[Rosiak's Blog] A closer look at MU moving forward, and Jae Crowder

[ToddRosiakSays]

A closer look at MU moving forward, and Jae Crowder
               

While the commitment of Jae Crowder might have caught some off-guard with the Marquette Golden Eagles' apparent glaring need for more size on the interior, the feeling within the program is that the Howard College sophomore has both the game and frame to be able to step in and contribute immediately in the Big East next season.

At 6 feet 6 inches and 230 pounds, Crowder projects as someone who can play the 3, 4 and possibly even the 5 for MU. He also is, in many ways, a player similar to Lazar Hayward in that he’s big enough to bang around in the post and hold his own on the glass -- he’s averaging 9.5 per game -- yet still skilled enough to face up and have knocked down 26 three-pointers at a 37.1% clip to this point in the season.

While a big aircraft carrier would have been nice, those guys clearly don’t grow on trees, and Crowder was the next, best option. For those who question the addition of Crowder, ask yourself what you’d rather have: a guy like Crowder, who will more than likely come in and make an impact from the get-go and provide two productive years, or a big-man project like Chris Otule or Youssoupha Mbao who might or might not ever pan out years down the line?
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/83582022.html
               

[copious1218]

I'm concerned that Crowder thinks he'll be playing the 2 or the 3.

[Markusquette]

I'm concerned that Crowder thinks he'll be playing the 2 or the 3.

I think he would be content with a Lazar like role.  Playing more inside, hitting the glass, but also getting his fair share of open jumpers as long as he knocks them down.

[Lighthouse 84]

As always The Rose tells it like it is! he has framed it succintly. We are fortunate to have The Rose prowling the corridors in search of the true story. While not much to look at The Rose is so much better than Lori Nickles.

Sounds like you and TR arelikethis!

[chapman]

He must have not seen our roster to even think the 2 spot.  2 or 3 thinking will be more like 4 or 5 in reality.

[wyoMUfan]

the people that post on jsonline are 90% idiots.
Thank GOD we have MUSCOOP!

[The Pickle]

"I've said it time and time again:  the impact big men who are out there wind up in two places:  North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, and Texas."  So do they wind up in 2 places or maybe 4?

[mu89]

"I've said it time and time again:  the impact big men who are out there wind up in two places:  North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, and Texas."  So do they wind up in 2 places or maybe 4?

how clever. I think he meant big time programs then the nba. that could count as 2.

[MU111]

the people that post on jsonline are 90% idiots.
Thank GOD we have MUSCOOP!

I have to say that it does get very frustrating reading a lot of the stuff that gets posted on JSOnline blogs.  I try to avoid reading the comments as much as possible now but it's almost like a train wreck-- you can't help but stop and stare.

[PE8983]

Have you seen the freshman big man from Marshall?  Did you watch the MU-Xavier game?
This myth that all big men end up at NC, Duke, etc... is just crap.

[gumbyandpokey]

Have you seen the freshman big man from Marshall?  Did you watch the MU-Xavier game?
This myth that all big men end up at NC, Duke, etc... is just crap.

Nobody is asking for the best big men in the country.  Just a serviceable guy would be fine.  Play good defense, get key rebounds, etc.  But a 6'6 guy who wants to play the 2...you have got to be kidding.

[esotericmindguy]

I'm concerned that Crowder thinks he'll be playing the 2 or the 3.

If he expects to play the 2/3 then he won't see the floor.  Blue, DJO, Buycks, Jones, Newbill will all fill that role.  I think he knows where he'll fit, and Haywards role this year was probably what closed the deal.

[GOMU1104]

Have you seen the freshman big man from Marshall?  Did you watch the MU-Xavier game?
This myth that all big men end up at NC, Duke, etc... is just crap.

Todd is talking about the elite big men.

Did you know that Xavier's Jason Love was the 33rd ranked C in the 2006 class? He was behind guys like Bryce Webster and JP Gavinski, and only a couple spots ahead of Mitchell Carter.

Did you know Love played less than 5 mpg as a FR?

He developed over his 4 years...exactly the type of big men that most schools have to pursue. Hopefully O'tule and Mbao have this kind of upside.

[NavinRJohnson]

For those who question the addition of Crowder, ask yourself what you’d rather have: a guy like Crowder, who will more than likely come in and make an impact from the get-go and provide two productive years, or a big-man project like Chris Otule or Youssoupha Mbao who might or might not ever pan out years down the line?

