Seashells and Balloons

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My take was to bring it down safely, something they finally did. Better late than never.

And how can my take be “Tucker inspired” when I never heard him comment on the situation? You’re a liar and a despicable human being.

It's a good thing I don't give a sh*t about your opinion on pretty much anything.

And you know deep down in your heart that I'm not lying. 

[Uncle Rico]

Coach Buses have average lengths of 39'4” (12 m), widths of 8'4” (2.55 m), heights of 12'6” (3.81 m), and have a capacity of 44-49 (+1) seats.

The shuttle measures 122.2 feet long, 56.67 feet high, with wingspan of 78.06 feet.

The balloon was reported to be the size of 3 busses. So both are approximately the same size with shuttle being slightly larger.

Fantastic

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

What a bogus excuse. I am sure it could have been shot down "safely" well before it reached the Atlantic. When the Columbia Space Shuttle disintegrated on re-entry over Texas it did not cause any deaths or major property damage on the ground that I recall. There is probably another reason why they did not shoot it down, but I am skeptical of the safe location reason.

The shuttle was three times higher up and traveling significantly faster, scattering debris over a much larger area. Really bad comparison.

[Lennys Tap]

It's a good thing I don't give a sh*t about your opinion on pretty much anything.

LOL. That’s why you stalk me.

[forgetful]

Coach Buses have average lengths of 39'4” (12 m), widths of 8'4” (2.55 m), heights of 12'6” (3.81 m), and have a capacity of 44-49 (+1) seats.

The shuttle measures 122.2 feet long, 56.67 feet high, with wingspan of 78.06 feet.

The balloon was reported to be the size of 3 busses. So both are approximately the same size with shuttle being slightly larger.

You do realize that the shuttle burned up as it re-entered the atmosphere, which was expected to render it harmless to those on the ground.

The balloon and all its equipment was not going to re-enter the atmosphere. There would have been no "burning up," and the debris would have landed intact on the ground potentially harming individuals or property. Not to mention, we do not fully know what type of equipment or related hazards were on board that could have harmed individuals on the ground.

The shuttle is one of the worst analogies I can conceive of.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

LOL. That’s why you stalk me.

Someone doesn’t understand the definition of words again!!!!!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

LOL. That’s why you stalk me.

Sultan is just trying to be friends with you.

But his personality disorders keep him from making friends, so he tries harder.

Rinse, repeat.

[wadesworld]

What’s ironic is one of the meat eating lover boys literally did online stalk people from MUScoop. And any time it’s brought up…crickets.

[#UnleashSean]

What a bogus excuse. I am sure it could have been shot down "safely" well before it reached the Atlantic. When the Columbia Space Shuttle disintegrated on re-entry over Texas it did not cause any deaths or major property damage on the ground that I recall. There is probably another reason why they did not shoot it down, but I am skeptical of the safe location reason.

Shuttle is a terrible analogy. I'll leave that as is.

As for doubting the action of "safety" I will also disagree. The US military determined (probably very easily) the non threat level of the balloon, determined it couldn't gain any tactical advantage already gathered by a satellite,  and lastly determined the threat was so minor l, and didn't fly over any areas that would be sensitive relative to the balloon (they would have shot it down the moment any national security threat arised)

They concluded that they could wait until it was absolutely sure no danger to any American or resident and then shot it down instantly.

No doubt they had security flying with it the entire time.

[JWags85]

What’s ironic is one of the meat eating lover boys literally did online stalk people from MUScoop. And any time it’s brought up…crickets.

To be fair, as insane and unhinged as that was, I’m not sure what more there is to say or be brought up about it? Especially given then perpetrator no longer posts here

[wadesworld]

To be fair, as insane and unhinged as that was, I’m not sure what more there is to say or be brought up about it? Especially given then perpetrator no longer posts here

Not sure. I was told I “played the victim” earlier this week. So I just asked how Keefe was doing and asked that the person let him know we miss him around here. That went ignored.

[Mutaman]

So I just asked how Keefe was doing and asked that the person let him know we miss him around here.

Whats this "we", masked man?

[Goose]

Wades

I have no idea who said you played the victim and why it was even being discussed. I think Wags was spot on in his post, I have no idea what type of response you want when bringing that back up.

But, for one last time, Keefe is doing extremely well. Happy, healthy and enjoying his family. Again, I do not know who the question was asked to about Keefe, but I answered anyway.

[wadesworld]

Wades

I have no idea who said you played the victim and why it was even being discussed. I think Wags was spot on in his post, I have no idea what type of response you want when bringing that back up.

