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TallTitan34

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #825 on: March 28, 2021, 04:09:51 PM »
Hypothetical better move for IU: hiring Woodson, or rehiring Crean?

I think I would have saved $10 million by keeping Archie and adding Matta.

Not sure if that’s enough to appease the IU crowd though.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #826 on: March 28, 2021, 04:15:30 PM »


I think Greg might have coached his last game with Creighton.

If Creighton fires McDermott it would need to turn its credentials as a Jesuit University.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #827 on: March 28, 2021, 04:25:36 PM »
 :-X :-X :-X

The Matta thing was a farce.

Sounds like Mike Woodson to IU.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #828 on: March 28, 2021, 04:55:36 PM »
Who would have thought that Marquette was going to have the biggest splash hire a month ago? Crazy.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #829 on: March 28, 2021, 04:57:59 PM »
I think I would have saved $10 million by keeping Archie and adding Matta.

Not sure if that’s enough to appease the IU crowd though.

Matta as Archie's assistant? Funny!
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #830 on: March 28, 2021, 05:01:30 PM »
MU has definitely had the “ best “ hire so far

Woodson to IU will not work. Noooo
Way.   At his age, with no experience and no real Hs connections he’s gonna recruit and chase 15 / 16 year olds

Riiiiight ...

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #831 on: March 28, 2021, 05:02:17 PM »
Who would have thought that Marquette was going to have the biggest splash hire a month ago? Crazy.
Time will always tell but with MN and IU off the board we clearly made the bigger hire.

I'd be remiss to not point out that Texas is on the clock though and that should be the first of a few dominos.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #832 on: March 28, 2021, 05:03:25 PM »
Who would have thought that Marquette was going to have the biggest splash hire a month ago? Crazy.
Heck, 10 days ago.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #833 on: March 28, 2021, 05:12:04 PM »
Woodson to IU will not work. Noooo
Way.   At his age, with no experience and no real Hs connections he’s gonna recruit and chase 15 / 16 year olds

Riiiiight ...

If Beilein or Pitino had beaten a path to Scholl's door, would you have said the same?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #834 on: March 28, 2021, 05:17:25 PM »
If Beilein or Pitino had beaten a path to Scholl's door, would you have said the same?

Did to stop reading after “at his age”? Beilein and Pitino have been recruiting and coaching college kids the majority of that last decade.  Woodson hasn’t been a part of the college game in literally 40 years

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #835 on: March 28, 2021, 05:20:29 PM »
Probably has already been reported too but per Jon Rothstein Mike Woodson tells me that he has landed in Indiana and is en route to Bloomington to meet with the team.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #836 on: March 28, 2021, 05:21:35 PM »
Who would have thought that Marquette was going to have the biggest splash hire a month ago? Crazy.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #837 on: March 28, 2021, 05:23:32 PM »
Jwags:
I understand.  Both are five years older than Woodson and both would still need to be out on the road doing the things Mike Woodson presumably isn't going to do at 63.  So honest question.  How old is too old?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #838 on: March 28, 2021, 05:28:19 PM »
Jwags:
I understand.  Both are five years older than Woodson and both would still need to be out on the road doing the things Mike Woodson presumably isn't going to do at 63.  So honest question.  How old is too old?

Depends on reputation and staff.  How much is Coach K hitting the road versus his staff hitting the road?  Mike Woodson doesn’t have that luxury because despite coaching in the NBA, he hasn’t put dudes in the NBA or won titles in college.

If he hires a good staff, some of that can be mitigated.  I do believe he’ll be enthusiastic about turning Indiana around but is an uphill battle
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #839 on: March 28, 2021, 05:33:49 PM »
Jwags:
I understand.  Both are five years older than Woodson and both would still need to be out on the road doing the things Mike Woodson presumably isn't going to do at 63.  So honest question.  How old is too old?

The argument is that it’s too old to start. Like mentioned, he has no network, college reputation, inroads to lean on. And he’s not an NBA name that’s gonna resonate with HS age kids.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #840 on: March 28, 2021, 05:36:29 PM »
Depends on reputation and staff.  How much is Coach K hitting the road versus his staff hitting the road? Mike Woodson doesn’t have that luxury because despite coaching in the NBA, he hasn’t put dudes in the NBA or won titles in college.

If he hires a good staff, some of that can be mitigated.  I do believe he’ll be enthusiastic about turning Indiana around but is an uphill battle

K doesn’t have to hit the road.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #841 on: March 28, 2021, 05:54:37 PM »
If Creighton fires McDermott it would need to turn its credentials as a Jesuit University.
Agreed. The guy is a very good coach. But...you know...the PC Police need tp get their licks in.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #842 on: March 28, 2021, 06:08:35 PM »
Agreed. The guy is a very good coach. But...you know...the PC Police need tp get their licks in.

I might be wrong but there doesn’t seem to be a groundswell for his firing.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #843 on: March 28, 2021, 06:11:51 PM »
Probably has already been reported too but per Jon Rothstein Mike Woodson tells me that he has landed in Indiana and is en route to Bloomington to meet with the team.

Woodson on being the head coach at Indiana: "It's a dream come true."


Straight Outta TC‘s playbook, huh?

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #844 on: March 28, 2021, 06:20:04 PM »
Who would have thought that Marquette was going to have the biggest splash hire a month ago? Crazy.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #845 on: March 28, 2021, 06:22:41 PM »
Lot of smoke about former Longhorn player and member of the 2003 Final 4 team and current Nets assistant Royal Ivey getting the job.  At the least, he’s interviewing for it
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #846 on: March 28, 2021, 07:25:33 PM »

Yep. Maybe Woodson/Matta will do OK, but I would still take Shaka any day of the week.

And that would of course be different if it was a reasonably healthy Matta as Head Coach. 5 Big Ten Regular Season Titles, 2 Final Fours, 2 Elite 8's, 2 Sweet 16's etc...It's an unknown how their unique set up will work out.

The game of winning the Coaching Carousel, takes 3-5 years to determine. Marquette hasn't won or lost anything yet.

If Shaka can win a Regular Season Big East Title, have zero losing league records, and, advance to the NCAA Tourney 2nd weekend or better 3 times, all within his first 5 years, that would be success similar to Buzz.

Shaka has never won a regular season league title in 12 seasons, over 3 leagues.

Shaka had 2 of 6 winning league records at Texas.

Shaka has advanced to the NCAA 2nd weekend 1 of 12 years. He had zero NCAA wins at Texas despite playing multiple double digit seeds.

Shaka made 8 of 12 NCAA's (He would have missed last year).  But in Power 5/Big East it was 3 of 6.

We'll know how he is doing in the next 3-5 years.

Shaka will get a chance. Hopefully, he can keep getting better and better and get results for MUBB.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #847 on: March 29, 2021, 12:26:42 AM »
Fun Fact In 20 Seasons as a head coach in D1 Basketball Saint John’s Head Coach Mike Anderson has not ever had what we had last year A losing season.

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #848 on: March 29, 2021, 07:27:29 PM »
Was it really necessary for Oklahoma State to give Boynton a SEVEN-year extension?

I can understand some kind of extension, but that’s an awfully long one for a coach who has never won squat without the No. 1 draft pick on his team.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #849 on: March 29, 2021, 07:29:29 PM »
Was it really necessary for Oklahoma State to give Boynton a SEVEN-year extension?

I can understand some kind of extension, but that’s an awfully long one for a coach who has never won squat without the No. 1 draft pick on his team.
Meh if he starts bombing Boone buys him out with pocket change
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