OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel

[Billy Hoyle]

Yet another school taking quick, decisive action to rid themselves of a lame duck coach while we sit on our hands.  So frustrating.

Wonder if Hoiberg would go back to ISU.

He’s not happy at Nebraska

[CountryRoads]

TJO to ISU, Wojo to UNLV?

Didn’t wojo flirt with UNLV in the past?

[Silent Verbal]

I kind of feel like the ship has sailed on Wojo getting hired away.

[MuggsyB]

TJO to ISU, Wojo to UNLV?

Didn’t wojo flirt with UNLV in the past?

And who would we get at MU?

[Litehouse]

And who would we get at MU?

Why don't we just trade UNLV directly?  TJ for Wojo and a player to be named later.

[GoldenWarrior11]

I don’t know what is more depressing: that MU is stuck with Wojo or that all these other schools (public/private, large, small) are apparently in that much stronger financial state with donors to make changes when their coaches underperform.

I guess other schools’ faculty isn’t as vocal or as upset as ours is.

Regardless, not a good perception either way...

[Galway Eagle]

I don’t know what is more depressing: that MU is stuck with Wojo or that all these other schools (public/private, large, small) are apparently in that much stronger financial state with donors to make changes when their coaches underperform.

I guess other schools’ faculty isn’t as vocal or as upset as ours is.

Regardless, not a good perception either way...

Financial state. That's hugely depressing

[Silent Verbal]

I want Marquette to win.  I'm not very certain Wojo can do that.  But he's MU's coach next year, so I see no reason not to support him. 

But that was a great deflection from your own hypocrisy!

You want Marquette to win, but you're "not very certain Wojo can do that."

There's a terrific scene in the movie Foxcatcher where Mark Ruffalo, playing Olympic wrestling champion Mark Schultz, is asked to step in front of a camera and praise billionaire John Du Pont (Steve Carrell) for his role as a coach and mentor, even though Du Pont was a bumbling idiot who knew nothing about wrestling.  And Ruffalo's character tries to do it, you can tell he has the words in his head, but he just can't bring himself to say them.  He physically cannot get the words to leave his lips.  It's a terrific piece of film acting, and is probably the reason Ruffalo got an Oscar nom for the role.

And that's sort of what you're like when it comes to Wojo.  If I sat you down in front of a camera and said, "rocky_warrior, say Wojo sucks and you think he should be fired," you couldn't do it.  You might be able to say something like, "I'm not certain Wojo will be able to win here."  But you wouldn't be able to say he sucks, and that you think he should be fired.

Well, I'm giving you the chance, rocky.  Say you think Wojo sucks, and that he should be fired.  Come on, just say it, it's not that hard.  Heck, you wouldn't even really be saying it out loud, you'd be typing it.  And none of us will judge you.  "Wojo sucks, and he should be fired."  Try it out and see how it feels.

[MU82]

We have a lot of folks here whining that other schools' donors are stepping up but ours aren't.

Well ... step up!

Sell your houses, sell your cars, sell your daughters ... whatever it takes to get money for Wojo's buyout!!!

[cheebs09]

I don’t know what is more depressing: that MU is stuck with Wojo or that all these other schools (public/private, large, small) are apparently in that much stronger financial state with donors to make changes when their coaches underperform.

I guess other schools’ faculty isn’t as vocal or as upset as ours is.

Regardless, not a good perception either way...

Our financial position is due to more than just Covid. Covid just accelerated and amplified it. I don’t know that these other schools are in as bad if shape.

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

Well millennials are starting to realize overpriced liberal arts degrees will barely be able to pay off the massive loan a large number of them will end up taking on.   

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

You want Marquette to win, but you're "not very certain Wojo can do that."

There's a terrific scene in the movie Foxcatcher where Mark Ruffalo, playing Olympic wrestling champion Mark Schultz, is asked to step in front of a camera and praise billionaire John Du Pont (Steve Carrell) for his role as a coach and mentor, even though Du Pont was a bumbling idiot who knew nothing about wrestling.  And Ruffalo's character tries to do it, you can tell he has the words in his head, but he just can't bring himself to say them.  He physically cannot get the words to leave his lips.  It's a terrific piece of film acting, and is probably the reason Ruffalo got an Oscar nom for the role.

And that's sort of what you're like when it comes to Wojo.  If I sat you down in front of a camera and said, "rocky_warrior, say Wojo sucks and you think he should be fired," you couldn't do it.  You might be able to say something like, "I'm not certain Wojo will be able to win here."  But you wouldn't be able to say he sucks, and that you think he should be fired.