But, for one last time, Keefe is doing extremely well. Happy, healthy and enjoying his family. Again, I do not know who the question was asked to about Keefe, but I answered anyway.

Great. Glad to hear he’s doing well. If you had given me an answer on it before, sorry I missed it.

Tell him hello for me.

[Goose]

Wades

No question was directed to me and I felt no need to address the topic. Other than rehashing that you were a victim several years ago, I see no sense in getting into a discussion with you. We get it, you are pissed and rightfully so, what else do you want?

You seem to have a fixation with the MS group and it is unhealthy. Truthfully, I think you had a right to be angry and should have moved on. My gut tells me that you are a forgiving person as a rule, IMO, that is a good rule to live by.

[rocket surgeon]

I trusted the process. That perhaps the administration and the military know more than I do about this. Perhaps they have even dealt with this issue before.

Lo and behold...

Did you learn your lesson that not everything requires a Tucker-inspired take? That maybe jumping to conclusions based on limited data is unwise?

I'm guessing the answer will prove to be "no."

   do you "trust the process" with everything you hear or only if your comrade news sources say it's so?  well they were telling you that multiple balloons flew during the previous admin too??  so the media who hated the previous admin with a vengeance just kinda let those go?  wouldn't that have been real proof of "russian infiltration" and how they "stole the election"?  don't get me started with dr fettucine again

     you are either being disingenuous, naive, or lying but probably all of the above.  i guess now tucker carlson has been discredited because ya'll say so, but that also tells me you guys are afraid of what he has to offer because there just might be an element of truth.   
   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

   do you "trust the process" with everything you hear or only if your comrade news sources say it's so?  well they were telling you that multiple balloons flew during the previous admin too??  so the media who hated the previous admin with a vengeance just kinda let those go?  wouldn't that have been real proof of "russian infiltration" and how they "stole the election"?  don't get me started with dr fettucine again

     you are either being disingenuous, naive, or lying but probably all of the above.  i guess now tucker carlson has been discredited because ya'll say so, but that also tells me you guys are afraid of what he has to offer because there just might be an element of truth.   
 

I don't really know what you are attempting to say.  Putting coherent thoughts together isn't really your strong suit.  But I will attempt to address your points.

1. I trust that our military leaders knew about this balloon long before we did. I believe that they had a much better handle on how to manage this situation than the typical Scooper or anyone in the news media. This isn't a partisan take.

2. I believe US spy officials who say this has happened before. It wasn't reported by the media because they didn't know about it.  Apparently Trump didn't know about it either. That could mean that the agency didn't think they were a big deal OR because they decided not to tell him. The latter is a problem.

3.  These balloons have nothing to do with Russia or any election. Strange way to throw that in there.

4.  Fauci has been right WAY more than you have so perhaps that's not the slam you think it is.

[wadesworld]

Wades

No question was directed to me and I felt no need to address the topic. Other than rehashing that you were a victim several years ago, I see no sense in getting into a discussion with you. We get it, you are pissed and rightfully so, what else do you want?

You seem to have a fixation with the MS group and it is unhealthy. Truthfully, I think you had a right to be angry and should have moved on. My gut tells me that you are a forgiving person as a rule, IMO, that is a good rule to live by.

Fair enough. Good advice. Thank you. If you talk to Keefe again please pass along my forgiveness. I’d do it myself but he has gone MIA since then and I have no interest in trying to figure out who he is and get his personal contact information. Had he reached out to apologize, something I think most true men like him typically do when the mess up, I would’ve been happy to tell him myself. I’d think it would’ve been easy enough for him to find a way to contact me, given he found my name, place of employment, job title, and the email addresses of all 3 HR employees at the company. Think he probably could’ve found my email to reach out to me too. So sorry to ask you to tell him he’s forgiven but I’ll move on now that I’ve forgiven him.

[rocket surgeon]

I don't really know what you are attempting to say.  Putting coherent thoughts together isn't really your strong suit.  But I will attempt to address your points.

1. I trust that our military leaders knew about this balloon long before we did. I believe that they had a much better handle on how to manage this situation than the typical Scooper or anyone in the news media. This isn't a partisan take.

2. I believe US spy officials who say this has happened before. It wasn't reported by the media because they didn't know about it.  Apparently Trump didn't know about it either. That could mean that the agency didn't think they were a big deal OR because they decided not to tell him. The latter is a problem.

