OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel

[JWags85]

You have to assume Harmon will transfer.  Interesting considering his other finalists included Texas and Marquette... 

If so, they will lose their top 3 scorers with Reaves and Manek also leaving.  Blank canvas to work with I suppose.  But likely a couple rough years ahead as Moser gets settled.  The top 2 returning after those 3 will be a pair of guys who already transferred in and would be on their 3rd college coach.

[MarquetteMike1977]

7 hours ago and Not sure if it was mentioned but Duke Associate Head Coach Nathan James New Head Coach At Austin Peay.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Didn't work so well for the Big 10 this year

Probably because it wasn't actually the gauntlet it was hyped up to be

[Herman Cain]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/oklahoma-hiring-loyola-chicagos-porter-moser-to-replace-lon-kruger-as-sooners-coach/

Six year contract. Should be some good coin. 

[JWags85]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/oklahoma-hiring-loyola-chicagos-porter-moser-to-replace-lon-kruger-as-sooners-coach/

Six year contract. Should be some good coin.

I’m gonna guess 6 years, $14MM

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I’m gonna guess 6 years, $14MM

6/18 is my guess. Apparently Loyola made him a ridiculous offer that would have been the most expensive mid-major contract

[Herman Cain]

Maybe Wojo puts his name in the ring for Loyola.  With all the pay raises Porter got, the job might not be a huge step down in pay .

[CountryRoads]

Maybe Wojo puts his name in the ring for Loyola.  With all the pay raises Porter got, the job might not be a huge step down in pay .

Would be a very interesting development, but I almost think Jon Scheyer has passed Wojo in the pecking order. Especially considering Scheyer is from Northbrook.

[NickelDimer]

God help Loyola fans if they have to go from watching a Moser coached team to a Wojo coached team.

I agree with the Moser being a weird fit at OU. Almost feels like he decided he was leaving this year and it was just a matter of what top job was willing to offer him. Hope it works out for him.

[Hards Alumni]

God help Loyola fans if they have to go from watching a Moser coached team to a Wojo coached team.

I agree with the Moser being a weird fit at OU. Almost feels like he decided he was leaving this year and it was just a matter of what top job was willing to offer him. Hope it works out for him.

Or the job he wanted got filled and won't be open any time soon.  Make your money while you can.

[MU82]

That’s one long-arse commute to Norman.

I wish Moser well. Good coach, seems like a decent guy. Glad he got a big-boy job. Glad he avoided DePaul.

[NickelDimer]

Or the job he wanted got filled and won't be open any time soon.  Make your money while you can.

Oh there’s no doubt. My point is it seems like he decided he was leaving for a better job not just one specific job. I don’t fault him at all for that.

[Herman Cain]

That’s one long-arse commute to Norman.

I wish Moser well. Good coach, seems like a decent guy. Glad he got a big-boy job. Glad he avoided DePaul.

Moser employing the Satchel Paige Motto
“Don’t look Back. Something Might Be Gaining On You”

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The idea that Moser would never leave Chicago, and doesn't need a big contract because he grew up relatively wealthy, both go against pretty much everything I have seen from the coaching profession in the last 30 years.

[Uncle Rico]

The idea that Moser would never leave Chicago, and doesn't need a big contract because he grew up relatively wealthy, both go against pretty much everything I have seen from the coaching profession in the last 30 years.

Reality has no place on sports message boards

[Herman Cain]

Local Press Happy for Moser
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-loyola-porter-moser-oklahoma-20210402-5a2tnhuozngzbem3yvg7jzvai4-story.html

[shoothoops]

It's about wanting to compete at the highest levels.

Since Marquette's National Title 44 years ago, MUBB has had:

21 NCAA Tourney appearances
6 NCAA Tourney 2nd weekends
1 NCAA Tourney Final Four.

Oklahoma has had:

30 NCAA Tourney appearances.
11 NCAA Tourney 2nd weekends.
3 NCAA Tourney Final Fours.

Big 12 is bringing in roughly $40 Million per school. (No more MVC bus trips)

Getting a chance to work with Joe Castiglione.

[naginiF]

Looks like Loyola is putting up a fight. Don't know the specifics but a 10 yr deal so I'm guess ing the total $'s are the same just over more years.

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1378096367566983170

[CountryRoads]

Looks like Loyola is putting up a fight. Don't know the specifics but a 10 yr deal so I'm guess ing the total $'s are the same just over more years.

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1378096367566983170

Looks like they are promoting the assistant instead as of this morning.

[shoothoops]

Drew Valentine will be promoted to new Loyola Head Coach. (Borzello)

[MU82]

It's about wanting to compete at the highest levels.

