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Author Topic: Outside shot at 1 seed still?  (Read 4780 times)

MU82

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2012, 11:48:50 AM »
Any 1, 2 or 3 seed is fine and should give us a good shot (maybe even very good, depending upon matchups) at the Elite Eight. Then it comes down to getting a great individual performance or two (see Wade, D., 2003) and some luck.
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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2012, 11:52:02 AM »
I don't think it will happen, but I'd much rather have a 1 seed over a 2 or 3.

A 1 seed gets to play the 4 or worse in the Sweet Sixteen.

Another advantage of the one seed when you look at the percentages.... they have the highest chance of not playing the expected seeds in the round of 16.  Think how times a 12 or 13 has made it to the Sweet Sixteen.  When you are a 2/3, at best you can normally hope for a 6/7/10/11 in the Sweet Sixteen, and the 10/11 is less often than the 12/13.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2012, 12:11:18 PM »
The more I thought about this, I wouldn't mind being a 1-seed in Phoenix because:

1) The reason Titan mentioned above.

2) There are no "elite" teams on the West Coast this year... that means the best of the 2's, 3's and 4's will get geographical preference and be placed in Boston, Atlanta, or St. Louis.  The "leftovers" will go to Phoenix.  In theory, the Phoenix regional would have the highest 2, the weakest 3, and the highest 4... in reality, if the committee tries to keep teams close to home, your 2-4 seeds in Phoenix could end up being Baylor, Wichita State, and UNLV, respectively.  I would take that regional any day.

(The Atlanta region is virtually guaranteed to be the toughest with Kentucky and one of either NC or Duke already being a virtual lock for that region with Georgetown and OSU or MSU also in the mix).

3) I'm committed to tickets in St. Louis.  I'm also committed to tickets in New Orleans.  That's a lot of traveling for consecutive weekends, and I'd much rather spend my money on the Bayou.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2012, 12:16:11 PM »
If we win out it will not be beating gtown twice. Beating them on Sunday would give ND the 3 seed to our two seed. So the only way we could be gtown again, is by not beating Cuse.

Unless you assume ND loses at home to providence.
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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2012, 12:34:59 PM »
Averaging the rankings in both polls and RPI as of today (2/28), the potential S-Curve (and region based on geographic preference) would be as follows:

1-seeds
KY - Atlanta
Cuse - Boston
Duke - St. Louis
KU - Phoenix

2-seeds
MSU - St. Louis
UNC - Atlanta
MU - Phoenix (can't be seeded in East with Cuse)
Baylor - Boston

3-seeds
OSU - Atlanta
Mizzou - St. Louis
Georgetown - bumped to 4-seed in Atlanta because can't go to Boston or Phoenix (MU and Cuse) and other two regionals taken
Wichita St - Phoenix

4-seeds
Mich - escalated to 3-seed in Boston as result of Georgetown drop
UNLV - Phoenix
Fla - St. Louis
Wisc - Boston (can be placed in Boston because they are 4th team from conference)

Boston - Syracuse, Baylor, Michigan, Wisconsin
Atlanta - Kentucky, UNC, Ohio St, Georgetown
St. Louis - Duke, Mich St, Mizzou, Florida
Phoenix - Kansas, Marquette, Wichita St, UNLV
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 12:43:26 PM »
rpiforecast gives Marquette a 7.19% chance of going 29-5 with an expected rpi of 3.7 if that happens.  Obviously, they don't know which opponents we would be playing but that gives you an idea of where we would be at.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 01:22:04 PM »
3) I'm committed to tickets in St. Louis.  I'm also committed to tickets in New Orleans.  That's a lot of traveling for consecutive weekends, and I'd much rather spend my money on the Bayou.

I'm in the same boat.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 01:47:42 PM »
I want to be the one seed at about 11pm on April 2nd.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 01:50:35 PM »
Were a team with 0 top 20 wins guys....come one time for a reality check. A much as I would love a 1 seed we just do not have the signature wins like the teams ahead of us.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 01:58:41 PM »
If Marquette wins out, we'd pick up two top 20 wins.  In addition, most of the RPI estimations I have seen current through last night have Louisville and Wisconsin both hovering around the 20 spot (some have one or both as top 20).  We could have 4 top 20 wins in a week and a half if we win out.

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Re: Outside shot at 1 seed still?
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 03:25:53 PM »
I'm in the same boat.

I did Indy & Minny in 2003 and was all set to drive down to Nola (if not for a a last-minute business trip that weekend).  I also made the drive to Winston-Salem in '07.  That was all pre-wife & toddling kids, however.  Now it's planes, babysitters, bathroom breaks, decent hotels (wife ain't staying at the Days Inn or Econolodge), Blue & Gold donations, etc.  I think I spent a grand total of less than $400 in each of those years... if MU goes to Nola via StL, I'll be lucky to get out spending less than $4,000.

The things I do for the people and things I love... oh well.  I guess I'd rather have the memories than be a DePaul fan with a couple thousand to burn.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.