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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1250 on: April 07, 2021, 08:19:46 PM »
To be fair, you can only predict what the Athletic department will do with their budget. Cant predict what donors will do.

Had to factor that in though. The alum with $ to get it done were for the most part around when Al was here. They know what's up, and they knew it couldn't go on like that. I was going to be severely down on our long term prospects as a program if we didn't have a cohort that could step up to the plate. Thankfully they did! And the future is brighter as a result.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1251 on: April 08, 2021, 07:02:35 AM »

For what it’s worth, everything I have heard is that Beard was targeted by Texas to be its Head Coach long before Smart left.

Hard for me to believe that Beard can hire 2 D1 head coaches as assistants and a top assistant from a blue blood in a weeks time if there wasn't something brewing in Austin lomg before Shaka left.  I wouldn't trust Beard as far as I could throw Lloyd Moore.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1252 on: April 08, 2021, 07:18:59 AM »
Hard for me to believe that Beard can hire 2 D1 head coaches as assistants and a top assistant from a blue blood in a weeks time if there wasn't something brewing in Austin lomg before Shaka left.  I wouldn't trust Beard as far as I could throw Lloyd Moore.

Love the Lloyd Moore reference.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1253 on: April 08, 2021, 07:29:02 AM »
It probably wasn't a week. It wasn't a coincidence that his hire was announced when it was. Beard's buyout dropped significantly on April 1. Texas Tech lost on March 21. Probably had the contract worked out in a day or two. Then spent the next 2 weeks building his staff.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1254 on: April 08, 2021, 11:26:20 AM »
Mick Cronin gets two year extension at UCLA through 2026-2027, worth a guaranteed $4 Million per year.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1255 on: April 08, 2021, 02:02:10 PM »
Sounds like Jamie McNeily is leaving Buzz after eleven years (!) to join Ben Johnson's new staff at Minnesota.  He was with him at New Orleans, Marquette, Virginia Tech and Texas A&M, and played for him at New Orleans. 

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1256 on: April 08, 2021, 02:17:36 PM »
MN was vacated due to a firing. The coach just happened to find a job after that.

which reduced his buyout to $0:

•   The Gophers athletic department won’t pay one penny in a buyout to former men’s basketball coach Richard Pitino, according to the separation agreement obtained by the Pioneer Press on Wednesday.
•   Pitino’s contract called for a $1.75 million buyout if he was fired before April 30, but a clause called for that to cease when Pitino found similar employment.
•   The Gophers will pay Pitino a one-time sum of $125,000 for “academic incentive bonuses.”
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1257 on: April 08, 2021, 03:31:29 PM »
Sounds like Jamie McNeily is leaving Buzz after eleven years (!) to join Ben Johnson's new staff at Minnesota.  He was with him at New Orleans, Marquette, Virginia Tech and Texas A&M, and played for him at New Orleans.
Good career move. Shows he has value to someone besides Buzz .
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1258 on: April 08, 2021, 11:11:23 PM »
Good career move. Shows he has value to someone besides Buzz .

Interesting. It takes 19 years for a Coach K assistant to establish market value outside of Cameron.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1259 on: April 09, 2021, 08:30:46 AM »
Creighton assistant Paul Lusk is returning to Purdue to be an assistant. He was previously an assistant there.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1260 on: April 09, 2021, 09:16:57 AM »
Creighton assistant Paul Lusk is returning to Purdue to be an assistant. He was previously an assistant there.

Guess he wanted off the plantation, eh?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1261 on: April 09, 2021, 09:24:11 AM »
For anyone that cares, one particular source I have that is fairly well connected at UMBC says that they're taking a look at hiring Wojo but nothing is certain yet.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1262 on: April 09, 2021, 09:30:18 AM »
For anyone that cares, one particular source I have that is fairly well connected at UMBC says that they're taking a look at hiring Wojo but nothing is certain yet.
He can do better than UMBC.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1263 on: April 09, 2021, 09:32:39 AM »
He can do better than UMBC.

I think he can, too. Just saying that the guy I know in the athletics department there said his name had been mentioned by some people.

