Issues between Buzz and Tracy Webster?

[MU FAN 2002]

Does anyone know what was going on between Buzz and Tracy Webster?  It seemed that Buzz said something in the middle of the second half.  Then during the rest of the game Webster kept looking over at Buzz. 

[tower912]

Whatever it was, it made DePaul start playing.    Assuming your timeline is accurate. 

[4everwarriors]

Buzz probably told Webster he was fat and should start running and dieting.

[cheebs09]

Noticed that too. I didn't see a player or ref in the area, so I figured he must have been mad at Webster. I'm pretty sure Buzz glared at him at one point near the end of the game after a foul or timeout he took. During the handshake line Webster went straight to the back and was shuffling his players in front of him. Maybe its just something he does at the end of the game, but I thought that was weird after seeing Buzz yelling earlier on.

[MU B2002]

i think he saw his assistant wipe a nose nugget under one of chairs on the depaul bench.  Buzz keeps a clean house and thats not how he rolls in the BC.

[MR.HAYWARD]

are you referring to tom kleinscmidt picking his nose and eating it on national televisosn against us last year?

[NersEllenson]

I noticed at one point in the game (during an out of bounds play as I recall) it seemed Buzz called out some type of play..and Webster was looking down at him..then shouted some "counter play or instruction," then Buzz said something else, and Webster something else.  Almost something you see in football game with the QB audibling, and defense checking to something else several times.  Not sure if that's what the deal was or not?

[madtownwarrior]

i think he saw his assistant wipe a nose nugget under one of chairs on the depaul bench.  Buzz keeps a clean house and thats not how he rolls in the BC.

I think Buzz took offense to Kleinschmidt shouting out to his players to "pick" and roll...

[MU B2002]

i was referring to that incident, but couldnt remember his name.

[MU FAN 2002]

I also saw in the first half I think Jimmy was shooting in the corner by DePaul's bench and Webster was clapping at him, like to try and disrupt his shot. It seemed like Webster was trying to get back at Buzz for something with the end of game activity.

[New Era Warriors]

Buzz said in the interview that he thought Tracy said something to one of the MU players so Buzz looked over at him and Tracy yelled back "What Buzz?!"

[WxWarrior]

I also saw in the first half I think Jimmy was shooting in the corner by DePaul's bench and Webster was clapping at him, like to try and disrupt his shot. It seemed like Webster was trying to get back at Buzz for something with the end of game activity.

I saw this too.  It was Jimmy spotting up from the corner (about the only place he takes a three) and there's Tracy clapping and yelling right behind him.  It's possible he was trying to get one of his player's attention, but from where I was sitting this seems unlikely.  Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen another coach do this and it reeked of poor sportsmanship. 

Didn't he play for Wisco? 

[77ncaachamps]

Didn't he play for Wisco? 

Yup. And he was A LOT thinner back then.

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

Did Dick Vitale write that description?

[Ari Gold]

maybe this explains why the last minute of the game took forever.
fouling down 11 with 14 seconds left and then calling a time out... unbelievable

[GGGG]

Hey, honestly that is pretty much what De Paul needs right now.  They have been playing a lot better under Webster - they just don't have the horses.  He's a good recruiter...knows Chicago...if I were them, I would look seriously at keeping this guy.

[StillAWarrior]

Did Dick Vitale write that description?

Seeing as how it's signed "Dick Vitale" I'm going to go with yes.

[Warrior1969]

Why do you say Webster is a good recruiter?  Who has he recruited?

[MU B2002]

Yup. And he was A LOT thinner back then.

great photos, a travel and a carry. 

[TJ]

maybe this explains why the last minute of the game took forever.
fouling down 11 with 14 seconds left and then calling a time out... unbelievable

That was just icing on the 4 timeouts in the last 3 minutes cake.  It was a brutally slow end last night.

[mu_hilltopper]

From Rosiak:

Was there a verbal altercation between you and Tracy Webster: "I thought he was hollering at one of our guys and so I looked at him, and he said, 'What are you looking at, Buzz?' And I said, 'What?' Tracy worked for Billy (Gillispie) at Kentucky; I've known Tracy. I thought he was hollering at one of our guys, and I wasn't looking on the floor. So when I looked at him and he went, 'What, Buzz?' I went, 'What?' He didn't understand. I thought he was saying something to our guys. I never asked our guys. I was just kind of caught off-guard."

[muarmy81]

Why do you say Webster is a good recruiter?  Who has he recruited?

He apparently has connections to the Chicago HS and AAU coaches. (their names escape me now)  I think it was the reason he got hired in the first place.

[GGGG]

He apparently has connections to the Chicago HS and AAU coaches. (their names escape me now)  I think it was the reason he got hired in the first place.

Yes, but honestly I think it is a fair question (directed to me).  I thought he had served under Self at Illinois, but he was actually under Weber.

[bma725]

The notion that Tracy Webster is a good recruiter is one of the biggest myths out there.  The reality is he doesn't even come close to deserving the credit he gets from most people and for the most part he's a disappointing recruiter, not a good one.

He had one job at Illinois, get them the top young talent before the other schools around the country could get them, and he failed at it.  He couldn't make in roads in CPS despite being from the area, just generally pissed off the important people in the recruiting scene.  Illinois recruiting of Chicago and the state as a whole didn't get good until Webster was gone and replaced by Jerrance Howard.

Webster then went to went to Kentucky, where he was supposed to be able to lure the kids that he been trying to recruit to Illinois to come play for BCG.  But again, he couldn't do it.  At DePaul under Wainwright, he wasn't even the main guy for recruiting Chicago, that went to Billy Garrett.

Essentially he's earned this reputation for being a great recruiter on what people expect him to be able to do, rather than what he's actually done.  Because what he's done doesn't indicate any great ability.

[RJax55]

bma - I thought Webster did play a big role in getting Richmond from Waukegan to committ to the Illini. IIRC, he committed to them a long time ago, he's freshman year, and I thought that was due in large-part by his and his family's relationship with Webster.

BTW - There's no question that DePaul is playing better basketball under Webster than they did under Wainwright. Whether that speaks to Tracy's abilities or further proof of Wainwright's ineptitude, is anyones guess.