Since Marquette's National Title 44 years ago, MUBB has had:

21 NCAA Tourney appearances
6 NCAA Tourney 2nd weekends
1 NCAA Tourney Final Four.

Oklahoma has had:

30 NCAA Tourney appearances.
11 NCAA Tourney 2nd weekends.
3 NCAA Tourney Final Fours.

Big 12 is bringing in roughly $40 Million per school.

Getting a chance to work with Joe Castiglione.

I haven't read every single post, but is anybody claiming Oklahoma isn't a fine destination for a basketball coach?

Also, time period matters.

If you go back to 2003:

NCAAs: MU 11, OU 12
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 2
FF: MU 1, OU 1

So, OU with one more NCAA appearance, 1 more E8, 1 fewer S16. Pretty darn close.

Or if you go back to when Marquette entered the BEast for the 2005-06 season:

NCAA: MU 10, OU 10
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 1
FF: MU 0, OU 1

So, just about dead even except rather than losing in a second S16, as we did, they went to the FF.

Of course, if you only go back to the start of Wojo:

NCAA: MU 2, OU 5
S16: MU 0, OU 1
E8: MU 0, OU 0
FF: MU 0, FF 1

So that's where we got killed.

All of it "counts," not saying any period is more "important" than any other.

I think we can both agree is that, when hiring a coach, only the future really matters. Let's see where both programs go now with their new leaders.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I haven't read every single post, but is anybody claiming Oklahoma isn't a fine destination for a basketball coach?

Also, time period matters.

If you go back to 2003:

NCAAs: MU 11, OU 12
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 2
FF: MU 1, OU 1

So, OU with one more NCAA appearance, 1 more E8, 1 fewer S16. Pretty darn close.

Or if you go back to when Marquette entered the BEast for the 2005-06 season:

NCAA: MU 10, OU 10
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 1
FF: MU 0, OU 1

So, just about dead even except rather than losing in a second S16, as we did, they went to the FF.

Of course, if you only go back to the start of Wojo:

NCAA: MU 2, OU 5
S16: MU 0, OU 1
E8: MU 0, OU 0
FF: MU 0, FF 1

So that's where we got killed.

All of it "counts," not saying any period is more "important" than any other.

I think we can both agree is that, when hiring a coach, only the future really matters. Let's see where both programs go now with their new leaders.

People aren’t suggesting Oklahoma isn’t a good program. Just that it seems like a strange fit.

[shoothoops]

I haven't read every single post, but is anybody claiming Oklahoma isn't a fine destination for a basketball coach?

Also, time period matters.

If you go back to 2003:

NCAAs: MU 11, OU 12
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 2
FF: MU 1, OU 1

So, OU with one more NCAA appearance, 1 more E8, 1 fewer S16. Pretty darn close.

Or if you go back to when Marquette entered the BEast for the 2005-06 season:

NCAA: MU 10, OU 10
S16: MU 2, OU 1
E8: MU 1, OU 1
FF: MU 0, OU 1

So, just about dead even except rather than losing in a second S16, as we did, they went to the FF.

Of course, if you only go back to the start of Wojo:

NCAA: MU 2, OU 5
S16: MU 0, OU 1
E8: MU 0, OU 0
FF: MU 0, FF 1

So that's where we got killed.

All of it "counts," not saying any period is more "important" than any other.

I think we can both agree is that, when hiring a coach, only the future really matters. Let's see where both programs go now with their new leaders.

You are (unintentionally perhaps) illustrating my point. Some people seem surprised he would take OU but not surprised he would take MUBB.

OU has a good basketball history. They play in a Power 5 League. They have $$$ resources. They have a well respected AD. They won't be taking MVC bus trips any time soon.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You are (unintentionally perhaps) illustrating my point. Some people seem surprised he would take OU but not surprised he would take MUBB.

OU has a good basketball history. They play in a Power 5 League. They have $$$ resources. They have a well respected AD. They won't be taking MVC bus trips any time soon.

People’s “surprise” wasn’t because of the quality of the program. It was because of the narrative that he LOVES Chicago so much that he wouldn’t stray far from there, and may even get a condo in Milwaukee so his kids wouldn’t have to move.

[shoothoops]

People’s “surprise” wasn’t because of the quality of the program. It was because of the narrative that he LOVES Chicago so much that he wouldn’t stray far from there, and may even get a condo in Milwaukee so his kids wouldn’t have to move.

"Narrative."

A more relevant discussion would be continue to dominate your league vs leaving for a hoops friendly Power 5 school.