Apparently, Todd doesn't read this board. If he did, clearly he would realize that there is a 3rd option which is a 6-11, 260 lb, Big East ready big man. For as long as Rosiak has been doing this, I would think he would know that those guys are just sitting out there this time of year, waiting for scholarship offers.

[PE8983]

Yeah, and when Love was a freshman, they had other big men that were playing the majority of the minutes.

[GOMU1104]

For those who question the addition of Crowder, ask yourself what you’d rather have: a guy like Crowder, who will more than likely come in and make an impact from the get-go and provide two productive years, or a big-man project like Chris Otule or Youssoupha Mbao who might or might not ever pan out years down the line?

Apparently, Todd doesn't read this board. If he did, clearly he would realize that there is a 3rd option which is a 6-11, 260 lb, Big East ready big man. For as long as Rosiak has been doing this, I would think he would know that those guys are just sitting out there this time of year, waiting for scholarship offers.

Teal?

[NavinRJohnson]

Teal?

I don't believe in using teal, but if you're asking the question, you get it.

[GOMU1104]

I don't believe in using teal, but if you're asking the question, you get it.

Never know with some of the yahoos in here.

[Litehouse]

For those who question the addition of Crowder, ask yourself what you’d rather have: a guy like Crowder, who will more than likely come in and make an impact from the get-go and provide two productive years, or a big-man project like Chris Otule or Youssoupha Mbao who might or might not ever pan out years down the line?

This comment is a classic false dilemma fallacy, since those aren't the only two choices.  Crowder will contribute next year and we need him, that's great.  The real question is who would you rather have sitting on the bench next year, a 6th guard or a big-man project, neither of whom will see much playing time next year.  Personally, I'd rather take my chances with the project.

[GOMU1104]

This comment is a classic false dilemma fallacy, since those aren't the only two choices.  Crowder will contribute next year and we need him, that's great.  The real question is who would you rather have sitting on the bench next year, a 6th guard or a big-man project, neither of whom will see much playing time next year. Personally, I'd rather take my chances with the project.

So you would like to have 3 projects on your roster?

[kmwtrucks]

I think the reason is when you look at the guys who are going to play the most minutes next year, and I'm kind of guessing.  our 3 tallest player's would be in bottom half.  With Junior, DJO, Dwight, Blue, Butler, Jae would be my guess for the Top 6 in minutes.  So having 2 (smith and DJ) guards to spell those 4 is maybe what he is thinking.  I have no problem running 3 guards. The hard part is when they are 5-7 and 5-10.  6-1, 6-3, 6-4 is much better for Def and rebounding.

[AZWarrior]

So you would like to have 3 projects on your roster?

Your odds of having one develop into a stud big man increase by 50% with 3 vs. 2.

[Hards Alumni]

This comment is a classic false dilemma fallacy, since those aren't the only two choices.  Crowder will contribute next year and we need him, that's great.  The real question is who would you rather have sitting on the bench next year, a 6th guard or a big-man project, neither of whom will see much playing time next year.  Personally, I'd rather take my chances with the project.

You are stupid if you want 5 freshman next year.  Just stupid.

Keep the classes balanced.

[GOMU1104]

Your odds of having one develop into a stud big man increase by 50% with 3 vs. 2.

Why doesnt Buzz just bring in 6 projects then?

[AZWarrior]

Because you need a sufficient quantity of known good guards and wings.   

[Benny B]

Your odds of having one develop into a stud big man increase by 50% with 3 vs. 2.

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that.

[Litehouse]

You are stupid if you want 5 freshman next year.  Just stupid.

Keep the classes balanced.

I guess I'm not sure what you're getting at since our 6th guard will be a freshman also.  You quoted me, but I'm saying this has nothing to do with Crowder.

[Litehouse]

So you would like to have 3 projects on your roster?

Yes.  We could potentially red-shirt him next year and he'd be 2 years behind Mbao.  If Otule comes back this year, I would feel even more strongly about it, since we would have to replace Otule a year earlier.

[Pakuni]

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that.

His odds of living are 50-50, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.

[VegasWarrior77]

His odds of living are 50-50, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.

"93% of putts that are short of the hole don't go in." - Yogi Berra

[Lighthouse 84]

They've done studies. 60% of the time, it works every time.

[AZWarrior]

And predictions are hard, especially about the future.