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« Reply #1264 on: April 09, 2021, 09:40:09 AM »
For anyone that cares, one particular source I have that is fairly well connected at UMBC says that they're taking a look at hiring Wojo but nothing is certain yet.

What? Matt Doherty isn't available?


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1265 on: April 09, 2021, 09:46:23 AM »
He can do better than UMBC.

What's open that's better & would want him?

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« Reply #1266 on: April 09, 2021, 09:53:46 AM »
He can do better than UMBC.

He got 7 years at one of the most well funded P6 basketball programs and was fired.

If you were an AD at a P6 school, would you hire Wojo?

I wouldn't.  He needs to cut his teeth and build something from the ground up.  He crashed the Benz, now he gets to drive the '98 Civic.

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« Reply #1267 on: April 09, 2021, 09:57:38 AM »
He got 7 years at one of the most well funded P6 basketball programs and was fired.

If you were an AD at a P6 school, would you hire Wojo?

I wouldn't.  He needs to cut his teeth and build something from the ground up.  He crashed the Benz, now he gets to drive the '98 Civic.

If you look at some of the lower half P6 schools, his resume is better than many of the coaches hired. We weren’t thrilled with his results, but it’s not like we never made a Tourney and finished 4-14 every year in conference.

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« Reply #1268 on: April 09, 2021, 09:59:00 AM »
If you look at some of the lower half P6 schools, his resume is better than many of the coaches hired. We weren’t thrilled with his results, but it’s not like we never made a Tourney and finished 4-14 every year in conference.

On top of that there is a long list of programs better than UMBC that aren’t in the p6. 

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« Reply #1269 on: April 09, 2021, 10:02:33 AM »
He crashed the Benz, now he gets to drive the '98 Civic.

Nice.

Though I would argue that Honda power plants are among the finest ever engineered and your analogy does disservice to that tradition of excellence. A '98 Civic stands as testament to the nobility of precision.

No, I would say, Wojo crashed the Benz and now tools around town in a Yugo.

What a f#cking disaster that guy was.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1270 on: April 09, 2021, 10:03:49 AM »
He can do better than UMBC.


Possibly. But maybe a mid-major like UMBC would be exactly what he needs to grow as a coach.

His entire coaching career has been as an assistant at a blue blood and a HC at a P6 school with huge resources and great BB history. MU was very patient, but the success just wasn't there. Maybe UMBC can be to him what Ball State was to Majerus...a place to experiment and grow under a light that isn't so bright. And yeah - there may be better non-P6 schools with openings, but who are we to say what might work best for him?

Either way, I wish Wojo nothing but the best in his post-MU career.

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« Reply #1271 on: April 09, 2021, 10:08:17 AM »



Either way, I wish Wojo nothing but the best in his post-MU career.

You are much too generous, Doc. Personally, I don't believe charlatans are worthy of best wishes. Wojo was little more than an actor impersonating Coach K.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1272 on: April 09, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »
Calling UMBC and America East "mid major" may be accurate, but barely.  I mean, that's where Killings is coaching now.

I don't think Wojo could get a P6 job, but A10, MVC, Sun Belt or Southern?  Yes.  And those would be better jobs than UMBC.
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« Reply #1273 on: April 09, 2021, 10:17:03 AM »
If you look at some of the lower half P6 schools, his resume is better than many of the coaches hired. We weren’t thrilled with his results, but it’s not like we never made a Tourney and finished 4-14 every year in conference.

And at those schools he would have less resources.  Again, would you hire him to be your coach if you were say.... Wake Forest?  Boston College?  Vanderbilt?  TCU?  Nebraska?

I don't know man.  I wouldn't put my career on the line to hire Wojo.  Not with his resume.

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« Reply #1274 on: April 09, 2021, 10:18:57 AM »
Nice.

Though I would argue that Honda power plants are among the finest ever engineered and your analogy does disservice to that tradition of excellence. A '98 Civic stands as testament to the nobility of precision.

No, I would say, Wojo crashed the Benz and now tools around town in a Yugo.

What a f#cking disaster that guy was.

Honda is quality, I should have go with '98 Ford Taurus.  The transmissions blew out on those things constantly.  And as we know, Wojo never really made it out of 2nd gear.  Always slipping...