yet again.

[mu03eng]

I am cool with HBU and WCU if they're the two worst teams or 2/3 cupcakiest teams on the schedule. But if you add in MU's annual game or two with SWAC opponent and another 300+ RPI team, our non con schedule is going to be subpar, yet again.

While I have the SWAC concern....what is known is already much better than last year so it won't be doom and gloom just yet. However, if we have more than 1 more 300+ RPI team(I think HBU will be) then we're in a tight spot.

[GGGG]

There are only five "buy games" left right?  And we know one of them is Fresno. 

[mu03eng]

There are only five "buy games" left right?  And we know one of them is Fresno.

This is correct. There are 3 games likely left for the post-Bucky, pre-Con time slot

[phoenixphan87]

http://www.hubison.com/news/2016/7/11/howard-unveils-2016-17-mens-basketball-schedule.aspx

Howard @ Marquette 11/14

Howard play Michigan on 11/11

[brewcity77]

Really hoping for Eastern Michigan or Gardner-Webb for that second 2K home game. One of those and three decent buy games and this will be a great schedule. Even 2/3 decent buy games would be a quality slate.

[GGGG]

This is correct. There are 3 games likely left for the post-Bucky, pre-Con time slot

I thought we figured out there was only two.

One between UGA and UW
UW game December 10
Finals week begin Dec 12 (usually no game)
One on the weekend of Dec 17 and 18
One additional game prior to Christmas.

I am guessing there won't be one between Christmas and the December 28 conference opener.

So will there be TWO buy games during the conference season?  I guess that's what you get when you cram the conference start into two games ending December and the first couple days in January.