Well, I'm giving you the chance, rocky.  Say you think Wojo sucks, and that he should be fired.  Come on, just say it, it's not that hard.  Heck, you wouldn't even really be saying it out loud, you'd be typing it.  And none of us will judge you.  "Wojo sucks, and he should be fired."  Try it out and see how it feels.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yet another school taking quick, decisive action to rid themselves of a lame duck coach while we sit on our hands.  So frustrating.

Yes. Iowa State was very quick and decisive. It only took 3 losing seasons in 4 years, two lower KenPom finishes than Wojo has ever had (and a 3rd lower than anything in the last 5 years), and a 2-22 season to get them to move. Extremely quick and decisive.

I want Wojo fired. I hope the university comes to the conclusion that it makes more financial sense to fire Wojo than keep him. But there's no world in which this was quick and decisive by Iowa St.

[Pakuni]

We have a lot of folks here whining that other schools' donors are stepping up but ours aren't.

Well ... step up!

Sell your houses, sell your cars, sell your daughters ... whatever it takes to get money for Wojo's buyout!!!

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Sun Times with DePaul targets.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/3/15/22327434/depaul-basketball-coaching-search-porter-moser

[rocky_warrior]

Well, I'm giving you the chance, rocky.  Say you think Wojo sucks, and that he should be fired.  Come on, just say it, it's not that hard.  Heck, you wouldn't even really be saying it out loud, you'd be typing it.  And none of us will judge you.  "Wojo sucks, and he should be fired."  Try it out and see how it feels.

So, you just want to pressure people to be lemmings and follow your train wreck of thoughts?  No thanks.

It doesn't matter whether I would fire Wojo or not.   Once they make me his boss I'll let you know my final decision, and the thinking that went into it.

I certainly understand why people aren't pleased with MU's performance the past three years.  I can also understand that the administration sees a clean program that would have made 2 tourneys and had a bad "covid" year in the past 3 years.  If they keep him I'll support MU. IF they dump him, I'll support MU. 

Sorry that it doesn't follow your lemming-like logic.

[GooooMarquette]

If they keep him I'll support MU. IF they dump him, I'll support MU. 

What a novel concept. I like it!

#pleasedon’tcallmealemming

[Billy Hoyle]

Haven’t seen this posted yet: BC hires Earl Grant from College of Charleston. Um, interesting, especially with BC alumni Mark Schmidt out there. Oh, and Wojo...

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/sources-boston-college-hires-charlestons-earl-grant-as-its-next-head-basketball-coach/

A middling low to mid major coach is what a search firm recommended.

[JWags85]

Haven’t seen this posted yet: BC hires Earl Grant from College of Charleston. Um, interesting, especially with BC alumni Mark Schmidt out there. Oh, and Wojo...

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/sources-boston-college-hires-charlestons-earl-grant-as-its-next-head-basketball-coach/

A middling low to mid major coach is what a search firm recommended.

Guess it shouldn’t be too surprising given the last time it was open, they turned to Jim Christian who was AWFUL at TCU, went to OU, had 2 decent but not great years (the second of which they weren’t even top 2 in their division in a lackluster MAC), and then somehow got a better job than before he failed miserably at a higher level before

[Billy Hoyle]

Guess it shouldn’t be too surprising given the last time it was open, they turned to Jim Christian who was AWFUL at TCU, went to OU, had 2 decent but not great years (the second of which they weren’t even top 2 in their division in a lackluster MAC), and then somehow got a better job than before he failed miserably at a higher level before

They had a great AD in Martin Jarmond who recently left for UCLA. Reading some BC reactions many pin the blame on long time BC President and former MU #2, Father Lehey.

BC just doesn’t care about hoops. They shouldn’t have fired Al Skinner.

[MU82]

If they keep him I'll support MU. IF they dump him, I'll support MU. 

A difficult concept for some.

[Pakuni]

Little Ricky hired by New Mexico.

[MU82]

Little Ricky hired by New Mexico.

Great!

That means the REAL Pitino is still available for Marquette!!!

[Pakuni]

Sorry, Hoosiers, Brad Stevens ain't walking through that door.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2021/03/16/indiana-basketball-archie-miller-brad-stevens-reacts-rumors/4719454001/

[nyg]

Dave Paulsen out at George Mason.  A-10 school and a good stepping stone job.