3.  These balloons have nothing to do with Russia or any election. Strange way to throw that in there.

4.  Fauci has been right WAY more than you have so perhaps that's not the slam you think it is.

thank you for taking the time out of your busy monday morning schedule

   i know i know, the i can't understand what you're trying to say blah blah...

that's what's scary-our military knew about this long before we did???  so how long have they been letting these things just stroll along capturing whatever it is they want?  many here seem to think, well satellites can do the same...really?  the chinese "experts" seem to think differently.

  once again, if you are believing everything "they" are telling you, you are being...simple minded

  turn it around-you seem so trusting of your media.  if this happened during trump era, we all would still be hearing about it, NOT just now.  i'm sick of the retort-"they all do it"

  yeah, fettucine was only wrong about origin of virus, masks and gain of function experiments being funded by us, but otherwise he was all good?

  the excuses being made about this balloon need further scrutiny for sure.  especially given the fact that we will be finding out soon how much money the "big guy" got from his side binesses-let's start with the biden-penn center, hey, wasn't he a 'professor" there?  i think he took the amtrack there so many times it pushed him over the million mile club and free drinks in the lounge car

[tower912]

The military and intelligence gathering agencies are supposed to know about stuff lime this before the media and the public.  That is their job. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You don't think the military knew about this before we did? And you're calling me simple minded and naive? The military, intelligence infrastructure, etc. know about all sorts of stuff than you and I don't know about. And that's fine.  That happens regardless of who the president is.

And I have no idea why you keep bringing up "the media." I don't sit and consume media 24/7 like some people do.

  the excuses being made about this balloon need further scrutiny for sure.  especially given the fact that we will be finding out soon how much money the "big guy" got from his side binesses-let's start with the biden-penn center, hey, wasn't he a 'professor" there?  i think he took the amtrack there so many times it pushed him over the million mile club and free drinks in the lounge car

You do realize that this type of nonsense is why no one here takes you seriously right?  Just nonsense upon nonsense.

[muwarrior69]

The shuttle was three times higher up and traveling significantly faster, scattering debris over a much larger area. Really bad comparison.

...but not significantly smaller as stated by Pakuni. They shot the balloon down about 7 miles off the coast within viewing distance of residences and tourists on Myrtle Beach. I am sure there are plenty of spots in Montana with a 7 mile radius where there are no people or buildings.

https://time.com/6253086/china-spy-balloon-shot-down-myrtle-beach-onlookers/

[withoutbias]

I think it's important to see information from both sides of the spectrum.  It's good to see I can just come to MUScoop and get the talking points from Fox News regurgitated here without actually having to watch it.

[MU82]

thank you for taking the time out of your busy monday morning schedule

   i know i know, the i can't understand what you're trying to say blah blah...

that's what's scary-our military knew about this long before we did???  so how long have they been letting these things just stroll along capturing whatever it is they want?  many here seem to think, well satellites can do the same...really?  the chinese "experts" seem to think differently.

  once again, if you are believing everything "they" are telling you, you are being...simple minded

  turn it around-you seem so trusting of your media.  if this happened during trump era, we all would still be hearing about it, NOT just now.  i'm sick of the retort-"they all do it"

  yeah, fettucine was only wrong about origin of virus, masks and gain of function experiments being funded by us, but otherwise he was all good?

  the excuses being made about this balloon need further scrutiny for sure.  especially given the fact that we will be finding out soon how much money the "big guy" got from his side binesses-let's start with the biden-penn center, hey, wasn't he a 'professor" there?  i think he took the amtrack there so many times it pushed him over the million mile club and free drinks in the lounge car

Gents - if you want to argue about playing a man vs zone defense against a Chinese balloon, have at it.  If you want to piss and moan about politics, I'll ban you.  Have at it.

[Uncle Rico]

thank you for taking the time out of your busy monday morning schedule

   i know i know, the i can't understand what you're trying to say blah blah...

that's what's scary-our military knew about this long before we did???  so how long have they been letting these things just stroll along capturing whatever it is they want?  many here seem to think, well satellites can do the same...really?  the chinese "experts" seem to think differently.

  once again, if you are believing everything "they" are telling you, you are being...simple minded

  turn it around-you seem so trusting of your media.  if this happened during trump era, we all would still be hearing about it, NOT just now.  i'm sick of the retort-"they all do it"

  yeah, fettucine was only wrong about origin of virus, masks and gain of function experiments being funded by us, but otherwise he was all good?

  the excuses being made about this balloon need further scrutiny for sure.  especially given the fact that we will be finding out soon how much money the "big guy" got from his side binesses-let's start with the biden-penn center, hey, wasn't he a 'professor" there?  i think he took the amtrack there so many times it pushed him over the million mile club and free drinks in the lounge car

/swoons

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